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HUD Secretary: Without tax hikes, Latinos will go to the 'back of the line'
The Washington Examiner ^ | 9/12/2012 | Joel Gehrke

Posted on 09/14/2012 10:29:53 AM PDT by heartwood

Congress must raise taxes on the wealthy "because there just isn't enough to go around," Housing and Urban Development Secretary Shaun Donovan told the Congressional Hispanic Caucus Institute today.

"Latino growth has meant that often they're at the back of the line for housing assistance or other things," Donovan said during CHCI's annual Public Policy Conference this morning at the Ronald Reagan Building in D.C. "And the fundamental problem here (in part) is, are we going to continue to invest in those things? And if we continue to cut the budget for Section 8 housing and public housing and a whole range of other things -- if we don't fix this fiscal cliff in a fair way that actually asks higher-income Americans to pay their fair share -- Latinos are going to have to continue to wait in the back of the line, because there just isn't enough to go around. And that's a fundamental problem in our housing system, but it's a much bigger problem that is a huge issue when we make a decision about what our investments are going to be in Congress."

Donovan's remarks should play well among the Latino community if the polling data provided before he spoke holds true about how Latinos believe the deficit and economic crises should be addressed.

"We see an overwhelming percentage of Latinos want to see some amount of tax increases along with cuts," Dr. Matt Barreto of Latino Decisions told CHCI. "The most popular answer [46 percent] was just saying increasing taxes on the wealthy, that they need to pay a little bit more, rejecting the idea that we should only focus on cuts. And another large percentage -- 37 percent -- saying 'yes, tax increases should be part of the solution with cuts.'" Donovan emphasized his call for tax increases. "This is a fundamental choice," he said. "Is everyone going to pay their fair share? Or are we going to balance the budget on the backs of the most vulnerable and our most recent Americans? And, it's simply unfair."


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: ethnicspoils; hud; laraza; pandering; racist; tax; taxation; taxes
More fun activities for Hispanic Heritage Month!

Inviting in millions of people with a different language and culture who will be dependent on the taxpayer and need subsidized housing in perpetuity for themselves and their descendants is an INVESTMENT!

Well, it sure is for politicians, social workers, diversity educators, translators, blockbusting real estate speculators, La Raza sympathizers, and employers who like Third World wages.

The rest of us, not so much.

1 posted on 09/14/2012 10:29:57 AM PDT by heartwood
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To: heartwood

People standing in line to get free housing, aren’t EVER going to be well off financially. Wealth doesn’t come to a people by long lines of welfare. They need to be taught incentive, creativity, competitive edge thinking, and not collective bargaining ploys.


2 posted on 09/14/2012 10:32:04 AM PDT by rovenstinez
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To: heartwood

Same old tire BS


3 posted on 09/14/2012 10:33:07 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: heartwood

There is so much fraud and theft in the HUD programs that you would not even believe it, and it’s a massive program. There are federal, state, and local HUD offices, employees, and beneficiaries, and it’s tailor made for crooks.

Just once, I would like someone to ask why anyone should pay a penny more in taxes when so much of the money Washington gets now is stolen or wasted.


4 posted on 09/14/2012 10:33:39 AM PDT by Pining_4_TX ( The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else. ~)
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To: heartwood

Hopefully, the line is reversed and pointed toward Mexico.


5 posted on 09/14/2012 10:35:29 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: heartwood
Looks to me like they have successfully steered the debate entirely over to the supply side: Taxes. Will we raise taxes, or won't we.

There is very little talk about reducing demand.

6 posted on 09/14/2012 10:35:29 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: heartwood

ALL of the Latinos, or just the ILLEGAL and NON-CITIZEN ones?


7 posted on 09/14/2012 10:36:42 AM PDT by FrankR (They will become our ultimate masters the day we surrender the 2nd Amendment.)
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To: heartwood
These poor latinos.. my MIL(Nordic) elderly and living on her SS applied for section 8 assistance, and she did get it before she passed, however she waited 8 years to get to the head of the line...so every one supposedly starts at the end of the line... but will probably make an exception for latinos.. much like the amnesty program Obama thru his powers passed..
8 posted on 09/14/2012 10:38:46 AM PDT by JoanneSD
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To: heartwood

Why is our government so intent upon sub-dividing Americans into competing groups based on superficial differences in color, race, nation of origin, etc.?

Its getting so da-—ed frustrating!!


9 posted on 09/14/2012 10:39:05 AM PDT by Elsiejay
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To: heartwood
If not raising taxes on productive tax-payers would force Latinos to go to the "back of the line," doesn't that imply that some other ethnic group (I don't know... Maybe - Blacks?) are (unfairly) being allowed ahead of them in line?

Because if someone is being forced to go to the back of the line, then someone else must be privileged to wait at the front.

Regards,

10 posted on 09/14/2012 10:39:24 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: heartwood

Send the illegals back solves two problems. The Federal government just doesn’t get it.


11 posted on 09/14/2012 10:39:29 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: heartwood

HUD Sec declares Latinos to stupid to make it on their own and need Government to pay them. What a racist attitude to hard working people.


12 posted on 09/14/2012 10:40:15 AM PDT by BillT (If you can not stand behind our military, you might as well stand in front of them!)
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To: Pining_4_TX

Yep, my husband and I are thinking about becoming as close to net zero taxpayers as possible - pay off house and land, earn enough for food and health care and necessities, opt out of consumerism. Barter what we can.

As more and more people take that route, earning no more than it takes to get by as they define it, and others get paid under the table because they have the mindset that only fools pay taxes, the rates will ratchet up and up. Things are going to get a whole lot uglier.


13 posted on 09/14/2012 10:42:33 AM PDT by heartwood
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To: alexander_busek
Because if someone is being forced to go to the back of the line, then someone else must be privileged to wait at the front.

This is a good point. Surely, public housing is not doled out based on ethnic or racial groups. It is first come, first served, isn't it?

14 posted on 09/14/2012 10:46:59 AM PDT by Lou L (Health "insurance" is NOT the same as health "care")
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To: heartwood
his morning at the Ronald Reagan Building in D.C. "...if we don't fix this fiscal cliff in a fair way that actually asks higher-income Americans to pay their fair share..."

The irony is palpable. The Gipper is again spinning in his grave having such pronouncements made in a building named after him.

I ALREADY pay MORE than my fair share! Hey, why don't you have the 1/2 of Americans who pay NOTHING pay THEIR damn fair share!

15 posted on 09/14/2012 10:48:21 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (“We can’t just leave it (food choice) up to the parents.” moochele obozo 2/12/2012 (cnsnews))
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To: heartwood

Why do they belong in the line in the first place?


16 posted on 09/14/2012 10:48:35 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: heartwood
Congress must raise taxes on the wealthy "because there just isn't enough to go around," Housing and Urban Development Secretary Shaun Donovan told the Congressional Hispanic Caucus Institute today.

Deduct it from the Foreign Aid packages for any country that contains a burning US Embassy and/or killed/wounded/threatened diplomatic personnel.

17 posted on 09/14/2012 10:49:43 AM PDT by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: heartwood

Section 8 is becoming a total joke. I know of a woman who lives with her boyfriend all the while her own S-8 apartment sits empty. She’s there maybe once a week tops. She keeps it just in case “things don’t work out” with her boyfriend. Meanwhile there’s a 10 year waiting list for people with families trying to get an apartment.


18 posted on 09/14/2012 10:51:57 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: heartwood

what?

should they get a pass and come to the front of the line?

is this stupid, or what?

Blessings, bobo


19 posted on 09/14/2012 10:52:10 AM PDT by bobo1
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To: heartwood

And that’s a fundamental problem in our housing system, but it’s a much bigger problem that is a huge issue when we make a decision about what our investments are going to be in Congress.”


We did not hire the public servants to worry about housing, it is their job to ensure the general welfare of the people by refusing to make stupid laws which hold people back from making a living and providing housing for their families.

Laws i should add that are for no other purpose than to line the pockets of the people who are in this organization of hoodlums called the government.


20 posted on 09/14/2012 10:58:30 AM PDT by ravenwolf
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To: unixfox

Because if 1 member in the entire family is born here.....they qualify for Section 8.


21 posted on 09/14/2012 11:07:55 AM PDT by sheana
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To: freedumb2003

I despise the phrase, “ask higher income earners to pay more”. There is no “asking”. The iron fisted government imposes taxation on pain of loss of property and freedom if you fail to comply. Leftist weasels.


22 posted on 09/14/2012 11:38:28 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: heartwood

“Pay their fair share”. In other words, you have more than I do. And that’s not ‘fair’.

Since when should ‘we’ be obligated to ‘give’ a middle class lifestyle to someone who hasn’t earned it? Of course these folks want a re-distribution of other people’s wealth.

Today they say the ‘wealthy’ should pay more tax. Tomorrow it will be that it’s not fair only the wealthy pay more tax. The middle class should pay their ‘fair’ share.

See where this is going?

NOBAMA 2012


23 posted on 09/14/2012 11:51:36 AM PDT by PatriotCause (Welcome to California, home of the fruits and nuts.)
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To: heartwood

We have to raise taxes on the Makers because the Takers don’t have enough. We have to take more on their behalf.

Time to only have property owners voting again.


24 posted on 09/14/2012 1:16:19 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: PatriotCause

It’s the most evil kind of covetousness.

Not that they want what “the rich” have,
they just don’t want “the rich” to have.


25 posted on 09/14/2012 1:21:10 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working fors)
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To: Secret Agent Man

How bout the elderly Florida couple on Social Security and Medicare, who own a little condo, they get to vote?


26 posted on 09/14/2012 1:33:15 PM PDT by heartwood
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To: heartwood
The American people are at the back of the line, regardless of what flavor they are.

These people in charge have to go; and for once, there needs to be a basement to penthouse purging of government (I almost said federal - but I mean at every level) bureaucrats.

Our side has a habit of not doing that, and nothing ever changes as a result.

27 posted on 09/14/2012 1:41:11 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: heartwood

If they are the ones that pay the property tax bill, they vote.

Nothing is a perfect system. Not in this current life. But some arrangements are far, far better than others. generally people with skin in the game don’t vote to raid their own pockets more.


28 posted on 09/14/2012 2:27:05 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Izzy Dunne

We see a lot of reports about hundreds of billions wasted, yet nothing form the admin to prevent more hundreds of billions being wasted in the future.

Therefore they shouldn’t be trusted with one more dime from anyone.


29 posted on 09/14/2012 2:28:44 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: heartwood

We do the same thing. Only we’re trying to make as much as we can while we can.


30 posted on 09/14/2012 5:37:59 PM PDT by stevio (God, guns, guts.)
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To: heartwood

“Congress must raise taxes on the wealthy “because there just isn’t enough to go around,” Housing and Urban Development Secretary Shaun Donovan told the Congressional Hispanic Caucus Institute today.”

You gotta love how the government comes from the view that the problem is the government not getting enough money, not that it’s spending more money than it can ever hope to bring in while still allowing enough economic growth for them to have something to loot in the future.

Kinda makes you wonder what will happen the day the latter fact comes out and the government can no longer deny it.


31 posted on 09/17/2012 3:22:05 PM PDT by RWB Patriot ("My ability is a value that must be purchased and I don't recognize anyone's need as a claim on me.")
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