Posted on 09/12/2012 9:01:29 PM PDT by DallasBiff
IMO, FDR would have joined Churchill, immediately in fighting Hitler.
In the book titled “A Man Called Enigma”, FDR wanted in on WWII before Congress did. Notice that, when Japan attacked Pearl Harbor, FDR declared war on Germany, NOT Japan.
And, to get American manufacturers ready for the war, FDR started Lend-Lease.
Oh, yeah, FDR knew it was just a matter of time.
I don’t have many issues with FDR regarding his handling of the war, except for his sellout of the Poles.
It was naive to think that Hitler didn’t have designs on the one country that after the annihilation of European Jews, would have contained the majority of the remaining Jews on the planet, why go through all of the trouble of getting rid of European Jews, if he ultimately didn’t intend on taking the rest of the Jews on US soil?
The point is that some savage tribes, those that have had to learn to exist alongside other savage tribes, friend and foe, have had to learn to observe some minimum diplomatic protocol, such as not killing and eating representatives of other tribes. However, the Muslim tribe, a billion member tribe at that, feeling its strength and observing its Koranic theology, does not appear to recognize or observe any inter-tribe rules, perhaps because it hasn’t had to, has it!
Sure, why not. He made the pact with Stalin to buy time. Of course it gave Stalin time to consolidate his forces.
Churchill would have never gone for it. He knew the evil that was in play.
And as an American president, FDR, did nothing about krystallnacht in 1938, another American president, Obama, is doing the same.
You are correct.
Without the benefit of hindsight, what would you have had FDR do regarding Germany after Krystallnacht?
Mind you, at that time, while people were generally appalled by Germany’s treatment of Jews, it wasn’t so far out of line with many other parts of Europe, anti-semitism was pretty rampant all across the continent, even outside of Nazi Germany.
Of course with the war, it got much, much worse.
It was Premier Neville Chamberlain's government that declared war on Nazi Germany. Churchill came to power in the spring of 1940.
He could have declared war, but it still would have taken several years till we would have been battle ready.
Of course, on the other hand, it certainly would have given Hitler pause. And frankly, at least at that point, Hitler wasn’t insane enough to think of provoking the US.
You are correct, and I am sorry, about the historical mistake.
But the question remains, what would FDR have done if the American embassy in Berlin had been breached in 1939, by nazi brownshirt, ss, thugs.
That's me. I will look that book up. thanks.
He rounded up hundreds of thousands of Germans AND Japaneses Americans and put them in Internment camps,
Then he firebombed a civilian city- Dresden.
He was a war criminal.
Depriving Americans of their liberty in a time of war was a crime against the Constitution. Firebombing Dresden was waging war on a nation who had declared war on us. I’m sick and tired of people moaning about what happened to Dresden. You want war crimes? The Luftwaffe bombing Warsaw, Rotterdam and Coventry were war crimes. As for Dresden- tough sh!t.
In The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, I think it’s made clear that even as late as 1939 Hitler didn’t think very much of FDR or American strength and wouldn’t have cared enough to attack our embassy. He didn’t think we’d enter the war and if we did wouldn’t make much of a difference.
FDR would have blamed BUSH, too!
Prescott Bush, that is.
War was declared against Japan by act of congress on December 8, 1941 and declared on Germany and Italy on December 11, 1941, only after Germany declared war on us. Isolationism and anti Semitic prejudices were strong in the USA and would have made any response against Krystallnacht politically impossible and FDR was always a politician. Many Southern Democrats were intensely racist and anti Semitic. Sam Rayburn and Theodore Bilbo were architects of the new deal.
According to Joe Biden, “When the Nazis breached the US Embassy, Franklin D. Roosevelt got on the television and didn’t just talk about the, you know, the Nazi thugs. He said, ‘Look, here’s what happened.’”
a little history for you.
Japanese of all types (Nisei, Ishi, etc, citizens, resident aliens, pro-Tojo) and interned, about 120,000. Many were not bothered at all to our citizens credit.
Germans (aliens), German-Americans, Bundists, etc. rounded up, in US, between 5-8,000 plus several thousand in Latin America.
NOT HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS.
Six US fliers bailed out over Germany and were brutally killed by German civilians (mainly rural farmers using pitchforks).
In retaliation, a US bomber squadron, who was unable to hit their primary target, wiped a German fishing village off the face of the earth. Big fucking deal.
My family was murdered in Lvov, Belzec and Auschwitz.
I’m just sorry we didn’t have more nukes to use on the 2 million Japanese troops who committed genocide against our Chinese allies, American, British, Commonwealth troops, and the one million Philippino civilians they wantonly killed.
Bataan Death March. Unit 731.
The enemy deserved everything they got, which was not enough.
No apologies except for not being able to kill several more million of these Axis bastards.
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