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Uh oh: Chinese ships sail into Japanese waters near disputed islands
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Posted on 09/13/2012 7:47:17 PM PDT by TigerClaws

Twitter is blowing up over this as I’m writing. The best thing I can do to get you up to speed is send you to this nifty Foreign Policy precis of the standoff. Nutshell version: Japan says the islands, which it calls the Senkaku, belong to it. (In fact, the Japanese government formally purchased them from their private owners just two days ago, partly to prevent them from being bought by Japanese nationalists and developed to spite China.) China says that the islands, which it calls the Diaoyu, actually belong to it per post-WWII agreements. The U.S. is obliged by treaty to defend Japan if it’s attacked; on the other hand, the agreements China’s citing to stake its own claim to the islands were authored by the U.S. Time for the Foreign-Policy President and Hillary to huddle. Quickly.

Two eternally rival nations, one a rising power and the other fading, locked in a territorial dispute that stems in part from the last time they went to war with each other. What could go wrong?

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While the US is distracted... Before Romney is elected (we hope!)...
1 posted on 09/13/2012 7:47:24 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: TigerClaws

I predicted this...


2 posted on 09/13/2012 7:49:59 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: TigerClaws
This is exactly the kind of power play for which Hillary and the Usurper are totally unprepared. Neither one knows anything about China or the issues of the Pacific basin.
3 posted on 09/13/2012 7:51:09 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: TigerClaws

The distraction the Chinese have been waiting for is occurring in the ME. Hold tight, this could be a very bumpy ride.


4 posted on 09/13/2012 7:52:28 PM PDT by SueRae (See it? Hell, I can TASTE November from my house!)
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To: TigerClaws; TigerLikesRooster; AmericanInTokyo; Pan_Yan; Travis McGee

ruh-roh?


5 posted on 09/13/2012 7:54:34 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: TigersEye

Pei Ping.


6 posted on 09/13/2012 8:11:09 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: hinckley buzzard

Of course it is questionable if Japan would resist, but if they were to, the Chinese would be in for a severe shock. Japan possesses what is probably the second most effective maritime force in the world and a naval tradition to go with it.


7 posted on 09/13/2012 8:14:18 PM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: TigerClaws

Has the Obama campaign and MSNBC (I know, there’s no diferrence) blamed Bush or Romney yet?


8 posted on 09/13/2012 8:17:12 PM PDT by Skywarner
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To: Jet Jaguar

Ping.


9 posted on 09/13/2012 8:20:38 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Skywarner

Don’t forget Congress. They can always blame Congress whenever convenient.


10 posted on 09/13/2012 8:21:37 PM PDT by virgil
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To: xkaydet65

Japan would also fight for the islands for the fishing rights around it and the mineral rights to the sea bed under it.


11 posted on 09/13/2012 8:23:21 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: TigerClaws

All hell is breaking loose. Can’t a man just campaign and golf?


12 posted on 09/13/2012 8:24:48 PM PDT by Pinkbell
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To: TigerClaws

PLAN subs always skulking around down there, the PRC has also been pilling this kind of stuff in the Spratly Islands also.

Someone will get their eye put out —been brewing a long time.

Japan just signed a deal to operate UAVs off of Guam, which legally is a huuuuge deal in post-war Japanese history.

I have been keepin my eye on this for a long time.

VN and the PRC had a 4 day navy battle over this in 1976 or so..


13 posted on 09/13/2012 8:25:51 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: hinckley buzzard

Send Joe .... he can handle it:

BIDEN: I’m supposedly an expert on foreign policy. Well, you know, an expert from where I come from is anyone from out of town with a briefcase. I do not have a briefcase.


14 posted on 09/13/2012 8:26:22 PM PDT by MissMagnolia (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. (M.Thatcher))
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To: Pinkbell
“All hell is breaking loose. Can’t a man just campaign and golf?”

Now there is a great idea for a billboard. RNC, are you listening?

15 posted on 09/13/2012 8:27:17 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Encourage all of your Democrat friends to get out and vote on November 7th, the stakes are high.)
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To: TigerClaws
Ruh-Roh! Sounds like Obama needs his special hotshot adviser:

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16 posted on 09/13/2012 8:37:16 PM PDT by Dogbert41 ("...The people of Jerusalem are strong, because the Lord Almighty is their God" Zech. 12:5)
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To: Pinkbell

And the basketball season will be starting soon!!


17 posted on 09/13/2012 8:39:21 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: TigerClaws

China recently took some other islands close to Vietnam and others, yet, closer to the Philippines.


18 posted on 09/13/2012 8:43:18 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96)
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To: MissMagnolia

My fear—Our enemies are in Cahoots. They might plan something together to act in concert. On same day—Iran attacks Israel, Egypt attacks Israel, North Korea attacks south Korea, China moves on her islands or attacks Taiwan, Cuba hits Jamaica, Russia moves on Georgia or Belarus. Then what do we do?


19 posted on 09/13/2012 8:43:51 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: TigerClaws

After reading the article we made a promise after WW2. Taiwan was also in that agreement.


20 posted on 09/13/2012 8:46:33 PM PDT by badpacifist (Obama and the media ....a love affair with mutual gay sex.)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

Good time for enemies to make a move while Obummer is distracted so I think your scenario is a realistic one. What to do? Help Israel if possible and other than that, hunker down and defend our shores.


21 posted on 09/13/2012 8:59:40 PM PDT by MissMagnolia (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. (M.Thatcher))
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To: aquila48

True that. He’s got enough on his plate, and you know how Michelle feels about a lot on the plate.


22 posted on 09/13/2012 9:01:14 PM PDT by Pinkbell
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To: TigerClaws

He’ll blame Republicans.


23 posted on 09/13/2012 9:06:54 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

Friends in Taiwan tell me they don’t expect our help.
South Korea can burn for all I care. We use our resources to help Israel and Georgia.


24 posted on 09/13/2012 9:10:48 PM PDT by MarMema (freedom for Amir)
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To: TigerClaws; All
After America, Armageddon.
25 posted on 09/13/2012 9:18:27 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: Army Air Corps
Time for the Foreign-Policy President and Hillary to huddle. Quickly.

Aw naw! Will this nightmare ever end?

26 posted on 09/13/2012 9:18:27 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

easy!

Obama would send out several strongly worded letters with checks enclosed for a billion each.


27 posted on 09/13/2012 9:26:46 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: TigerClaws
Are they Chinese ships or Taiwan coast guard?

Asian nationalism rising at sea

28 posted on 09/13/2012 9:56:08 PM PDT by MarMema (freedom for Amir)
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To: xkaydet65
Japan has been very aggressive about fishing and I do think they are about to get a comeuppance...

Ma urges trilateral talks on Diaoyutais

29 posted on 09/13/2012 9:59:14 PM PDT by MarMema (freedom for Amir)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

Obama will want to weigh all options and think about it for 48 hours and then after a round of golf make a hard and crucial decision.


30 posted on 09/13/2012 10:01:12 PM PDT by Blue Highway
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To: TigerClaws

To make things even more ... ahem ... interesting ... there are some higher ups in chicom politburo (or whatever they call it) who have gone mising - in fact one of these is like the heir apparent and their 10 year cycle of choosing new leaders is very close. So who knows - Interesting Times.


31 posted on 09/13/2012 10:09:31 PM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten

Matthew 24

New International Version (NIV)



As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately. “Tell us,” they said, “when will this happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?”

Jesus answered: “Watch out that no one deceives you. For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am the Messiah,’ and will deceive many. 6 You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. All these are the beginning of birth pains.

“Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me. 10 At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, 11 and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. 12 Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, 13 but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved. 14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.



32 posted on 09/13/2012 10:26:50 PM PDT by Bratch
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten

Japan should consider a brief visit to Tibet perhaps.


33 posted on 09/14/2012 12:11:41 AM PDT by MarMema (freedom for Amir)
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To: TigerClaws; TigerLikesRooster; AmericanInTokyo; Pan_Yan; Travis McGee; Viennacon; ...
Avoiding DNC, Hillary Clinton gets snubbed in China

Looks like she wasn't avoiding the DNC, she was attempting to prevent the US in having to defend Japan.

34 posted on 09/15/2012 6:13:10 AM PDT by GregNH (If you are unable to fight, please find a good place to hide.)
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To: Nachum

Ping to post #34.


35 posted on 09/15/2012 9:28:20 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade
Iran attacks Israel, Egypt attacks Israel: Lend air and naval support as best we can. Missile strikes on Iranian/Egyptian command centers are not out of the question, although Israel probably has that handled already.

North Korea attacks South Korea: Not much more we can do, but the SK military is very tough. I'm not at all sure China would allow NK to do this - they might take action themselves to defend their big trading partner SK. NK is like a wild dog China likes to use to terrify the neighbors, but they know they have little control over the dog and will put it down if they have to.

China moves on her islands or attacks Taiwan: Nothing we can do in either case. But again, barring a military coup, China's leadership isn't going to mess up the good economic thing they have going just to plant a different flag on a nearby hill. Taiwan will rejoin China within the next 25 years or so, no matter what happens, and Beijing knows it.

Cuba hits Jamaica: Obama wouldn't do anything - but any other President would smash Cuba - fast. That's too close to our borders.

Russia moves on Georgia or Belarus: With Georgia, we try to mediate and stop the fighting as fast as possible - with Belarus, we do nothing: Putin is better than Lukashenko. The US has exactly zero ability to influence affairs in Russia's sphere of influence, and we shouldn't waste resources trying.

36 posted on 09/15/2012 9:48:13 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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