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NBC/WSJ Poll: Obama Gains in Battlegrounds Ohio, Fla., Va.
Newsmax ^ | 13 Sep 2012 | Patrick Hobin

Posted on 09/13/2012 6:05:13 PM PDT by Publius804

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To: Publius804

Don’t these idiots know that we look at the internals now because they have lost all credibility? Apparently not.


51 posted on 09/13/2012 6:54:59 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: oyez

“Wonderful. We are going to have 4+ more years of this stumble bumb.”

Regrettably, I sense you’re correct, regardless of the other remarks in this thread that ignore the message while attacking the messenger.

Ohio and Virginia are bellwethers, and Romney is faring poorly in both of them.

I sense the core of the problem isn’t so much Romney per se, but the more troubling reality that like other “battleground” states, both OH and VA are on the verge of “tipping” to the blue side, as Colorado has recently done.

If that’s the case, it’s going to be tough for the Republicans to win the presidency again without them.

Remember back here on FR two years ago?
“The dog catcher could beat Obama.”
“The dog could beat Obama.”
“A ham sandwich could beat Obama.”

What the heck happened?


52 posted on 09/13/2012 6:57:35 PM PDT by Road Glide
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To: Publius804

“Obama has a double-digit lead over Romney as to who would better handle foreign policy.”

Now I know this poll was a joke.


53 posted on 09/13/2012 7:11:51 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: DarthVader

LOL! Dims over sampled by 18, they must be trying to fool themselves. We will by a landslide.


54 posted on 09/13/2012 7:12:26 PM PDT by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: Publius804

This is the poll I answered Tuesday and I`m disappointed.

Romney has a lot of work ahead of him these last few weeks. We still have a shot at this if we put aside our misgivings about Romney and turn out en masse on election day. There`s no room for apathy or stay-at-home disgruntlement...not this time.

Come Nov 6, this is it. More has never been at stake for the heart and soul of America. If 0bama is somehow defeated, America lives to fight another day. If not, it`s game..set..match...and we`re done as a country.

Pray for a miracle ...pray for some kind of implosion by Obama...pray for Romney to have three flawless debates.. and pray for turnout like we`ve never seen ever before.


55 posted on 09/13/2012 7:14:31 PM PDT by ScottinVA (If Obama is reelected, America will deserve every mockery that follows.)
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To: DarthVader

Where did you see the sampling demographics?
I couldn’t find it in the article, maybe I overlooked it.


56 posted on 09/13/2012 7:18:31 PM PDT by Reily (l)
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To: Red Steel
Had to do some looking. This poll over sampled Democrats by about +10%, under sample Republicans by -2%, and under sampled Independent by - %8 using Rasmussen’s party ID trends reported on Sept 1st. NBC/WSJ/Marist Florida 2012 Presidential Poll “Survey of 1,352 registered voters, including 980 likely voters, was conducted September 9-11, 2012. The margin of error is +/- 2.7 percentage points among registered voters; +/- 3.1 percentage points among likely voters. Party registration (among registered voters): 42% (43%) Democrat; 36% (35%) Republican; 22% (21%) Independent. Party registration (among likely voters): 41% Democrat; 38% Republican; 20% Independent. Ideology (among registered voters): 34% (34%) Moderate; 30% (29%) Conservative; 18% (19%) Liberal; 12% (12%) Very conservative; 6% (6%) Very liberal. Ideology (among likely voters): 33% Moderate; 31% Conservative; 18% Liberal; 13% Very conservative; 5% Very liberal.”

Terrific stuff. Many thanks.

57 posted on 09/13/2012 7:23:06 PM PDT by Radio Free Tuscaloosa (God Bless...America!! - Adm. Jeremiah Denton)
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To: funfan
don't watch them at all even Fox can't take it anymore. Drudge, Free Republic and talk radio only for me!

Yep. Same here. Rush, Levin, FR, Drudge.
58 posted on 09/13/2012 7:24:46 PM PDT by nhwingut (Sarah Palin 12... No One Else)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Heh, yeah, right. Partisan media shills ping. Thanks Publius804.


59 posted on 09/13/2012 7:26:04 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Road Glide
Ohio and Virginia are bellwethers, and Romney is faring poorly in both of them

Nope. The professional polls such as Rassmussen show Romney tied or ahead in both.

Polls are some of the easiest statistical measurements to manipulate. The problem here is too many people want to treat all polls as equal. They aren't. There are serious polls and junk polls. NBC/Marxist is an example of a junk poll.

2008 Presidential Election

The following list ranks the 23 organizations by the accuracy of their final, national preelection
polls (as reported on pollster.com)

.
1. Rasmussen (11/1-3)**
1. Pew (10/29-11/1)**
2. YouGov/Polimetrix (10/18-11/1)
3. Harris Interactive (10/20-27)
4. GWU (Lake/Tarrance) (11/2-3)*
5. Diageo/Hotline (10/31-11/2)*
5. ARG (10/25-27)*
6. CNN (10/30-11/1)
6. Ipsos/McClatchy (10/30-11/1)
7. DailyKos.com (D)/Research 2000 (11/1-3)
8. AP/Yahoo/KN (10/17-27)
9. Democracy Corps (D) (10/30-11/2)
10. FOX (11/1-2)
11. Economist/YouGov (10/25-27)
12. IBD/TIPP (11/1-3)
13. NBC/WSJ (11/1-2)
14. ABC/Post (10/30-11/2)
15. Marist College (11/3)
16. CBS (10/31-11/2)
17. Gallup (10/31-11/2)
18. Reuters/ C-SPAN/ Zogby (10/31-11/3)
19. CBS/Times (10/25-29)
20. Newsweek (10/22-23

60 posted on 09/13/2012 7:30:56 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: funfan

Gee if Obama let’s more diplomats get killed maybe Obamas poll numbers will surge more.
++++++++++++++
Unfortunately, that may be the case. Gotta support the Prez in a time of crisis when American lives are at risk. Just think about it, do you really think the Jihdists want to welcome President Romney next January.

We should learn a little about which way things are going to move from Rasmussen’s Friday poll. Romney is up by one today. Will that lead grow or shrink tomorrow?


61 posted on 09/13/2012 7:46:12 PM PDT by InterceptPoint (.)
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To: Publius804

MSM and the pollsters are ignoring the absolute loathing for Barry everywhere. I do mean loathing and disgust; I do mean everywhere.


62 posted on 09/13/2012 8:13:29 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: The Wizard

So true. I don’t see Barry taking Florida or NC. Romney is gaining in Ohio also.


63 posted on 09/13/2012 8:13:35 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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If the Turd in the Punch Bowl wins re-election, it can ONLY be due to the fact that America’s dependency class has grown large enough that it will continue to keep leftists in power for perpetuity. And THAT will be another step toward civil war.


64 posted on 09/13/2012 8:14:07 PM PDT by Arkansas Toothpick
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To: Publius804

Poll the audiences after watching 2016!! Those sitting on the fence aren’t sitting on the fence any more.


65 posted on 09/13/2012 8:15:19 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Publius804

Serious question: Why of all newspapers does the Wall Street Journal affiliate with this joke of a poll?


66 posted on 09/13/2012 8:23:50 PM PDT by BlueStateRightist
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To: BlueStateRightist

The editorial page of the WSJ is right of center. The news media wing is the typical far Left product of “journalism” schools.


67 posted on 09/13/2012 8:27:33 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: chris37

Romney is running a very poor campaign. These polls are correct and very disheartening. Pat Caddell said that Romney’s campaign the worst ever campaign he’s seen. Romney needs to fire his campaign manager.


68 posted on 09/13/2012 8:28:29 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: InterceptPoint
I was being a smart alec when I said that I do not want that to happen or people to be hurt or killed. It is sad we have President who in my opinion does not care about the citizens he is on a one man wrecking crew trying to undermine the US. Obama is a bad man with malice in his heart this is what his actions tell me.
69 posted on 09/13/2012 8:33:30 PM PDT by funfan
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To: The Wizard
Also don't state polls usually lag a little behind national polls. Obama’s bounce ended a day or two ago but the state polling probably still showing his bounce.

It's amazing to me anyone would vote for Obama again except for the fact they wanna give the first black Prez another chance.
You know in our Oprah like mushy country this mentality cannot be ruled out.

70 posted on 09/13/2012 8:42:51 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: Steelfish

Well, I’m going to agree with that.

I’d like to believe that the polls are being weighted in favor of Obama. It’s possible that they are, but it is also possible that they are not.

The safe assumption to make is that they are accurate, and then proceed as if they are indeed accurate with regard to Romney’s campaign.

We have a man who is so dangerous to world stability as president right now.

I am literally walking around fearful everyday of what is about to happen.

Am I going to wake up tomorrow and see mushroom clouds?

Maybe.

Am I going to wake up tomorrow and see Russian warships in the Gulf of Mexico firing upon us? Maybe.

Now you may think, that’s preposterous! If it happened, what the hell is this little, pissant president going to do about it besides run and hide?

As far as I am concerned, after what has happened in the past few days, President Obama and his entire administration need to be impeached, tried and sent to prison.

As far as Mr. Romney goes, I have only this to say. Mr. Romnery, the entire world is now at stake. The fate of mankind is on your shoulders, sir. Fight as you have never fought before and as you never thought you would have to.

Fight!


71 posted on 09/13/2012 9:25:28 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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