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Russians Say Anti-U.S. Attack in Libya Vindicates Their Position
New York Times ^ | Sep 12 2012 | ELLEN BARRY

Posted on 09/12/2012 10:31:16 PM PDT by WilliamIII

MOSCOW — Upon learning of the violent death of the United States ambassador to Libya on Wednesday, many Russians responded with variations on “I told you so.”

Russia has long argued that the West should not support popular uprisings against dictatorships in the Middle East lest Islamic fundamentalism take hold. Vladimir V. Putin, then serving as prime minister, was especially enraged last fall after an angry crowd killed his ally, Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi, an event he later condemned as a “repulsive, disgusting” scene.

Since then, Russia has blocked Western initiatives to force Syria’s president, Bashar al-Assad, from power despite a bloody crackdown on the opposition. Russians’ responses to the storming of the American Consulate in Benghazi underlined the deep policy divide. A prime-time news report pointedly juxtaposed images of Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens’s death with Colonel Qaddafi’s, pointing at their similarities, then cut to footage of Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton reacting to the Libyan leader’s death with a cursory “wow.”

Deputy Foreign Minister Mikhail Margelov said that passions had been stoked by the uprisings and that they “splash out in the form of terrorist acts or massacres of nonbelievers or an attack on embassies and consulates.”

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: obama

1 posted on 09/12/2012 10:31:19 PM PDT by WilliamIII
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To: WilliamIII

Good argument. One that romney should be making. Putin = Romney on middle east policy? Perhaps


2 posted on 09/12/2012 10:37:25 PM PDT by Ravi
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To: WilliamIII

I believe most of the people on this forum would agree with the Russians on this one.


3 posted on 09/12/2012 10:38:14 PM PDT by BBell (And Now for Something Completely Different)
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To: BBell

I would trade The Disaster for Putin any day.


4 posted on 09/12/2012 10:41:07 PM PDT by arrogantsob (The Disaster MUST Go. Sarah herself supports Romney.)
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To: BBell

Russians are many things, stupid isn’t one of them, they learned from Afghanistan.


5 posted on 09/12/2012 10:41:17 PM PDT by dfwgator (I'm voting for Ryan and that other guy.)
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To: dfwgator
Russians are many things, stupid isn’t one of them, they learned from Afghanistan.

They also learned from Serbia/Kosovo, George Soros, Algeria, Egypt, Libya, and Syria.

And frighteningly, the Russians never forget.

6 posted on 09/12/2012 10:57:58 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: WilliamIII

Boy do I hate it when I have to agree with a despot like Putin.


7 posted on 09/12/2012 10:58:39 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: WilliamIII

“Russia has long argued that the West should not support popular uprisings against dictatorships in the Middle East lest Islamic fundamentalism take hold.”

Good advice sometimes comes from the most unexpected sources.


8 posted on 09/12/2012 11:04:18 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: WilliamIII

It would be wise to remember what the Russians did when Lebanese Muslim terrorists kidnapped a Russian diplomat in Lebanon, adding him to the dozen or so western diplomats that had already been kidnapped and held for years.


9 posted on 09/12/2012 11:04:49 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: WilliamIII
Let's see.

Democracy and Freedom for Muslim countries equals a Jihadist superstate that will most likely lead to the destruction of US cities.

Hmmm. The Arab Spring didn't turn out as intended, did it?


10 posted on 09/12/2012 11:09:19 PM PDT by garjog (We do not want another four more years of the last four years.)
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To: WilliamIII

If the gutless Repubs would have defunded barry’s unconstitutional war...and yeah, the Russians are right about all of it, sad to say. They know a thing Orr two about terrorism and despots.


11 posted on 09/12/2012 11:14:33 PM PDT by Eagles6 (DNC 2012 Convention: Celebrating infanticide and sodomy. Denying God.What could possibly go wrong?)
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To: garjog

And we knew it would not.


12 posted on 09/12/2012 11:15:50 PM PDT by MarMema (freedom for Amir)
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To: WilliamIII

Russia learned about radical “freedom fighters” from Chechnya.


13 posted on 09/12/2012 11:16:55 PM PDT by MarMema (freedom for Amir)
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To: Ravi

“Russia is a geopolitical adversary, meaning that almost everything we try to do globally they try and oppose...So we try and put pressure on Iran, they fought against crippling sanctions. We tried to get tough language at the U.N. and action against the brutality of [President Bashar] Assad in Syrian, they instead send attack helicopters to Syria. I mean, Russia has been opposing us in political circles for some time.” -Mitt Romney, September 10, 2012

I don’t think Romney and Putin would necessarily agree, although Mitt is known to change his mind.


14 posted on 09/12/2012 11:26:26 PM PDT by conservativefreak
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To: WilliamIII

I just have a feeling there’s a little more than “I told you so” on Putin’s part. Holding coats, or using proxies, I wouldn’t be surprised to find his fingerprints on it.


15 posted on 09/13/2012 1:10:54 AM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: WilliamIII

The Russkies are right.

But their logic falls apart if what Obama really wants is what they fear - that Islamic fundamentalism take control of countries in the wake of militant muslim uprisings.

And that is exactly what his goal is.


16 posted on 09/13/2012 1:51:56 AM PDT by Iron Munro ("In any compromise between good and evil, it is only evil that can profit." - Ayn Rand)
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To: WilliamIII

Sure casts an ironic light upon December 1979.

What IS it about weak dimowhit “presidents” in the Ovular Orifice and Islamic revolutions? Hmmm.


17 posted on 09/13/2012 2:05:06 AM PDT by wm25burke
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To: dfwgator
Russians are many things, stupid isn’t one of them, they learned from Afghanistan.



That is exactly what I was thinking...
18 posted on 09/13/2012 2:16:04 AM PDT by Bikkuri (Hope for Conservative push in the next 2-4 years..........)
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To: dfwgator

And I bet they’re not paying $4 a gallon for gasoline, either.


19 posted on 09/13/2012 3:27:18 AM PDT by gotribe (WTF?)
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To: BBell

Well, it didn’t have to be like this.

We should never had taken the position we did in the first place. It isn’t so much that the Russians are right as it is that we are so, so wrong!

And it’s not just Obama. Who in the Republican party has been the biggest advocate of helping the Arabs rising up against their dictators?

Why John McCain, our very own nominee in 2008. Either of these fellows being elected back in 2008 would have brought us to this point.


20 posted on 09/13/2012 3:49:36 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: WilliamIII

If Republicans weren’t FOR every military intervention (Syria, Lybia) this would mean drilling home the “I told you so” message would be an absolute winner. Unfortunately the Republicans have been on board the whole way. To be fair, Rush, Hannity were not on board but they aren’t politicians. This was predictable as it was happening. Also, Romney and Ryan aren’t drilling home that it’s the policies that led to this but that’s probably because they don’t particularly disagree with the policies (so sad)


21 posted on 09/13/2012 5:52:20 AM PDT by wiseprince
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To: Alas Babylon!
John McCain, our very own nominee in 2008. Either of these fellows being elected back in 2008 would have brought us to this point.

What was this McAnus doing at the GOP convention? Ironically it was the NVA that saved this fellow's reputation. Previous to capture he was known throughout the service as a drunken, disorderly, dumb, unskilled, unsafe, but well-connected disgrace to his usually disheveled uniform and was best known for frequently getting lost. Who the hell keeps making him a Senator?

Yeah, I voted for him.

22 posted on 09/13/2012 7:51:07 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Obama = Allende.)
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To: Pontiac

Putin isn’t nearly as bad as what many Russians are accustomed to. Especially the older ones....


23 posted on 09/13/2012 10:10:35 AM PDT by Quickgun (Second Amendment. The only one you can put your hands on.)
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To: Navy Patriot

IIRC, A finger a day off one of their members was sent until the Russians got their diplomat back.


24 posted on 09/13/2012 12:55:25 PM PDT by printhead (Standard & Poor - Poor is the new standard.)
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