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State Objections Board to determine if Obama is eligible to be on Kansas ballot
LJWorld ^ | 9/13/2012 | Scott Rothschild

Posted on 09/13/2012 9:33:45 PM PDT by Elderberry

Topeka — The State Objections Board — made up of Lt. Gov. Jeff Colyer, Attorney General Derek Schmidt and Secretary of State Kris Kobach, all Republicans — has decided it will need an additional meeting to determine if President Barack Obama is eligible to run for president in Kansas.

On Thursday, the board considered a ballot challenge to Obama's eligibility from Joe Montgomery of Manhattan, who claims the president is not a U.S. citizen because Obama's father wasn't. Montgomery has also challenged Obama's birth certificate from Hawaii.

The Objections Board said it needed more information before deciding the matter. The board will meet again Monday.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: certifigate; naturalborncitizen

1 posted on 09/13/2012 9:33:49 PM PDT by Elderberry
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To: Elderberry

I’m not a gambler, but I would be willing to bet the outcome will be in Obass’s favor.


2 posted on 09/13/2012 9:43:43 PM PDT by doc1019 (Turn Medina into a glass parking lot and all this crap will stop.)
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To: Elderberry

Well, at least its something. Hopefully inspiration for others.


3 posted on 09/13/2012 9:43:57 PM PDT by the anti-liberal
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To: Elderberry

Even MS-DNC viewers are about to hear about Minor vs. Happersett.


4 posted on 09/13/2012 9:45:01 PM PDT by InMemoriam (I feel like a WWII Cossack trying to pick a side.)
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To: Elderberry
Carefully note the multiple grammatical conundrums and weird parsings in this post. E.G., the conflation of "citizen," with "Natural Born Citizen."

....claims the president is not a U.S. citizen because Obama's father wasn't....
Montgomery has also challenged Obama's birth certificate from Hawaii.

Could be boolshiite. In fact, the state authorities would be fully within their rights to take him off the ballot until their doubts are answered.

5 posted on 09/13/2012 9:46:10 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Obama = Allende.)
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To: Elderberry

Zero doesnt have a chance at winning Kansas anyway, so it doesn’t matter much. No other states have to follow Kansas’ example or allow their decision to stand as precedent in any future cases elsewhere.


6 posted on 09/13/2012 9:46:30 PM PDT by Two Kids' Dad ( Paul Ryan / Rage Monkey - 2016)
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To: Elderberry

Yea Kansas!


7 posted on 09/13/2012 9:47:04 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: Elderberry

MSM still persuing a Saul Alinsky tactic. Obama is more than likely a citizen, however the quailty of that citizenship fails the “Natural Born Citizen” requirement to hold the office of POTUS as per Article II of the Constitution.


8 posted on 09/13/2012 9:52:07 PM PDT by Forty-Niner (The barely bare berry bear formerly known as Ursus Arctos Horribilis.)
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To: Elderberry

MSM still persuing a Saul Alinsky tactic. Obama is more than likely a citizen, however the quailty of that citizenship fails the “Natural Born Citizen” requirement to hold the office of POTUS as per Article II of the Constitution.


9 posted on 09/13/2012 9:52:13 PM PDT by Forty-Niner (The barely bare berry bear formerly known as Ursus Arctos Horribilis.)
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To: the anti-liberal

I am aware of filings in Indiana, Mississippi, and Georgia.

The more the better.


10 posted on 09/13/2012 9:53:41 PM PDT by Elderberry
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To: Elderberry
Word is getting around that foreign nationals can now be President so long as they are Democrat. These individuals for example are running. This is the Oghnxiqut/Xortistqurt ticket.


11 posted on 09/13/2012 10:14:21 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools we will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: Elderberry

I’ve seen this movie several times before. Pigs will fly before he is removed from a single state ballot.

That fix is still ironclad.


12 posted on 09/13/2012 10:15:36 PM PDT by Ronin (Dumb, dependent and Democrat is no way to go through life - Rep. L. Gohmert, Tex)
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To: Elderberry
His Dad says . . .
13 posted on 09/13/2012 10:19:13 PM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again")
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To: Kenny Bunk
Carefully note the multiple grammatical conundrums and weird parsings in this post.

Could be the writer is unfamiliar with all the ground he needs to cover to report this issue.

Newbies on BC threads, I promise you, are liable to be overwhelmed by the whirlwind of Supreme Court opinions, expert documentarian opinions, press releases from the Regime, and naturalization and renaturalization issues that are present in a typical eligibility-themed thread.

14 posted on 09/13/2012 11:41:22 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
This is the Oghnxiqut/Xortistqurt ticket.

Yeah, but are they vegan?

15 posted on 09/13/2012 11:43:18 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Elderberry
Kansas will not elect Obama anyway. It's a red state.
16 posted on 09/13/2012 11:49:47 PM PDT by jarofants
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To: Elderberry

He doesn’t need Kansas to win.


17 posted on 09/13/2012 11:52:52 PM PDT by Tzimisce (THIS SUCKS)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Opening line: “Hey nice hat. You look like you work out.”


18 posted on 09/14/2012 12:38:47 AM PDT by ponygirl (Be Breitbart.)
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To: Elderberry

Go on, Kansas. Just do it. Wouldn’t it be fun?


19 posted on 09/14/2012 2:37:44 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: Elderberry

I’ve checked 5 states so far. none have any proof on record for any candidates that prove they are eligible for office

keep in mind, you must be a citizen to hold any elected federal office

demand they get proof.

demand such things as birth certificates be OFFICIALLY submitted

anyone that attests to someone being eligible for office, yet never saw any proof, is participating in/ committing election fraud


20 posted on 09/14/2012 3:13:35 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Elderberry
If the reporting is ACCURATE, this guy, Joe Montgomery of Manhattan, will lose and the Board will have to allow Barry on the Ballot.

It reads that his beef is that Barry "isn't a citizen" because dad wasn't. That's wrong, momma was ergo so is Barry. But O'Dummie is not a 'Natural Born Citizen', and THAT should be what the challenge is about as we all know that takes Both Parents (similar reason why Rubio can never run for POTUS or be VEEP).

But who can tell if this article is even correct. STOO-PID,Sloppy, and Wrong, is now the rule of 'journalism'. Just write some words, the facts be dammed.

21 posted on 09/14/2012 5:53:46 AM PDT by Condor51 (Si vis pacem, para bellum.)
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To: Elderberry

This cannot be right!

“who claims the president is not a U.S. citizen because Obama’s father wasn’t”

The correct assertion is that Obama is not a Natural Born Citizen, which requires birth to parents who are both US Citizens and has since 1790. The US Senate, in 2008, applied this when confirming John McCain eligible for the Presidency because he was born to two US Citizens under US Jurisdiction, ergo a Natural Born Citizen. They even referred to the original LAW that the Founders wrote to define Natural Born Citizen so we would know what it means.

The Democrat-controlled Senate could not give Obama the same resolution of eligibility precisely because he cannot meet the conditions. His Father was a foreigner at the time of his birth (and never became a Citizen, which is irrelevant), therefore Obama can’t legally be President.

The Founders wrote this law to minimize the chance someone becoming President was not handed foreign loyalties or ideologies by either parent and that no foreign nation could have legal claim over the person.

Obama is a Citizen under 8 USC § 1401, “Nationals and Citizens at Birth”

He is NOT a Natural Born Citizen, which is a more restrictive class of citizenship required by the Constitution for Presidential eligibility.

His occupation of the White House is a coup.


22 posted on 09/14/2012 11:51:03 AM PDT by Speak2Truth (The Man in Black)
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To: Speak2Truth
His occupation of the White House is a coup.

Team Obama has undoubtedly researched this very carefully. Yes, we can now prove the BC is a fake;that the SS # and the Draft Registration are bogus, and that's on top of failing to meet the traditional definition of a Natural Born Citizen.

But there is no mechanism for certifying this; no court to which the evidence can be taken. No state actually has a law on the books requiring a candidate to provide a BC.

This is not a question of finding Obama in violation of any statute. This is a matter of a state official being alerted to all these evidentiary doubts, and then doing his job by removing the doubted candidate from the ballot until the man can prove otherwise. If the person removed from the ballot doesn't like it, he can always sue and bring his proof to court.

Kind of simple really. Team Obama must be made the plaintiffs, and our loyal constitutional officers the Defendants. Not the other way round.

When I can tell you authoritatively what I think a Natural Born Citizen is, and another FReeper can tell you the opposite, the country is in trouble because the courts, especially the Supremes, have seized every shabby opportunity to avoid the cases rightly brought before them.

23 posted on 09/14/2012 8:48:56 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Obama = Allende.)
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To: Kenny Bunk

Finally, someone who understands this.

The US Senate has the duty of certifying eligibility as well as impeachment. The Democrat-controlled Senate performed this duty when doubts were raised about the eligibility of John McCain. They examined the details of his birth then confirmed that, according to the Founder’s own Law defining Natural Born Citizen status, he qualified:

“...as evidenced by the First Congress’s own statute defining the term `natural born Citizen’ ... Whereas John Sidney McCain, III, was born to American citizens on an American military base in the Panama Canal Zone in 1936: Now, therefore, be it Resolved, That John Sidney McCain, III, is a `natural born Citizen’ under Article II, Section 1, of the Constitution of the United States.” - Senate Resolution 511

Note: The Panama Canal Zone was under US Jurisdiction until the Torrijos-Carter treaty of 1977. The FIRST requirement, stated in the law and confirmed for McCain, is birth to American Citizens.

“And the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond Sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born Citizens” - Naturalization Act 1790

The term “may be” denotes possibility. There are no conditional statements in front of “children of citizens of the United States”. That is an absolute.

In 2008, the Democrat-controlled Senate performed its duty in certifying one candidate yet refused to do so when the other candidate also apparently had problems with eligibility. The DNC shielded their man from vetting by providing him with lawyers to fight off anyone who tried to get him vetted. Those attempts began in mid-2008 with a Democrat attorney named Philip Berg. The response to his demands that Obama’s eligibility be confirmed were quite revealing:

“Instead of satisfying Plaintiff and the general public’s concerns regarding Obama’s citizenship status, or lack thereof, Obama and the DNC have chosen to litigate the matters in lieu of providing what should be simple proof. Defendants have filed two [2] Motions to Dismiss and a Motion for a Protective Order instead of simply solving the matters and providing the proof verifying Obama’s citizenship status.”

Judge Surrick dismissed the case without resolving the question, finding that Berg lacked standing to bring the suit because he did not face direct harm even if the allegations were true.

And that’s how it has gone in just about every court - punting the issue by claiming that the plaintiff is not personally harmed even if Obama illegally took office.

They went so far as to court-martial Lt. Col. Terry Lakin, who tried for two years to get the military chain of command to simply demonstrate that the guy acting as Commander in Chief was doing so legally. They could not. He upheld his oath to defend the Constitution and was sent to prison for it. That’s how far this coup has gone in consolidating power. Not even our military will defend our Constitution now.

As you say, they have dodged and evaded this matter. But why? The simple answer is, FEAR OF CONSEQUENCES. They are painfully aware of what the Left will do to this nation if their man is pulled from office and arrested. It’s the same reason John McCain refused to contest blatant Democrat voter fraud when Obama “won”. It’s the same reason the MASSIVE VOTE FRAUD THIS ELECTION won’t be contested as well. It’s how Hitler and other Leftists attained power - with the threat of mob violence should they be stopped. And that’s how the Communists got their people into undisguised control of our government.

In 2008, John McCain Ignored Vote Fraud to Avoid Civil Unrest
http://wizbangblog.com/2012/04/26/in-2008-john-mccain-ignored-vote-fraud-to-avoid-civil-unrest/

“After discussions with his inner circle, which explains the delay in his speech, McCain decided not to pursue the voter fraud in PA and Ohio, despite his staff’s desire to make it an issue. He said no. Staff felt they could get a federal injunction to stop the process. McCain felt the crowds assembled in support of Obama and such would be detrimental to our country and it would do our nation no good for this to drag out like last go around, coupled with the possibility of domestic violence.”


24 posted on 09/15/2012 11:51:53 AM PDT by Speak2Truth (The Man in Black)
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