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What really motivated the embassy attacks?
Pundicity/Michael Rubin.org ^ | Sept. 12, 2012 | Michael Rubin

Posted on 09/13/2012 5:13:20 AM PDT by nuconvert

The September 11 murder of U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens, a mob's sacking of the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, and the attack on the U.S. embassy in Cairo demonstrate the war against terrorism is far from over. Disturbingly, 11 years after al Qaida's devastating attack on New York and Washington, neither the White House nor the State Department appears to recognize what the fight is about.

As protests erupted outside the U.S. embassy in Cairo, embassy public affairs officer Larry Schwartz tweeted — and then re-tweeted — a condemnation of the controversial film which initial reports suggested motivated the rioters. "We firmly reject the actions by those who abuse the universal right of free speech to hurt the religious beliefs of others," the embassy's feed declared. The Arabic tweets were even more fervent: "We vehemently reject the actions of those who abuse the worldwide right to freedom of expression in order to injure the religious beliefs of others." It would be unfair to make Schwartz the fall guy.

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Even before the smoke cleared from the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, President Barack Obama effused moral equivalency. "While the United States rejects efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others," he declared, "we must all unequivocally oppose the kind of senseless violence that took the lives of these public servants."

The idea that the riots were spontaneous shows detachment from the reality of the Middle East. Dozens of heavily armed and murderous Islamists sacking embassies are not flash mobs of teenagers converging on a mall food court. When I lived in pre-war Iraq, the Islamic Republic of Iran, and Yemen, my students and colleagues often spoke of how they had been informed by government representatives where to board buses to attend "spontaneous" rallies to be held the following day.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cairo; embassy; libya; michaelrubin

1 posted on 09/13/2012 5:13:25 AM PDT by nuconvert
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To: nuconvert
Alas, apologies and self-flagellation represent not a path to peace, but little more than preemptive surrender.

Obama has been surrendering America to the Muslims since day one of the Obama Regime.

2 posted on 09/13/2012 5:18:36 AM PDT by MissMagnolia (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. (M.Thatcher))
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To: nuconvert

Ayman Al Zawahiri told us


3 posted on 09/13/2012 5:19:57 AM PDT by scooby321 (AMS)
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To: nuconvert

Reports of muslims yelling “Death to Obama” to their dearest ally the US president last night lead me to believe Hussein betrayed his mission and them by allegedly insisting on Jerusalem being added back to his campaign.

I’m surprised Hussein allowed Big Media to credit him with doing so.


4 posted on 09/13/2012 5:19:57 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
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5 posted on 09/13/2012 5:30:53 AM PDT by SJackson (none of this suggests there are hostile feelings for the US in Egypt, Victoria Nuland, State Dept)
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To: MissMagnolia

My instincts tell me that the Obama administration wouldn’t really mind if the next Republican administration were to inherit a situation requiring us to go to war in the Middle East...again.


6 posted on 09/13/2012 5:31:33 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: nuconvert

Muslims do not need excuses to kill,they love it.

This excuse about the film is unadulterated BS.


7 posted on 09/13/2012 5:32:52 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: nuconvert
What motivates them? Just following their holy books.

The Koran:

Sura (2:191-193) - "And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution of Muslims is worse than slaughter of non-believers...and fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah."

Sura (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward."

Sura (4:76) - "Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah…"

Sura (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement"

Sura (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"

Sura (8:39) - "And fight with them until there is no more persecution and religion should be only for Allah"

Sura (8:57) - "If thou comest on them in the war, deal with them so as to strike fear in those who are behind them, that haply they may remember."

Sura (9:14) - "Fight them, Allah will punish them by your hands and bring them to disgrace..."

Sura (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, even if they are of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."

Sura (9:30) - "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!"

Sura (9:123) - "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness."

Sura (47:4) - "So when you meet in battle those who disbelieve, then smite the necks until when you have overcome them, then make them prisoners,"

Sura (61:4) - "Surely Allah loves those who fight in His way"

Sura (66:9) - "O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites, and be stern with them. Hell will be their home, a hapless journey's end

From the Hadith:

Muslim (1:33) - the Messenger of Allah said: I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify that there is no god but Allah, that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah

Bukhari (8:387) - Allah's Apostle said, “I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah’”

Tabari 7:97 The morning after the murder of Ashraf, the Prophet declared, "Kill any Jew who falls under your power."

Ibn Ishaq: 327 - “Allah said, ‘A prophet must slaughter before collecting captives. A slaughtered enemy is driven from the land. Muhammad, you craved the desires of this world, its goods and the ransom captives would bring. But Allah desires killing them to manifest the religion.’”

Ibn Ishaq: 992 - "Fight everyone in the way of Allah and kill those who disbelieve in Allah."

8 posted on 09/13/2012 5:32:52 AM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: nuconvert

October surprise come early. Obama is going to settle all this and come out the hero, thus winning the election.

No Muslim, here in this country or anywhere in the world, wants Romney to win the election and it’s been too close for the WH comfort. Thus the left media, Muslim, Dem cooperation to stage a little mess over there for Obama to straighten out. Of course the Ambassador was only supposed to be taken hostage, but some of the rebels got out of hand. Watch and see.


9 posted on 09/13/2012 5:35:58 AM PDT by Hattie
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To: FatherofFive

The only good Muslim is a bad Muslim.


10 posted on 09/13/2012 5:37:54 AM PDT by luvbach1 (Stop the destruction in 2012 or continue the decline)
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To: Hattie

Fast and Furious gives way to Consulate Conquest. Wouldn’t put it past the regime.


11 posted on 09/13/2012 5:40:17 AM PDT by luvbach1 (Stop the destruction in 2012 or continue the decline)
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To: MissMagnolia

In the Egyptian Revolution facebook was widely used to stir people up, inform them and create action. Now the Muslim Brotherhood and the Islamic Fundamentalists may be using facebook and other internet websites to coordinate these attacks against U.S. citizens and U.S. interests.


12 posted on 09/13/2012 5:41:13 AM PDT by Freedom of Speech Wins
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To: nuconvert
The September 11 murder of U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens, a mob's sacking of the U.S. consulate in Benghazi,

Based on circulating reports a total of 4 US citizens were killed with one being Ambassador Stevens, two Marine guards and one unidentified civil servant.

I have yet to see any report mentioning any Libyan deaths. This raises the question if the Marine guards either were not issued ammunition and their weapons served only ceremonial purposes or if they were under orders not to shoot?

I can't imagine two Marine guards not being able to take out at least one attacker.

I believe these honorable men were sacrificed in a back room deal by Hillary & Obama as a peace offering to the Muslims.

13 posted on 09/13/2012 5:55:28 AM PDT by varon (I remember when America was American.)
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins
Twitter in play ......FB mentioned as well near the end of the post:

An embassy statement, a tweet, and a major misunderstanding

14 posted on 09/13/2012 5:56:27 AM PDT by MissMagnolia (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. (M.Thatcher))
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To: nuconvert

15 posted on 09/13/2012 6:25:43 AM PDT by Old Sarge (We are now officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet)
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To: nuconvert

Middle East craziness has been going on since the beginning of time. It will never change or stop. The next 10 Presidents will deal with this again and again.


16 posted on 09/13/2012 6:29:24 AM PDT by napscoordinator (Paul Ryan/Rick Santorum 2012....That would be the best scenario ever.)
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To: nuconvert
Let's see, it was another 9/11 Tuesday and they still hate us. Sounds like enough motivation for them.
17 posted on 09/13/2012 6:31:34 AM PDT by bgill
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To: nuconvert

The fact that we exist, that’s what motivates them.


18 posted on 09/13/2012 6:31:52 AM PDT by dfwgator (I'm voting for Ryan and that other guy.)
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To: varon

I’ve been wondering the same thing about the two marines.


19 posted on 09/13/2012 6:50:41 AM PDT by bronxville (Margaret Sanger - “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population,)
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To: nuconvert

Has anyone here actually seen the film itself?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmodVun16Q4

Here is a 13 min excerpt and it goes without saying that it is terrible, terrible quality. On top of that, I read today that the actors in are horrified to see how they have been used, as apparently they were told it was a generic historical piece. The so-called blasphemous bits were dubbed in, and dubbed badly as you can see.

What this smells like is some sort of setup; 0bama sympathizers make a fake movie to incite the Muzzies, they rampage, and 0bama looks stern as probably gets ready to order an airstrike or two to look like he’s doing something.

I wouldn’t be surprised if the higher-ups in the Libyan forces were in on this.


20 posted on 09/13/2012 6:51:24 AM PDT by mquinn (Obama's supporters: a deliberate drowning of consciousness by means of rhythmic noise)
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To: nuconvert

a phone call from the White House


21 posted on 09/13/2012 7:04:26 AM PDT by Oratam
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To: luvbach1
The only good Muslim is a bad Muslim.Brilliant!

I had a similar conversation with my son. He played competitive soccer, and the keeper was a Muslim. My son didn't believe me when I told him what Muslims are supposed to believe until I pulled out the koran. My son was stunned. My son told me his friend didn't believe those things. I told him his friend was a bad muslim, but a good kid.

22 posted on 09/13/2012 8:13:26 AM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: nuconvert

Shifting the focus of the debates AWAY from the economy?


23 posted on 09/13/2012 9:22:09 AM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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