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Analysis: Film at heart of Libya attack may be Fake (Mystery Deepens)
Jerusalem Post ^ | September 13, 2012 | J Post Staff

Posted on 09/13/2012 9:07:33 PM PDT by Arec Barrwin

Analysis: Film at heart of Libya attack may be fake By JPOST.COM STAFF

09/13/2012 03:57

Offensive references to Islam sloppily inserted in post-production; film's cast and crew say original plot unrelated to religion.

Details casting doubt on the authenticity of the controversial film Innocence of Muslims, which sparked protests in Cairo and spurred the Libya attack that killed US Ambassador Christopher Stevens, mounted on Wednesday. A series of facts brought to light by online media such as Gawker, Buzzfeed and blogs on CNN, The Atlantic, and The Christian Science Monitor paint the picture of a possible hoax.

In the film's 14-minute trailer (below), which set off the crisis after it was posted to YouTube, the name Muhammad and anti-Islam remarks are clearly dubbed over the original words, clashing with the film's visual cues. The sloppy editing calls into question whether the Hollywood film was, in fact, really created as an anti-Muslim screed, or simply edited to look that way. Despite an alleged $5 million budget, the production quality of the film is very low.

Those involved in making the film, originally entitled Desert Warrior instead of Innocence of Muslims, denied that the film was meant to have anything to do with Islam, saying they were unaware of any such intentions during the film's production. According to CNN, a statement released by the film's 80-strong cast and crew said they were "grossly misled about its intent and purpose," and were "shocked by the drastic re-writes of the script and lies that were told to all involved."

One of the film's actresses, Cindy Lee Garcia, told Gawker that, as far as she knew, the film was going to be "based on how things were 2,000 years ago," a time period that predates Islam by some 600 years.

"It wasn't based on anything to do with religion, it was just on how things were run in Egypt. There wasn't anything about Muhammed or Muslims or anything," Garcia told Gawker. According to Garcia, the character portrayed as Muhammed was called "Master George" in the script.

Then comes the identity of the allegedly Jewish, Israeli-born director/scriptwriter, Sam Bacile.

As The Jerusalem Post reported, a high-ranking Israeli official in Los Angeles said that after numerous inquiries, it appeared that no one in the Hollywood film industry or in the local Israeli community had ever heard of him.

Steve Klein, a "a self-described militant Christian activist in Riverside, California" who was involved with the film, told The Atlantic's Jeffrey Goldberg that Bacile was not the director's real name, and that he was not Israeli and probably not Jewish either. "I would suspect this is a disinformation campaign," Klein said.

The mounting evidence seems to suggest that the trailer was either a poorly-edited, wild rewrite of the film's original script or a flat out hoax, though no evidence has yet emerged confirming the possibility.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: egypt; islam; islammovie; islammoviefake; libya; mohammed; movie; muslim; rop
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looks like the Muslims are rioting over a hoax
1 posted on 09/13/2012 9:07:42 PM PDT by Arec Barrwin
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To: Arec Barrwin

Wag the Dog scenario.


2 posted on 09/13/2012 9:09:34 PM PDT by JewishRighter
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To: Arec Barrwin

I am really starting to become suspicious.

1. - This could have been done by the terrorists to rile up the masses.

2. Our government is behind this.

Or both


3 posted on 09/13/2012 9:10:56 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Arec Barrwin
looks like the Muslims are rioting over a hoax

Or perhaps THEY created it themselves as a pretext to confuse and divide the West - a strategy which would be succeeding.

4 posted on 09/13/2012 9:11:53 PM PDT by montag813
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To: montag813

One thing is for sure. This video is very mysterious. The situation in the Middle East is deteriorating into a Friday post-prayer blowout. Obama Admin may have been too busy at the DNC to act on intelligence that the attack was coming. Stay tuned, folks. The next 48 hours may be critical.


5 posted on 09/13/2012 9:15:24 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Arec Barrwin

Attacks on U.S. Embassies Were Not About a Movie

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2930356/posts

You may be wondering how some movie no one’s heard of has caused such a hullabaloo. Well, as it turns out, the film was screened on an Egyptian Salafist television channel. Obviously the Salafists — many of whom, like Zawahiri were released from prison by Morsi, wanted to stir up anti-US violence on the eve of 9/11. So if the film is responsible for the violence, a finger needs to be pointed to its chief distributor — Al Qaida’s Egyptian friends and members.

With these facts in hand, it is clear that the attempts to present these acts of war against the US as the consequence of some stupid nothing movie are obscene attempts to deflect the blame for these unwarranted attacks onto their victims and away from their perpetrators.


6 posted on 09/13/2012 9:15:36 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Arec Barrwin
Please folks, don't buy into this hoax. The attack occurred on 9-11. It was carefully planned in advance by an Al Quaeda-related group to exact revenge for Bin Ladin and to stir up more trouble for the U.S.

If anything the film is a hastily-contrived red herring to mislead the media and the gullible. In my bones I know the Muslim Brotherhood not only knew in advance it would happen but was complicit. Obama and Hillary have opened a passageway to Hell and named it the Arab Spring.

7 posted on 09/13/2012 9:15:57 PM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: Arec Barrwin

Basically sounds like somebody did an MST3K-like spoof.


8 posted on 09/13/2012 9:16:41 PM PDT by dfwgator (I'm voting for Ryan and that other guy.)
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To: Arec Barrwin

Could someone have pirated the film and dubbed it over? The history of this film is still murky to me. Could the islamists now be hijacking movies?


9 posted on 09/13/2012 9:16:52 PM PDT by virgil
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To: Arec Barrwin

Could someone have pirated the film and dubbed it over? The history of this film is still murky to me. Could the islamists now be hijacking movies?


10 posted on 09/13/2012 9:16:56 PM PDT by virgil
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To: Arec Barrwin

Iran. Obama got played once again.


11 posted on 09/13/2012 9:17:45 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Encourage all of your Democrat friends to get out and vote on November 7th, the stakes are high.)
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To: RummyChick
I read this article and then immediately find this one. Apparently the Chinese are taking advantage of our distractions in the Middle East to try and strong-arm Japan and seize control of the Senkaku Islands.

Am I reading too much into this?

12 posted on 09/13/2012 9:18:46 PM PDT by Stonewall Jackson ("I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy.")
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To: Arec Barrwin

There were some funky quality changes in the voice tracks.


13 posted on 09/13/2012 9:19:05 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: RummyChick
1. - This could have been done by the terrorists to rile up the masses.

If so, this will be one of those rare pivitol moments in American (and World) History.... A terror cell is able to:

a) Rile up a bunch of college goons (sober, no less..) to rough up a lightly defended ambassy to divert the picture-happy media while

b) simultaneously execute a quasi torture / millitary operation and destroy the official US pressence and outreach in Libya.

I think someone's playing Chess to our checkers....

14 posted on 09/13/2012 9:19:46 PM PDT by rmccullo
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To: RummyChick

OR the administration knew they ignored the intel and needed a scapegoat. Why not blame a movie and the first amendment?


15 posted on 09/13/2012 9:20:25 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: Arec Barrwin

mustag fire


16 posted on 09/13/2012 9:20:43 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew (oboy)
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To: RummyChick
2. Our government is behind this.

Bingo!

Why did the feds find the guy and point him out so quickly?

Why were our embassies unguarded?

Why weren't they warned of possible danger?

What about the Marines and rubber bullets?

Why is Hillary focusing on the film and not the violence of the muslim extremists?

And so on......

17 posted on 09/13/2012 9:20:43 PM PDT by dragonblustar (Allah Ain't So Akbar!)
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To: Arec Barrwin

No I am sure it is real.

This couldn’t be a cover up of them chanting: “We are all Osama 0bama” in outrage to 0bama spiking the ball at the DNC.


18 posted on 09/13/2012 9:21:00 PM PDT by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (Go Egypt on 0bama)
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To: RummyChick

I opt for both.


19 posted on 09/13/2012 9:21:54 PM PDT by Puckster
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To: rmccullo

It’s a play right out of the CIA.

Perhaps the terrorists learned something from us.

After all, Obama’s mentor -Zbigniew Brzezinski was responsible for funding the Mujahadeen.


20 posted on 09/13/2012 9:23:49 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: smokingfrog; FARS; no-to-illegals; All

There is another article on this subject posted at FR a few minutes ago which strongly implicates Zawhiri who pointed out that his second in command al-Libi had been killed by the US.


21 posted on 09/13/2012 9:24:15 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: Arec Barrwin

Bttt.


22 posted on 09/13/2012 9:26:12 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (My greatest fear is that when I'm gone my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them)
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To: RummyChick

Its his project from our Whtie House.

This arab spring thing is just one of Obama’s orchestrated, choreographed and conducted projects in building and consolidating his North African caliphate. Being muslim, he knows exactly what he is doing, and at America’s expense.

Strategically, his goal was to encapsulate Israel. Soon they will take a run at it and if they find it easy going, then they will take another run at America.

Worst part? Obama has a penchant for dictators and “rulers” and the alien/muslim feels the same should be for America. It will be a bitch prying his ass from the White House. I believe he will attempt to hang on to power at any cost.

It is also way too sad that we have the Worlds Greatest Ghazi!..... operating from our White House!


23 posted on 09/13/2012 9:26:38 PM PDT by himno hero (hadnuff)
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To: Arec Barrwin

The film could be “black” propaganda perpetrated by any number of culprits—the Russian FSB, Iranian intelligence, Hamas, al-Quaeda, etc.


24 posted on 09/13/2012 9:27:40 PM PDT by Fiji Hill (Deo Vindice!)
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To: Arec Barrwin

Same thing happened with the Mohammed cartoons; some radical muslims created some very crude cartoons and told their followers that they appeared in the Danish newspaper.


25 posted on 09/13/2012 9:28:27 PM PDT by Squawk 8888 (Tories in- now the REAL work begins!)
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To: Arec Barrwin

Do I detect a schmeer of Ploufe on the Axelrod?


26 posted on 09/13/2012 9:29:19 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: Arec Barrwin
Set up by Valerie Jarrett and David Axelrod to make Obaama look "tough"?

Maybe he really is a foreign Muslim.

Because mere stupidity, even that powered by a Harvard Law School degree, cannot account for all this...he makes Carter look positively masculine.

Cheers!

27 posted on 09/13/2012 9:29:45 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: rmccullo

Stonewall Jackson might be onto something. The Chinese seem to be making a move on some Japanese islands while the world watches this incident, and you know how it works in those waters. Get up on a rock and shake a harpoon, and the island is yours. We may have multiple players on this chessboard.


28 posted on 09/13/2012 9:30:04 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: himno hero; Fiji Hill

What Good Can a Handgun Do Against An Army?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2312894/posts


29 posted on 09/13/2012 9:30:56 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: dfwgator

More like a “What’s Up Tiger Lilly?”


30 posted on 09/13/2012 9:32:07 PM PDT by Tex-Con-Man (T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII 2012 - "Together, I Shall Ride You To Victory")
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To: Arec Barrwin

What the **** are we witnessing here...


31 posted on 09/13/2012 9:33:35 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Arec Barrwin

the world has seen a lot of true leftist colors in this country because of this


32 posted on 09/13/2012 9:34:39 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: JewishRighter

I wonder if this was a deliberate act to rile up the muslims so it would make it very difficult for Israel to attack Iran?


33 posted on 09/13/2012 9:35:47 PM PDT by dragonblustar (Allah Ain't So Akbar!)
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To: Fester Chugabrew
mustag fire

Let me guess either your horse or your car is burning.

34 posted on 09/13/2012 9:37:19 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: Viennacon

Back in the days of trying to overthrow an Indonesian Leader- someone came up with a plan to try to make the leader look bad.

A Hollywood A-List star and his brother were brought in to make a fake porno tape of the leader. They weren’t in the tape. They produced it.

It might be a lot easier these days with the internet to create bedlam.


35 posted on 09/13/2012 9:38:03 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

It sounds like something China could cook up, but all this to distract us while they go after some rocks? It could be Iran, making the whole region too unstable for Israel to risk an attack. If the rest of the Islamic nations are hyped up on extremism, they would strike Israel if they bomb Iran, either through their governments, or as independent terrorists.

As I opined. This isn’t Al-Qaeda’s game. They’ve taken a clear shot in a moment of chaos, as is to be expected, but the video and its elusive creator is too much of a weird factor in this thing.


36 posted on 09/13/2012 9:43:59 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: ElkGroveDan

i happen to know your reading comprehension is better than that, but understand how the eyes play tricks when it comes to the prited word.


37 posted on 09/13/2012 9:44:00 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew (oboy)
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To: Arec Barrwin

I wonder if this wasn’t a disinformation operation combined with a money scam. Sounds like something the Russian mob/Ex-KGB would pull with it’s usual ham-fisted finesse. Ham-fisted, just look at the production values and finesse in that it appears to be a good I.D. cover-up and a clean get away.


38 posted on 09/13/2012 9:58:30 PM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again")
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To: Viennacon

The stupid video was just an excuse. I agree the next 48 hours could be critical. Things are getting dicey.


39 posted on 09/13/2012 10:13:16 PM PDT by Conservative4Ever (The Obamas = rude, crude and socially unacceptable)
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To: gleeaikin
courtesy ping, gleeaikin, and Thanks.
40 posted on 09/13/2012 10:15:49 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: Fester Chugabrew

Then you tell us what a “mustag” is because it sure as hell doesn’t make sense to me.


41 posted on 09/13/2012 10:16:56 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: Stonewall Jackson

To answer your question ... my best guess is no.


42 posted on 09/13/2012 10:18:30 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: ElkGroveDan

mebbe Münzenberg + Reichstag - a little and scramble= mustag


43 posted on 09/13/2012 10:21:36 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Viennacon
We may have multiple players on this chessboard.

yep, multiple players, multiple outcomes, and the first false flag has been flown by the children in the WhiteHut.

44 posted on 09/13/2012 10:23:00 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: Arec Barrwin

courtesy ping, and Thanks.


45 posted on 09/13/2012 10:25:53 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: JewishRighter

Sounds like the Clintons. They were always good at faking movies and sound bites.


46 posted on 09/13/2012 10:37:01 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Arec Barrwin

The DNC made the film.

The maker doesn’t even exist.


47 posted on 09/13/2012 10:40:47 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Republican pizza man who only votes for democrats - what's his Freeper name?)
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To: Arec Barrwin

These are the facts as I know them:
“Sam Bacile” doesn’t exist at all.
The claim that 100 Jewish donors contributed $5 million to make such a low-quality movie is a lie,
I have a strong suspicion that the real makers of this movie are Islamists, who wanted to provoke riots against Americans and blame it on an “Israeli Jew”.


48 posted on 09/13/2012 11:00:04 PM PDT by NorthernRight (Liberalism is a mental disorder - Socialism is a mental illness!)
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To: Arec Barrwin

These are the facts as I know them:
“Sam Bacile” doesn’t exist at all.
The claim that 100 Jewish donors contributed $5 million to make such a low-quality movie is a lie,
I have a strong suspicion that the real makers of this movie are Islamists, who wanted to provoke riots against Americans and blame it on an “Israeli Jew”.


49 posted on 09/13/2012 11:00:15 PM PDT by NorthernRight (Liberalism is a mental disorder - Socialism is a mental illness!)
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To: Viennacon
This video is very mysterious.

I have yet to see this video. Anyone have a link?

50 posted on 09/13/2012 11:01:29 PM PDT by nutmeg (I'm with Sarah Palin and Ted Cruz: "ABO"/Ryan 2012)
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