Skip to comments.REPORTS: No Live Ammo for Marines
Posted on 09/13/2012 9:38:46 AM PDT by Cliff Dweller
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So anything found with Google is confirmed to be true?
One finds a lot of “weird” statements and conversations at this site. Guess it goes with the territory. But I will second your statement as being accurate.
Yes, that's their mindset. They gotta die to learn.
Ambassador to Egypt Anne Patterson was not in Egypt during the unrest. She was safely in DC.
Im still trying to wrap my head around this new fact that our Marines have no ammo ...
I dont live in such a bizarre world...
To me ammo for Marines is as normal as breathing...
Charlie Fox, IMHO. And it will continue. I wish the Marine Guard contingent had surreptitiously carried magazines anyway (”Noted, ma’am”). I know, I know...
By her choice or Hillary's orders?
I have been awake nearly all of three days now except for catnaps following every detail of this madness. I have gritted my teeth so hard at times, one actually chipped. We are seeing outright treason from the man who ascended by fraud to decapitate the USA. He has done a damn fine job of it.
obama and his minions are a scourge on this earth. If there was any justice, the earth would open up and swallow them all.
When I was working at the U.S. Interest Section in Baghdad in 1983, we were in the old embassy building. There were NO MSG. When we secured the building at 1830, there were no humans left in the building. A large number of alarms were activated and our outer perimeter was guarded by Iraqi infantry. We were always shocked to find out when we opened up at 0730 that we hadn’t been penetrated. At the time we were under the aegis of the Belgians. The Belgian flag flew over the mission.
Thank you, dear thouworm!
GOOD to see you again, Arthur Wildfire! March!!!
She’d have been screaming, “Protect me, you idiots!”. Makes me wanna puke.
This has been going on for years, including the Bush administration.
Military can’t even hold rifles when they are patrolling our military bases. They ‘pretend’ to carry guns.
Americans need to start admitting the full level of communist ideology permeating both parties and all of our government.
Then we can start to bring our country back into being.
I’’m going to go out on a limb here and guess that the uniformed Secret
Service agents who guard embassies in DC are armed with live ammunition.
I wrote on another thread, "disarm his Secret Service."
Given the status of the diplomatic facility, I can understand why. There should have been limitations on what kind of communications equipment and level of classified material could be held at the site. We have similar arrangements at small consulates.
Obviously failed History the first time, but now the entire class will have to repeat the course...
“Hey, what the hell are we supposed to use, man? Harsh language?” #Aliens #Frost
Perhaps Levin, Drudge, Rush, Hannity, Beck, and/or Savage will try to find out and let We The People know if Hitlery’s orders were to take ammo from US Marines and leave them sitting ducks.
That koran burning minister should give Dempsey a ring back and ask him to stop endangering our soldiers by putting them in jihadiland as guards with no means of self defense.
This is outrageous. When the US military sees a mob of murderous jihadists storming US terrority (while chanting they are all Osamas), that is a target rich environment. Bullets and bombs are needed.
Fox News update on this:
Further Marine spokesman at Pentagon Lt Col Chris Hughes says these reports are NOT true. This is on the record:
The Ambassador and RSO have been completely and appropriately engaged with the security situation. No restrictions on weapons or weapons status have been imposed. This information comes from the Det Commander at AMEMB Cairo.
We all say this, but seriously, is ANYONE HERE ON FR actually surprised to hear this?
I am not surprised.
To the Nth degree.
But not surprised.
Maybe he will follow up on it tomorrow
This makes me sick.
~a Marine mom
I wonder if anyone in Congress has the brass to initiate a bill to prohibit anyone in the military from being assigned to any overseas posting without being fully armed with loaded weapons and an appropriate number of extra magazines, and grenades. Would such a bill receive the 2/3 votes necessary to override a
Not surprised. I wondered what the RsOE were.
To the Obama administration, Marines are expendable.
Nothing... and I mean NOTHING... surprises me anymore. Just think of the most stupid thing that can be done... like Marines without ammo... and there it is.
I personally believe that our ME embassies should have mine fields, too.
Somebody want to remind me where an apologist ambassador gets the authority to disarm a US Marine? Not on my watch. I can picture a blabby mouthed ambassador learning all about a butt stroke? It used to be considered a good assignment to get posted to an embassy. Now it sounds more like a suicide wish. All these Obamuzzie apologists are going to come to grief. They are clearly seen by the muzzies/’rabs as the “weakest link”. I just hope none of out Marines get hurt humoring these high nosed pieces or work-——————————Semper Fi.
At the Baghdad facility, we had a State communicator and our “other” comcen. All crypto equipment and associate documents were locked in safes at night. There about four different levels of security so we would know if there had been any penetration by Saddam’s goons, who were on us like Holy on the Pope.
Oh you mean that divorced hot headed crazy Hollyweird actor??? He will never be president....
He is no Reagan, I grant that, but Mitt did a good job condeming what happened in Libya and Egypt (even by our own embassy ‘staff’) and in support of the citizen’s right to Constitutionally protected freedoms
It would be a stretch to suggest Hildabeast "ordered" Anne to take ammo from the Marines. Hildabeast is smarter than that, and knows she doesn't need to open a fight with the Marine Corps, the later being the reigning Olympic Gold Medalist when dealing with the MSM to form public opinion.
Just my take.
>>>and willard doesnt like nasty guns either...>>>
He just gave a very strong statement saying in several different ways that he believes in the 2nd amendment.
yes sir!.........but, I will match you and raise you a hunerd!...........a young marine should have the “right” written into his contract, to throw down his weapon and quit in the face of such an order.............meaning it ought to be illegal in any event to order a young marine to face imminent and potentially deadly danger with a unloaded weapon! What an insult to these young men!
I despise the liberal bitch that gave this order and the officer that permitted it! When I signed, I signed to”obey all “lawful” orders! This should be an unlawful order!
Didnt you recently get your little bot spanked for being cheeky to your elders ???
Two or Three days a week my son pulled the day shift at the front desk greeting the public who would come into the embassy. he was behind glass, but he had his loaded side arm.
Go tell the Spartans, stranger passing by
that here, obedient to their law, we lie.
Simonides’s epigram at Thermopylae
Thank GOD this is finally seeing the light of day. The WFB had it on their site yesterday at least. I was passing it out as much as I could. I suspect the WH is in full spin mode, conferring with this idiot ambassador and lining up their ducks so they can come out with some seemingly plausible justification about what went down. WE know what went down. Now all that’s left is to see how the left and media bootlickers are going to spin it. You know they will. The Marines are merely props for these people. God it just makes me sick. I’m saying prayers over how sick it makes me. RIP Ambassador Stevens. I hope you are in heaven. God Bless You, Sir.
You mean, the host country would know they had live ammo in their magazine? How? By sending a howling mob to rush their position? And if they get shot, instead of consummating their assault, then the host country would be offended?
You shouldn't have gotten the impression that I think either of those things from any of my posts.
Sorry! My communication skills - via the written word - seem to lately lack coherence! When I wrote “Great idea - not!” it was directed at whoever leaked to this information to the press - not you.
Obviously you are not responsible for the leak.
Thanks for the post!
I wonder what the ROE were for the Marines?? Fix bayonets vs RPG and live rounds? Someone needs to hang.
Hi, I found some interesting notes related to this Beacon article. It’s from a site called Nightwatch. I’d be interested in your take on it. There are notes from seemingly knowledgable people in the field.
Here’s a sample (my apologies for the length, though, it is only a piece of what’s there)
NightWatch Special Comment: Ambassador Anne Patterson’s April Glaspie moment.
Ambassador Anne Patterson, the US Ambassador to Egypt, experienced her ‘April Glaspie’ moment yesterday when she blamed Americans instead of Egyptians for attacking, storming and desecrating the US Embassy in Cairo and the US Flag.
Old hands will remember, April Glaspie, who was a rising star in the State Department’s constellation of diplomats. Her notorious conversation with Saddam Hussein in early 1990 led Saddam to believe that the US encouraged and condoned an Iraqi invasion of Kuwait.
Having worked closely with US officials for a decade in the struggle and war against Iran, Saddam understood that everything after the Glaspie talk was plausible deniability by US President Bush, 41.
Glaspie misunderstood and misjudged the Iraqi leadership and the situation in Iraq. Patterson’s operations at the US Embassy in Cairo bespeak a comparable misjudgment of the Egyptian Arab situation, its volatility and the depth of anti-American sentiment.
She did not permit US Marine guards to carry live ammunition, according to USMC blogs. Thus she neutralized any US military capability that was dedicated to preserve her life and protect the US Embassy.
In this respect, she did not defend US sovereign territory and betrayed her oath of office. She neutered the Marines posted to defend the embassy, trusting the Egyptians over the Marines