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REPORTS: No Live Ammo for Marines
The Washington Free Beacon ^ | Sept 13. 2012 | Adam Kredo

Posted on 09/13/2012 9:38:46 AM PDT by Cliff Dweller

U.S. Marines defending the American embassy in Egypt were not permitted by the State Department to carry live ammunition, limiting their ability to respond to attacks like those this week on the U.S. consulate in Cairo.

Ambassador to Egypt Anne Patterson “did not permit U.S. Marine guards to carry live ammunition,” according to multiple reports on U.S. Marine Corps blogs spotted by Nightwatch. “She neutralized any U.S. military capability that was dedicated to preserve her life and protect the US Embassy.”

If true, the reports indicate that Patterson shirked her obligation to protect U.S. interests, Nightwatch states.

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To: Braak
He's killing Americans through stupidity.

I think soetoro is killing Americans by design.

81 posted on 09/13/2012 10:21:33 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Nifster
I am in living in an insane time warp....Is it 1979 or is it 2012??? I can no longer tell with certainty

2012. We have iPhones.

82 posted on 09/13/2012 10:21:33 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com)
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To: joe fonebone

I’d rather be in Leavenworth.

You put me in that third world piss hole surrounded by people who HATE me and want to KILL me then give me what amounts to a baseball bat to protect myself?

I’ll refuse to take my post.

Maybe that is why I never joined the military.


83 posted on 09/13/2012 10:22:20 AM PDT by cableguymn
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To: Tennessee Nana

“...and willard doesnt like nasty guns either...”

You really think that Romney would disarm the military?

Idiotic and predicted response from you, as always.


84 posted on 09/13/2012 10:23:02 AM PDT by panaxanax (Voting 'Third Party' will ensure a Communist-Marxist-Socialist dominated Supreme Court!)
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To: Cliff Dweller

Throughout the world, United States Marines are known for their fighting ability. Everyone in the world knows that you don’t try to take on US Marines with a wet towel. To take away the ammunition from Marines in a foreign country and in a dangerous situation is to take American warriors and reduce them to nothing but targets. This Ambassador should immediately be fired. Our chairman of the joint chiefs of staff will call a Pastor about his thoughts on a movie, but he doesn’t have the guts to tell the Secretary of State that an Ambassador is an idiot? They must cut off their testicles when they make them a general.


85 posted on 09/13/2012 10:24:36 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Cliff Dweller

I kept skipping over this article because I couldn’t bring myself to believe that our ambassador could be so naive and foolish.

Reminds me of my friend who was in the Army under Carter. He was supposed to guard a communications facility in Germany, during the time of the Baader/Meinhoff gang/Red Brigade era. He was issued three bullets and had to go out on a patrol of four people, if I recall. He gave the bullets to the other soldiers and he went without. While they were patrolling, a car drove up to the fence and people got out with tools and appeared to be ready to go through the fence and sabotage the communications facility. He and the other soldiers approached, and the people in the car saw them and quickly left. My friend looked at his guys and one of the soldiers immediately apologized for not firing, saying he blew it because he was just surprised and scared. Then he said, “but why didn’t you fire?” My friend had to tell him it was because his gun was empty.

A few weeks later, Reagan became president. There was never a lack of bullets again.


86 posted on 09/13/2012 10:25:21 AM PDT by married21 (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: Noamie
looks...seems very plausible..

87 posted on 09/13/2012 10:26:36 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (WA DC E$tabli$hment; DNC/RNC/Unionists...Brazilian saying: "$@me Old $hit; w/ different flie$" :^)
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To: StarFan; Dutchy; alisasny; BobFromNJ; BUNNY2003; Cacique; Clemenza; Coleus; cyborg; DKNY; ...
Yet another "Whiskey Tango Foxtrot" ping...

>:-(

88 posted on 09/13/2012 10:26:51 AM PDT by nutmeg (I'm with Sarah Palin and Ted Cruz: "ABO"/Ryan 2012)
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To: Tennessee Nana
... I wondered how the Islamic terrorists could get anywhere near the wall and even on top and over into the compund without one of them getting a bullet or 10...

Its US soil...

Its like someone breaking into the White House grounds...

White House gaurds *may* not be equipped with live ammo either ... we really don't know ...
89 posted on 09/13/2012 10:27:12 AM PDT by _Jim (Conspiracy theories are the favorite tools of the weak-minded.)
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To: MNJohnnie; Tennessee Nana

“Conservatives to Reelect President 0bama” (CREEP0)
_______________________

BINGO, Johnnie!


90 posted on 09/13/2012 10:27:46 AM PDT by panaxanax (Voting 'Third Party' will ensure a Communist-Marxist-Socialist dominated Supreme Court!)
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To: Cliff Dweller
U.S. Marines defending the American embassy in Egypt were not permitted by the State Department to carry live ammunition, limiting their ability to respond to attacks like those this week on the U.S. consulate in Cairo.

Will the 50 members of Fleet Anti terrorism Security Team that are being sent to guard the consulate be allowed to have ammunition and to open fire under attack or are they being sent to be sodomized, murdered and dragged through the streets as it was done with our ambassador?

IMHO, the SoS and any ambassador who prohibits use of arms by those who are charged with the responsibility to protect life and property and those individuals are killed during discharge of their duty, the Sos and ambassador should be charged with murder or accessory to murder.

91 posted on 09/13/2012 10:28:14 AM PDT by varon (I remember when America was American.)
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To: Blue Highway
The look of a grade school librarian: Photobucket
92 posted on 09/13/2012 10:28:32 AM PDT by Never on my watch (I can see November from the Chick-Fil-A drive through lane.)
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To: Lazamataz

Rage Monkey needs to read this post.

I think Rage Monkey would be enraged by the fact that the GubMint just ordered 1.2 Billion rounds of hollow point .357 Sig for DHS, TSA, The Social Security Administration and the National Weather Service while leaving Marines overseas with no bullets.

(A rifle without ammo - It’s just a fancy stick.)


93 posted on 09/13/2012 10:28:43 AM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: lonevoice

If true, this might be the reason the embassy had no marine protection. You can’t go into a violent mob without a loaded gun unless you are suicidal. This is more than shocking.


94 posted on 09/13/2012 10:30:13 AM PDT by Pride in the USA (With Romney - Ryan you get change back.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

re: “and willard doesnt like nasty guns either...”
= = = = = = = = = = = = = =

Your reaction to the story is so Tennessee Nana. They were not allowed to have live ammo, which was a horrible and deadly policy for our side. What do you do? You use the Obama/Clinton failure to take a shot at Romney. You are obsessed. Or possessed. Well, Nana, Romney would not do the same. Is your world going to collapse if a dreaded Mormon actually sits in the Oval Office? Do we need to put you on suicide watch?

What really irks me is that I do not particularly like Romney but sometimes have to defend him from the likes of you. He was next to last on my list, just above Ron Paul. Until the end, I was hoping another Republican would take the nomination.


95 posted on 09/13/2012 10:32:34 AM PDT by doug from upland (I don't like RINOs, but I love my country more than I hate Romney...Muslim marxist, get out!)
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To: Cliff Dweller

So what good are marines without bullets? Maybe they used the marines to serve them drinks?


96 posted on 09/13/2012 10:32:40 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: Noamie

Sounds pretty good to me. Mind if I barrow it? With full credit given to you of course.


97 posted on 09/13/2012 10:33:03 AM PDT by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: Cliff Dweller

Unacceptable. How many Marines would stay on the job if they were denied a weapon to defend their objective or themselves?

It would be an honorable awol for any Marine to walk away from that BS.


98 posted on 09/13/2012 10:34:14 AM PDT by soycd
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To: Never on my watch
"The look of a grade school librarian"

Deja Vu;

Who was ambassador to Iraw prior to the Gulf/Iraq war? From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

April Catherine Glaspie (born April 26, 1942) is a former American diplomat and senior member of the Foreign Service, best known for her role in the events leading up to the Persian Gulf War of 1991.

99 posted on 09/13/2012 10:35:50 AM PDT by _Jim (Conspiracy theories are the favorite tools of the weak-minded.)
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To: Cliff Dweller

This doesn’t surprise me in the least and has a long history. On many deployments embassy procedures seem to be: “No guns.” My CA team was deployed to the Comoros in east Africa with no weapons.

A friend who was deployed to Liberia for civil affairs was even forbidden to carry a weapon. In Liberia. In a country where every 12 year old had an AK. The level of stupidity is mind-blowing.


100 posted on 09/13/2012 10:36:44 AM PDT by jjm2111
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