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Citizens United Poll Shows Akin leading in Missouri
Politico ^ | 9/13/2012 | Maggie Haberman

Posted on 09/13/2012 8:33:27 AM PDT by katiedidit1

A poll commissioned by Citizens United's political arm shows Todd Akin leading Sen. Claire McCaskill in Missouri.

The poll by the CU political victory fund and conducted by Wenzel Strategies, shows Akin ahead by almost 5 points. Mitt Romney leads President Obama by 20 points.

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: 2012polls; akin; akinmovingup; mo2012
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1 posted on 09/13/2012 8:33:34 AM PDT by katiedidit1
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To: katiedidit1
Tokyo Rove is deeply saddened.
2 posted on 09/13/2012 8:34:31 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: katiedidit1

I hope Akin recommends to the GOP that they stick it where the sun doesn’t shine after he wins.


3 posted on 09/13/2012 8:35:09 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: katiedidit1

Does the CU poll hold any water? Never heard of ‘em.


4 posted on 09/13/2012 8:35:18 AM PDT by albie
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To: katiedidit1; liberty_lvr; Prov3456; YOMO; Evil Slayer; samiam1972; Controlling Legal Authority; ...

Poll is slanted to the right but I believe things are looking good for Akin. Let’s roll!


5 posted on 09/13/2012 8:36:55 AM PDT by katiedidit1 (Constitutionalist..period)
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To: katiedidit1

Rasmussen has the race at Socialist Hag 49, Akin 43, and Romney with a three point lead, both of which seem a little low.


6 posted on 09/13/2012 8:37:40 AM PDT by TonyInOhio (Speak Up, Mitt!)
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To: EGPWS

I was one of those who urged Akin to quit.

Now he looks like he can survive.

Good for him.

McCaskill must be a real POS if she cannot win after Akin stuck his foot in his mouth.


7 posted on 09/13/2012 8:38:27 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: albie

Wenzel Strategies conducted a survey of likely General Election voters statewide in Missouri regarding the race for the U.S. Senate. The survey was conducted September 10-11, 2012, and included 850 respondents. The margin of error for the survey is +/- 3.33 percentage points.


8 posted on 09/13/2012 8:39:39 AM PDT by katiedidit1 (Constitutionalist..period)
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To: albie

It’s a push poll seeking a specific result.

The only Missouri Senate Polls I’d take seriously are the two most recent Rassmussen ones, and the Mason-Dixon poll.


9 posted on 09/13/2012 8:40:57 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: katiedidit1

Well that won’t last. As soon as the GOP elites, Rove, Krystal et al get done dissing him again McCaskill will be back in the lead.


10 posted on 09/13/2012 8:41:25 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: katiedidit1

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/she-the-people/post/todd-akin-returns-to-campaign-trail/2012/09/12/d8e7be30-fcfc-11e1-98c6-ec0a0a93f8eb_blog.html

After a few agitprop paragraphs this article has an account of an appearance by him.

Sounds pretty good.


11 posted on 09/13/2012 8:41:25 AM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: katiedidit1

Rasmussen has McCaskill up by 6. Take your pick.


12 posted on 09/13/2012 8:41:39 AM PDT by Delhi Rebels (There was a row in Silver Street - the regiments was out.)
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To: albie

“Does the CU poll hold any water? Never heard of ‘em.”

Isn’t Citizens United the David Bossie organization? Sorry but Romney up 20 points while Rasmussan has him up 3?? We need to apply the same analysis to CU as anyone else - show me the internals and we can judge fairly. This might be as much an agenda poll as some of the PPP crap we see.

And full disclosure, I’m another one who thought Akin should have stepped aside.


13 posted on 09/13/2012 8:43:04 AM PDT by LRoggy (Peter's Son's Business)
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To: albie
Does the CU poll hold any water? Never heard of ‘em

We would have to see the internals to determine whether it is valid. Men vs. women, political affiliation, race, etc... then compare those to the MO baseline.

14 posted on 09/13/2012 8:44:49 AM PDT by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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To: katiedidit1

The GOP moderates had better get hopping.


15 posted on 09/13/2012 8:45:44 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: katiedidit1

Watch, should he win, they’ll deny him committee assignments, but traitorous Murkowski got to keep hers of course.


16 posted on 09/13/2012 8:47:53 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: albie

Predicted Arizona - Schweikert over Quayle ( correct - but overestimated the magnitude of lead)

Predicted Mourdock over Lugar (Correct - but underestimated magnitude of lead)

Predicted Cruz win in run off and was within a few points of the margin over 2 weeks ahead of the election.

Not a bad track record. There were other good calls I found in my research.


17 posted on 09/13/2012 8:52:22 AM PDT by Ingtar (Everyone complains about the weather, but only Liberals try to legislate it.)
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To: LRoggy
If you would take the time to click on the poll you would have accessed the internals. Survey included 424 men and 426 women. It gives other stats and info too. Hard to read a headline and form an opinion without looking a little further into the provided information.
No way Akin should have stepped aside to accommodate the establishment. Akin worked hard and beat out 2 other candidates. He was elected by the voters of MO. If the establishment wants to start forcing candidates out due to gaffes or otherwise..I would be happy to send them a list of rinos that are not conservative. The GOP should also reprimand Rove publically for his murder remark.
18 posted on 09/13/2012 8:55:49 AM PDT by katiedidit1 (Constitutionalist..period)
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To: Delhi Rebels; Strategerist

Where are the Rasmussen internals???


19 posted on 09/13/2012 8:57:09 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Ingtar

Thanks Ingtar:) doing a little research makes a difference. I clicked on the poll and it gives the internals for those that prefer to pounce only on a headline.


20 posted on 09/13/2012 8:58:21 AM PDT by katiedidit1 (Constitutionalist..period)
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To: Ingtar

Thank you.


21 posted on 09/13/2012 9:03:01 AM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: katiedidit1

What a horseshit poll.


22 posted on 09/13/2012 9:05:17 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: katiedidit1

The only thing I see in the internals that looks odd is that it might over sample northwest Missouri and that Independents might be underrepresented.


23 posted on 09/13/2012 9:12:59 AM PDT by Ingtar (Everyone complains about the weather, but only Liberals try to legislate it.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“Tokyo Rove is deeply saddened.”

Along with John Cornball and What’s-his-name Priebus.


24 posted on 09/13/2012 9:14:11 AM PDT by SharpRightTurn ( White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: katiedidit1

The legitimate rape issue isn’t nearly as big as Rove and many of the hand-wringers want everyone to believe. Akin won the primary and Tinky Winky Rove won’t be able to fill it with some Mike Castle like candidate.

As I remember Bachmann went through the same thing (in 2008???) when she had a lot of her funding cut off. She fought through it and I think Akin can as well.


25 posted on 09/13/2012 9:15:21 AM PDT by bereanway
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To: justlurking

<>We would have to see the internals ..... then compare those to the MO baseline<>

Here it is:

http://images.politico.com/global/2012/09/missouri_surveytopline_report_9-12-2012_2.html

The Wenzel internals are reflective of the Missouri electorate, in contrast to Rasmussen that does not make public its internals.


26 posted on 09/13/2012 9:18:26 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: TonyInOhio

It may just be me but I don’t think a voter will go to the polls and pull the lever for Romney and then vote for McCaskill. Nope, just won’t happen. Hopefully Aiken will pull this out and can say KMA to Rove.


27 posted on 09/13/2012 9:23:08 AM PDT by GrandmaPatriot
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To: bereanway

“Akin won the primary”

With McCaskill’s help and by less that a couple of percentage points against the other two candidates in the primary. I just don’t see why everyone sees this guy as some landslide winner! He still seems like a dumb ass to me, but I still hope that he is able to win the seat if he stays.


28 posted on 09/13/2012 9:27:13 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: Uncle Chip
Thanks for the info, but I don't have the baseline for MO to which I can compare it. In a quick spot check, I can see they oversampled whites and undersampled blacks by about 4 points:

http://www.statehealthfacts.org/profileind.jsp?ind=6&cat=1&rgn=27

And undersampled women by about 1 point:

http://www.statehealthfacts.org/profileind.jsp?ind=5&cat=1&rgn=27

29 posted on 09/13/2012 9:30:21 AM PDT by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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To: katiedidit1

I was not surprised when Rove and the GOPe and faux-conservative pundits all jumped aboard the Communist Propaganda Train and viciously attacked Lakin as a stupid idiot.

But I WAS discouraged when numerous Freepers, perhaps a majority of those who posted, joined the left-wing bashing party.

Lakin made a minor error, mostly the use of the phrase “legitimate rape.”

But Lakin was an experienced, long-term congressman with a very strong and reliable conservative record. That’s why the GOPe and their Communist friends wanted to get rid of him.

Should we throw Lakin under the Obamanoid Bus because he made a single verbal gaffe, after a solid lifetime record of conservative achievement?

Or should we hit back?

Which is worse, killing every baby in sight, or making a minor verbal gaffe?

I was very discouraged at the attitude of numerous freepers. Knee-jerk submission to a left-wing attack isn’t the way to win the game.


30 posted on 09/13/2012 9:31:32 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: justlurking
What would help is to get the internals of the Rasmussen poll just taken and compare them -- but unless you are a Rasmussen subscriber, you don't get access to those.

Perhaps someone here that subscribes to Rasmussen will post them.

Blacks are probably undersampled because they are least likely to vote -- once.

31 posted on 09/13/2012 9:35:28 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: katiedidit1

This poll is almost certainly somewhat too “optimistic”. Todd Akin needs all the help he can get—donations and/or volunteering.

http://www.akin.org/


32 posted on 09/13/2012 9:37:08 AM PDT by House Atreides
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To: GrandmaPatriot
It may just be me but I don’t think a voter will go to the polls and pull the lever for Romney and then vote for McCaskill. Nope, just won’t happen. Hopefully Aiken will pull this out and can say KMA to Rove.

Sure they will split the ticket. Some dim bulbs like divided government and/or do not like Akin.

Akin has no chance in a presidential year with all the ozombie voters getting to the polls. But Akin supporters win either way. He wins and it's I told you so. He loses and you can just blame the GOPe for not supporting him. Great odds you have on this deal.

33 posted on 09/13/2012 9:42:04 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: katiedidit1

“We should sink Todd Akin. If he’s found mysteriously murdered, don’t look for my whereabouts!”

"He can be tied. We're not gonna send him a penny."

34 posted on 09/13/2012 9:43:06 AM PDT by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their president is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: Venturer

“I was one of those who urged Akin to quit.

Now he looks like he can survive.

Good for him.

McCaskill must be a real POS if she cannot win after Akin stuck his foot in his mouth”

I must be honest and say that this applies to me, as well.

I think that it is now time for the rest of the Republicans to start supporting him - quietly, if they have no guts, but supporting him nonetheless. Dingy Harry needs to be removed as Majority Leader, and all of the committees need to have Republicans (hopefully the more conservative of the bunch) as their heads. The MO seat may well be critical, and in any case if Akin is elected he’ll balance off one of the RINO beotches from Maine. We also CANNOT let the Senate be controlled by Dems when it comes to approving of federal judges - time to support Akin. If nothing else, drum up as many solid R voters as possible and get them to the polls.


35 posted on 09/13/2012 9:45:39 AM PDT by Ancesthntr (Bibi to Odumbo: Its not going to happen.)
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To: vette6387
How much do you know about Akin? are you familiar with the previous elections he won in MO? many by large margins. Are you familiar with his voting record? he is more conservative than Romney and most republicans. Fact is..Akin won. Brunner had a ton of money and Steelman was supported by Palin but came in third.
The National Republican Party has tossed millions behind two pro choice candidates. Like it or not Akin is IN and it would be in the best interest of the rino’s in the establishment to unite behind him and defeat the leftwinger known as Claire McCaskill. I find it insulting that Coulter would go on Fox and call Akin a swine and Rove would joke about murder at the Republican Convention. Something stinks about the GOP reaction and there is a lot more than a gaffe behind it.
36 posted on 09/13/2012 9:45:54 AM PDT by katiedidit1 (Constitutionalist..period)
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To: Fresh Wind

and don’t forget..Coulter called Akin a swine. What kind of republicans are they? Rove? Priebus? Coulter?


37 posted on 09/13/2012 9:48:01 AM PDT by katiedidit1 (Constitutionalist..period)
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To: katiedidit1

The good news for Akin has the FR Rovian turd blossoms disappointed. I’d like to see him win if only to further disturb the hysterical fools that called for Akin’s head.


38 posted on 09/13/2012 9:52:52 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: Venturer

Yes after Akin spoke poorly and Repubicans savaged him thereby doing the Lefts job for them you mean


39 posted on 09/13/2012 9:54:37 AM PDT by wardaddy (this is a perfect window for Netanyahu to bomb Iran..I hereby give my go ahead..thanks Muzzie idiots)
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To: katiedidit1

Tactically speaking, Akin should now discreetly court the national Tea Party, big time.

Here’s the logic.

Akin may still be too hot to publicly support as far as the Tea Party is concerned. However, if he makes it clear he is aligned with their bloc in the Republican party, and wants to work towards their ends when elected, it can work to their mutual advantage.

From the Tea Party’s point of view, it would mean another Tea Party senator. From Akin’s point of view, he would hope to be treated by the Tea Party as a member of their bloc after being elected, which means being a part of their team against the RINOs and Republican establishment that despised him.

Otherwise, as a loner in the senate, he will be fairly powerless. The Republican leadership, which hated him before, and hates him now, will continue to hate him when elected, and do everything they can to minimize him.

Unless he is backed by the Tea Party that will demand they treat him with respect.


40 posted on 09/13/2012 9:58:44 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (DIY Bumper Sticker: "THREE TIMES,/ DEMOCRATS/ REJECTED GOD")
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To: iopscusa

We need to do a thread and ping all those jackasses here when he wins

Dig the petard


41 posted on 09/13/2012 9:59:07 AM PDT by wardaddy (this is a perfect window for Netanyahu to bomb Iran..I hereby give my go ahead..thanks Muzzie idiots)
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To: katiedidit1

If accurate, the poll indicates that the voters of Missouri are discerning to notice two facts: Akin is merely mistaken, while McCaskill is putrid.


42 posted on 09/13/2012 10:04:25 AM PDT by DPMD
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To: katiedidit1
What kind of republicans are they? Rove? Priebus? Coulter?

They represent what the the Republican Party has become, and not what it used to be.

That being the case, I would suggest that being a "Republican In Name Only" has become a good thing, and something to be proud of. A "New RINO" would be a Tea Party person who only keeps his or her registration with the GOP to maintain voting rights in primary elections. I can't see any other reason any more to call one's self a Republican.

In this sense, Romney isn't a RINO, he's a true Republican, just like Rove, Priebus, and Coulter.

43 posted on 09/13/2012 10:12:46 AM PDT by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their president is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: katiedidit1

Romney may be up by 20 (and damn well should be) in Idaho, Alaska or Wyoming. Missouri — no way.


44 posted on 09/13/2012 10:17:27 AM PDT by PermaRag (If Trayvon had a father, he'd look just like Obama)
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To: DPMD

My E-MAIL to the NRSC

There you go again, your candidate in MO uses the wrong word to cite a fact. The Alinsky cadre of the Democrat party starts frothing at the mouth and you roll over on your backs and meekly plead “ we didn’t mean to hurt your feelings”.
You testicle deprived illegitimate offspring, get up on your hind legs and fight. The best defence is a full out attack.
The Republican party doing what they do best, working doubly hard to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.


45 posted on 09/13/2012 10:25:54 AM PDT by W. W. SMITH ((Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.)
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To: vette6387

Do you live in Missouri?


46 posted on 09/13/2012 10:27:21 AM PDT by misharu (US Congress: Children without adult supervision.)
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To: DPMD
If accurate, the poll indicates that the voters of Missouri are discerning to notice two facts: Akin is merely mistaken, while McCaskill is putrid.

We Missourians already knew that. The ones who are "discerning" are those who live out of state and don't understand neither the players or the playing field.

47 posted on 09/13/2012 10:31:54 AM PDT by misharu (US Congress: Children without adult supervision.)
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To: W. W. SMITH

W. W. Smith:) Excellent email. You sure laid it on the line...lol. I love it!


48 posted on 09/13/2012 10:50:37 AM PDT by katiedidit1 (Constitutionalist..period)
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To: Fresh Wind

Fresh wind I have to agree with you about RINOs and I actually would fit into the RINO category. It’s similar to how the UKIP is the Conservative Party in the UK the Tory Party are the Rockyfellar Repubs.


49 posted on 09/13/2012 10:58:47 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: justlurking

Those are population numbers not participation numbers.


50 posted on 09/13/2012 11:37:12 AM PDT by Uriah_lost (Is there no balm in Gilead?....MiE (Mainer in Exile))
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