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How did obscure hate film earn global wrath? (Al Jizz Apologetics / Indictments)
Al Jazeera ^ | 9/13/2012

Posted on 09/13/2012 12:38:09 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie

How did an obscure film titled either "Innocence of Muslims" or "The Real Life of Muhammed" lead to the emotional and violent ramifications playing out now in Egypt, Libya, Tunisia and other places in the Muslim world?

It was first posted on YouTube by a user called "sam bacile" in July 2012, and has to date received about 450,000 views.

The trailer began to receive more attention this month. On September 4, the same user posted a version dubbed in Arabic, which has since garnered tens of thousands of views.

Morris Sadek, an Egypt-born Coptic Christian who lives in the US, told the Associated Press he had been promoting the film on his website. He also tweeted a link to the trailer on September 9.

Sadek, who serves as head of the National American Coptic Assembly, is known for his vehemently anti-Islam views. He told the Wall Street Journal that "the violence that it [the film] caused in Egypt is further evidence of how violent the religion and people are".

Terry Jones, the Florida pastor whose burning of copies of the Quran in 2011 spurred riots across the Muslim world leading to several deaths, also reportedly promoted the film.

The Arabic version of the trailer received heavy media coverage in Egypt last week, including by controversial hardline TV host Khaled Abdallah, who reported on the film on September 8.

A clip of the show was posted to YouTube on September 9, where it has received almost 400,000.

"The operation behind this film appears to be extreme Egyptian Copts who want to discredit the Morsi government and create a provocation," journalist Max Blumenthal told Al Jazeera on Wednesday.

"They oppose the revolution and are aligned with Christian right groups who have an apocalyptic, theocratic agenda and who are inciting against Muslim-Americans," Blumenthal said.

"They put Muslims in the US in danger, they put Copts in Egypt in danger, and they're putting US diplomats in danger."

YouTube clip blocked

The Afghan government on Wednesday temporarily blocked YouTube in an effort to discourage people from watching the clip. YouTube also blocked the video in Egypt, according to news agency reports.

In a statement issued on Wednesday,YouTube said: "We work hard to create a community everyone can enjoy and which also enables people to express different opinions. This can be a challenge because what's OK in one country can be offensive elsewhere.

"This video, which is widely available on the web, is clearly within our guidelines and so will stay on YouTube. However, given the very difficult situation in Libya and Egypt we have temporarily restricted access in both countries.

"Our hearts are with the families of the people murdered in [Tuesday's] attack in Libya."

Observers say Google has grown more averse to removing videos. After acquisition of YouTube in 2006, it was accused of censorship in several high-profile controversies.

"They're squeezed on all sides," said Rebecca MacKinnon, a fellow at the New America Foundation. "But because of pressure from a lot of people who feel they made the wrong decisions, they now generally err on the side of keeping things up."

In recent years, Google has used technology to filter out videos in certain countries to comply with local regulations.

Riots sparked

The trailer for the film has been cited as the cause for riots at US diplomatic posts in Egypt and Libya.

Even so, the existence of the purported filmmaker, Sam Bacile, allegedly a 52-year-old Israeli-American real estate developer, has yet to be proven.

In interviews with the AP and the Wall Street Journal, a man calling himself "Sam Bacile" said he had raised about $5m to produce the film. He also was quoted describing Islam as "a cancer", and claimed he had raised money from "about 100 Jewish donors" to make the video.

The interview subject did not give the same age during his two known press interviews. He told the AP he was 56.

The man said the amateur, two-hour-long film had involved dozens of actors and was produced in California in 2011. New reports found no prior social media presence by the director or any International Movie Database page for the film.

In an interview with the AP, Nakoula Basseley Nakoula, a 55-year old Coptic Christian from California said he was involved in the production of the film, but that he did not direct it.

Although Nakoula denies he is the same person as "Sam Bacile", the cell phone number used to call "Bacile" was traced to an address near Los Angeles where the AP found Nakoula.

Nakoula has also reportedly used several aliases, including Nicola Bacily and Erwin Salameh.

In 2010, he pleaded no contest to charges of bank fraud in California. He was sentenced to 21 months in prison and ordered to pay more than $790,000 in restitution.

The director of the California Film Commission, which issues permits for films that are shot in the state, told the Huffington Post that no permit was ever granted to anyone by the name "Sam Bacile".

'Desert Warrior'

The trailer for the film, the full version of which is so far unavailable to the public, portrays Islam’s Prophet Muhammad as a fraud and a womaniser, and depicts him having sex. The entire film has only been shown once in public, at a theatre in Hollywood, said the source who identified himself as Bacile.

He also explained he made the film because “after 9/11 everybody should be in front of the judge. Even Jesus, even Muhammad", according to the AP.

Actors who participated in the filming have emerged to say they had no idea the film was even about Muhammad or Islam. The original casting call was reportedly for a film called "Desert Warrior" by director Alan Roberts.

Reports indicate that all the film's religious references were actually dubbed after the original shooting.

Bacile is now reportedly in hiding. Reports suggest the name is merely cover for a larger group, or a pseudonym for someone who may be neither Israeli nor Jewish, but who cited such an identify to inflame sectarian tensions.

One of the actresses who says she was tricked into being in the film says Bacile told her on set that he was Egyptian, and that he spoke Arabic to other men present.

Reuters has reported that Egypt's Coptic Orthodox church issued a statement condemning some Egyptian Christians living aboard who it said had financed "the production of a film insulting Prophet Muhammad".

In Egypt and Libya, public anger at the video spilled over on Tuesday, leading to the death of the US ambassador in Benghazi, Libya and the evacuation of embassy workers in Cairo.


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Totally the Right-Wing Copts' fault!
1 posted on 09/13/2012 12:38:13 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie
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To: Uncle Miltie

There is a reason the Obama protection agency in the “News Media” is busy spinning this on a movie no one has ever heard of.

You can see the blatant coordination of coverage. All the usual Progressive Fascists Democrats in the “news” media are using the same words and talking points. The mobs in the ME aren’t chanting about this movie, they are chanting “1 billion Osamas”.

This is a reaction to Obama bragging 21 times last week about killing Osama


2 posted on 09/13/2012 12:44:50 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: Uncle Miltie
This obscure film is just a weak pretense to whip up the street mob no difference than the phony Koran desecration's at GITMO. Muslims are so threatened by anyone supposedly mocking their religion, but have no problem being bigoted anti Semitic and anti Christian.
3 posted on 09/13/2012 12:52:13 PM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: Uncle Miltie
Were they unsulted in 2004 when "Team America" came out?

4 posted on 09/13/2012 12:52:49 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
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To: Uncle Miltie

Everyone should see this “movie” before the US Dept of Justice and the world internet PC gestapo have it scrubbed.

its totally hoaky, corny, campy and amusing. I thought it was a Monty Python skit.

My Favorite line

Mohammed Follower, to another: “ Mohammed is gay? But Is he...dominant, or submissive?”

Mohammed, overhearing the conversation: “BOTH!”

Hilarious!


5 posted on 09/13/2012 12:52:49 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: SERKIT

“Dirka Dirka Muhammad Jihad!”


6 posted on 09/13/2012 12:53:44 PM PDT by dfwgator (I'm voting for Ryan and that other guy.)
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To: Uncle Miltie; pnut22
To lightly paraphrase pnut22:

Barack spends a week bragging that he killed Osama.
People storm an embassy saying we are all Osama.
The media blames a movie no one has ever seen or heard of.

7 posted on 09/13/2012 12:53:54 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1333 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama, a queer and present danger)
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To: Uncle Miltie
One of the actresses who says she was tricked into being in the film says Bacile told her on set that he was Egyptian, and that he spoke Arabic to other men present.

Or is it agitprop; designed to do just what it has done? Nothing surprises me anymore !!!

8 posted on 09/13/2012 1:16:37 PM PDT by snowtigger (.)
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To: null and void; Uncle Miltie; pnut22

> Barack spends a week bragging that he killed Osama.
> People storm an embassy saying we are all Osama.
> The media blames a movie no one has ever seen or heard of.

In my opinion, most voters will not be able to connect the dots between the three sentences above.


9 posted on 09/13/2012 1:20:47 PM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: Jyotishi

*sigh* You are, of course, correct.


10 posted on 09/13/2012 1:24:12 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1333 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama, a queer and present danger)
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To: Uncle Miltie

Either way, someone that isn’t an American posted a film on the internet. What’s that have to do with our embassy’s?


11 posted on 09/13/2012 1:30:59 PM PDT by The Toll
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To: Uncle Miltie
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"The operation behind this film appears to be extreme Egyptian Copts who want to discredit the Morsi government and create a provocation," journalist Max Blumenthal told Al Jazeera on Wednesday.

"They oppose the revolution and are aligned with Christian right groups who have an apocalyptic, theocratic agenda and who are inciting against Muslim-Americans," Blumenthal said.

"They put Muslims in the US in danger, they put Copts in Egypt in danger, and they're putting US diplomats in danger."


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Totally the Right-Wing Copts' fault!


Ahhh.... Max (son of "Sid the Squid") Blumenthal, Mr. "Teabaggerteabaggerteabagger", mixes in -- it's those damned Copts!

But don't forget the Amish, they're even worse.

Pennsylvania Amishmen are behind this whole thing, I promise!

I'm sure we can trust Max and The Daily Beast to get it right and tell it straight.

12 posted on 09/13/2012 1:37:02 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: MNJohnnie

How did an obscure film titled either “Innocence of Muslims” or “The Real Life of Muhammed” lead to the emotional and violent ramifications playing out now in Egypt, Libya, Tunisia and other places in the Muslim world?

All planned...The stupid little movie was really made by pond scum sympathetic to the destruction of America. It could have been influenced by anyone who hates America....Just fill in the blank with the usual suspects.
Globalists, Greenies, Anarchists, liberals, Muslims, The French...etc. etc.


13 posted on 09/13/2012 2:19:40 PM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: SERKIT

14 posted on 09/13/2012 2:21:52 PM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: SERKIT

achmed-

15 posted on 09/13/2012 2:22:57 PM PDT by Foolsgold (L I B Lacking in Brains)
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To: Uncle Miltie

Don’t assume the guy is a Copt. See:

http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012/09/12/nakoula-a-copt-says-nakoula/

Nothing he says can be trusted given his conviction for bank fraud, and he fits the pattern of an Islamic hate crime faker, i.e., he very well might be Muslim.


16 posted on 09/13/2012 2:33:21 PM PDT by Thud
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To: Uncle Miltie
"Reports indicate that all the film's religious references were actually dubbed after the original shooting."

Mmmm, no. The actor for Big Mo looks like he's entirely in on the joke, and frankly he does a good job with the role. It's a weird, funny little movie. I can see how it got under the muzzies skin.

17 posted on 09/13/2012 3:02:02 PM PDT by StAnDeliver (2008 + IN, NC, FL, VA, OH, NE1, IA = 272EV)
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To: Uncle Miltie

How did obscure film inflame the ME?

Because it sounds better than saying: “The Muslims are pissed at 0bama for spiking the football at the DNC and claiming he killed Bin Laden dozens of times”?


18 posted on 09/13/2012 3:25:31 PM PDT by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (Go Egypt on 0bama)
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To: Uncle Miltie

I must be tired. Why is everyone going after Terry Jones if all he did was promote the film? And why him and not Morris Sadek?


19 posted on 09/13/2012 5:48:54 PM PDT by DancingMyRainbow
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To: Uncle Miltie

I must be tired. Why is everyone going after Terry Jones if all he did was promote the film? And why him and not Morris Sadek?


20 posted on 09/13/2012 5:50:27 PM PDT by DancingMyRainbow
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To: MNJohnnie
You can see the blatant coordination of coverage. All the usual Progressive Fascists Democrats in the “news” media are using the same words and talking points

We look at these Jihadist mobs and wonder how a group of people can be so easily (mis)led and be so unthinking in spewing garbage and lies.... and then we see the progressives in our own media, and we can see the very propaganda techniques that make it happen.

21 posted on 09/15/2012 12:38:17 AM PDT by WOSG (REPEAL AND REPLACE OBAMA. He stole America’s promise!)
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To: MNJohnnie
You can see the blatant coordination of coverage. All the usual Progressive Fascists Democrats in the “news” media are using the same words and talking points

We look at these Jihadist mobs and wonder how a group of people can be so easily (mis)led and be so unthinking in spewing garbage and lies.... and then we see the progressives in our own media, and we can see the very propaganda techniques that make it happen.

22 posted on 09/15/2012 12:38:29 AM PDT by WOSG (REPEAL AND REPLACE OBAMA. He stole America’s promise!)
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