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MSNBC's Dyson: 'All Hate Ain't Equal'; 'Horrible' Americans Have 'Fomented Hostility Toward Muslims'
NewsBusters ^ | 09/14/2012 | Ken Shepherd

Posted on 09/14/2012 1:54:30 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Discussing the violent anti-American demonstrations erupting across the Middle East outside U.S. embassies in Arab capitals, MSNBC contributor Michael Eric Dyson put a share of the blame on, well, "horrible" Americans.

It was the "demonization of a predictable minority," in this case Muslims, that was the spark that light the conflagration, Dyson argued on the September 14 edition of the noon Eastern program Now with Alex Wagner. "It's not as if, oh in America, we've resolved this with equanimity and grace," he added, seeking to conflate isolated incidents of hate speech against Muslims inside the United States with the violent response of the Arab street to an obscure low-budget YouTube video.

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"It [the anti-Islam film "Innocence of Muslims"] just exposes our flanks in a very serious fashion," the Georgetown University professor lectured.

Dyson's blame-America-first posture didn't sit well with at least one other panelist.

"Any day you want, on the Internet, [you can] go and find something to be offended about any religion in quite intense and graphic terms," BuzzFeed editor Ben Smith protested, adding that while the film is "offensive," there was "a very specific chain of events" where organizers were planning riots with the movie as an excuse. The bottom line is that "On any given day you can find something like this" to use as an excuse for a riot.

That was too simple an explanation for Dyson, who then turned to the left-wing professor's favorite bogeyman, colonialism.

"What is it, Rosaldo Renato [sic, it's really Renato Rosaldo], the anthropologist talks about imperialist nostalgia, in one sense" where "we destroy countries and then we go weep with them after they've been destroyed," Dyson lectured Smith, before laughably adding (emphasis mine):

Now, you're talking about a chain of events necessarily, that has to focus on what actually happened. But if you draw back a bit, that doesn't account for what America has done, how it has been perceived and understood in a world where it has also fomented, with far more skill and grace, than these so-called barbaric acts that have revealed it. I think we have to have a bit more responsibility in that.

Struggling to contain his laughter, Smith shot back, "Well, sure, but what actually happened does seem like something that you ought to be discussing here," prompting Dyson to double down, "But what happens is what America has done and contributed."

A few moments later, Dyson, an ordained Baptist minister, tripled down, which is where his "horrible" Americans charge came down:

You can find a lot of hate on the Internet. But that ain't all equal. All hate ain't equal. It doesn't target people with the kind of vicious specificity that Muslims have endured in this country since 9/11. So we can't pretend because there could be some anti-Christian stuff that's out there that it parallels what's going on, that, that not only attacks and assaults Muslims but also stigmatizes them in ways that we haven't quite dealt with in our society.

So when we see these kind of conflagrations, we're able to point the finger: oh, how horrible it is. But we're horrible too because we've quietly, you know, fueled and fomented the kind of unnecessary hostility that we ought to take a mirror and look at ourselves.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911; alexwagner; antiamericanism; bensmith; blameamericafirst; definingdeviancydown; guilttripping; islam; islamicrageboy; islamicragemonkeys; jihad; liberalguilt; liberalhatred; michaelericdyson; msnbc; renatorosaldo; waronterror; whywefight
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Full title MSNBC Contributor Dyson: 'All Hate Ain't Equal'; 'Horrible' Americans Have 'Fomented... Hostility Toward Muslims' abbreviated due to excessive length.

VIDEO at link.

1 posted on 09/14/2012 1:54:37 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Drop dead Dyson.


2 posted on 09/14/2012 1:55:35 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Democrats are dangerous and evil. Republicans are just useful idiots.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

All in favor or cranking up the fomentation, say Aye!

I don’t hate them. I do hate the things they do. And I think I share their belief in retribution.


3 posted on 09/14/2012 1:57:15 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: Fledermaus

And the Obama Fascists go marching along.


4 posted on 09/14/2012 1:57:43 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: Fledermaus

OH NOES!!! Did I just hated...?!? ;)

5 posted on 09/14/2012 1:58:06 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

They’re just such good, tolerant people. And everybody else sucks. Nothing’s ever their fault. Always an excuse.


6 posted on 09/14/2012 1:59:21 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (Now a Chick-fil-A customer . . . God bless Dan Cathy)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Moslems have no hostility of their own.


7 posted on 09/14/2012 1:59:41 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: bigbob
All in favor or cranking up the fomentation, say Aye!

Moved and seconded!

8 posted on 09/14/2012 2:00:02 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

9 posted on 09/14/2012 2:00:02 PM PDT by timestax (Why not drug tests for the President AND all White Hut staff ? ? ?)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Funny thing, when you respond to a religious cult that endorses slavery, molesting women, raping children and killing anyone who refuses to submit to them - then YOU are a hater.

Does this idiot realize who the aggressor is?


10 posted on 09/14/2012 2:00:12 PM PDT by Hodar (A man can fail many times, but he isn't a failure until he begins to blame somebody else.- Burroughs)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
The Muslims deserve every bit of hate speech since 9/11. Rather than Obama apologizing to them he should call them out like he tries to do on Romney.
11 posted on 09/14/2012 2:00:21 PM PDT by YukonGreen
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Michael Eric Dyson's shoddy research and narcissistic writing style - as exemplified in Mercy Mercy Me - have fomented hostility among Marvin Gaye fans worldwide.

If he had an embassy I'd be burning a copy of that worthless book on its steps right now while he nervously wiped gravy off some of his chins.

12 posted on 09/14/2012 2:00:52 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

FoamingMental Dyson..


13 posted on 09/14/2012 2:01:08 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (I will fear no muslim))
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

anti-muslim terrorism is rampant, we have been chopping off far too many muslim heads and committing mass rape against muslims as ethnic cleansing....

oh hang on...

It’s MUSLIMS doing those things.


14 posted on 09/14/2012 2:01:19 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Fledermaus

Maybe mobs of shouting Christians should burn Mosques and Egyptian Flags—step on Korans and pee on them as a response? We can be as crazy as they are! Nope—not in our Christian concepts—Its hard to keep emotions from raging—Americans should do something-—Sometimes I think a violent response is needed. How about boycotting all Arab shops and restaurants? Tossing Bacon into Mosques?


15 posted on 09/14/2012 2:01:22 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Oh please Dyson us Christians put up with this crap from the media, hollywood, and now the White House on a daily basis. You don’t see us storming buildings and raping and assassinating diplomats.

Has nothing to do with “horrible Americans”, it has everything to do with these subhuman bloodthirsty feral dogs and their made up religion of violence and Satan.


16 posted on 09/14/2012 2:01:46 PM PDT by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Hostility? Wait until we get our own Beslan. You’ll see HOSTILITY putz!


17 posted on 09/14/2012 2:01:50 PM PDT by The Toll
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

The cult of Islam should be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.


18 posted on 09/14/2012 2:02:26 PM PDT by CodeToad (Be Prepared...They Are.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Mr Dyson you sir are an IDIOT.
islam is a religion of hate oppression and death.
The muslims hate America and Western Civilization and if they ever got control it is morons like you that they would behead first.


19 posted on 09/14/2012 2:03:17 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for e an the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: bigbob
I don't hate the Muzzies either, but I sure do fear them! My husband fought them in Morocco during the cold war.
20 posted on 09/14/2012 2:04:28 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: The Toll

From the events of today, that day may growing close.

I’m surprised it hasn’t already happened.


21 posted on 09/14/2012 2:04:40 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: SECURE AMERICA
and if they ever got control it is morons like [Dyson] that they would behead first.

So the glass is half-FULL, then! ;)

22 posted on 09/14/2012 2:05:16 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Look for the universal symbol of islam. The bacon and the butthole.

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23 posted on 09/14/2012 2:06:40 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Did not read the article. Posting leftest/Marxist propaganda is counter productive. Why give Marxists hits on a conservative web site? Who gives a damn what they have to say. Ignore them.


24 posted on 09/14/2012 2:06:55 PM PDT by jpsb
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

I have a great idea.

Let’s send Dyson a one-way ticket to Egypt. He can wade into the middle of the riot and apologize.

He won’t need the return ticket.


25 posted on 09/14/2012 2:07:49 PM PDT by Gamecock (We don't come to Christ to be born again; rather, we are born again in order to come to Christ. RCS)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
I can see the usefulness of these anal-retentive, juvenile diversions.. comedy for one. But doggone.. retention of feces is not healthy it's about time to Void the bowels of the MSM!
26 posted on 09/14/2012 2:08:27 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

The reason why liberals adore Muslims so much and defend them is because they hate America just as much as they do, its that simple. Liberals see themselves in Muslims, Anti American, Anti Israel


27 posted on 09/14/2012 2:09:02 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: jpsb
Why give Marxists hits on a conservative web site?

Unfamiliar with NewsBusters and/or its mission? "Exposing and Combating Liberal Media Bias."

The work they're doing is absolutely vital.

28 posted on 09/14/2012 2:10:06 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

This dip has a short memory:

Iran hostage crisis
1982 Beirut bombing
1993 World Trade Center bombing
USS Cole bombing
9-11-2001 World Trade Center/Pentagon bombing

I know I am missing more. Radical Islam, and I am no longer convinced there is non-radical Islam, is evil. We have our warts and shortcomings, but you absolutely pi$$ somebody off eventually if you keep trying to kill them . . . and that would be us they are trying to kill. So I think a little hostility is righteous and in order.


29 posted on 09/14/2012 2:10:15 PM PDT by RatRipper (Obama, YOU LIE!!! . . .again and again and again and again, ad infinitum. . . .)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

I don’t actually spend much time thinking about islam but about the only thing I ever want to hear out of a muslim is his last breath. islam is a global virus.


30 posted on 09/14/2012 2:11:11 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Hopey changey Low emission unicorns and a crap sandwich)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Pipe down Dyson. I haven’t yet called for the rounding up of the muslim(small m unsed to denote disrespect) population. That could be a good 18-24 months out. Until then shut your jihad hole.


31 posted on 09/14/2012 2:11:27 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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To: Fledermaus
Michael Eric Dyson put a share of the blame on, well, "horrible" Americans.

I'd like the opportunity to meet Dyson and "OFFEND" him in a very real manner! I'd show him just how horrible Americans can be!

32 posted on 09/14/2012 2:12:15 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty ("Get that evil, foreign, muslim, usurping bastard out of MY White House!" FUBO GTFO!)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Pipe down Dyson. I haven’t yet called for the rounding up of the muslim(small m unsed to denote disrespect) population. That could be a good 18-24 months out. Until then shut your jihad hole.


33 posted on 09/14/2012 2:13:34 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Disgusting. A bunch of low life criminal gangs who are poor, stupid, lazy, illiterate, dirty, and using religion to do violence against all they envy and don’t understand. these gutter snipes are just like our inner city “youthsssss” who are in a gang terrorizing people. Except instead of doing it for drugs and drug money these dirt bags pretend it’s for some higher good.

The libs love these animals mainly because white left wing elitists love any brown poor person/people they can exploit and use for some greater cause: destroying evil western society as we know it, and destroying Christians.


34 posted on 09/14/2012 2:18:02 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Hey Dyson .. ESAD


             

35 posted on 09/14/2012 2:18:59 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: CodeToad
I want every, every, every muslim and their seed be forceable removed from our shores. Those POS are a curse on America! Why do our “leaders” Kiss their $ss.
36 posted on 09/14/2012 2:20:17 PM PDT by tiger63
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Opps, sorry Newsmax does good work, I screwed up, please forgive me.


37 posted on 09/14/2012 2:21:51 PM PDT by jpsb
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Dyson is just another laughably pathetic leftist who has gotten rich off blaming America for the world’s ills.


38 posted on 09/14/2012 2:22:33 PM PDT by driftless2
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To: jpsb
I screwed up, please forgive me.

Done, and done. ;)

39 posted on 09/14/2012 2:23:00 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: cripplecreek

” . The Bacon and the Butthole. “

I see a best selling novel here....


40 posted on 09/14/2012 2:30:12 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: Fledermaus

Dyson is just the average MSM coward trying to ingratiate himself with islam.

The reason these MSM pukes are pro-islam is that they are afraid to be otherwise for fear that they may get an assignment to a muslim country and then they will be toast.


41 posted on 09/14/2012 2:38:06 PM PDT by 353FMG (The US Constitution is only as effective as those who enforce it.)
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To: wideawake
Save your breath. Dyson is the "affirmative action on steroids" poster child. Like the inimitable "Skip" Gates at Harvard, no one even cares what he says, he's just a checkoff on the annual President's Report to the Diversity Committee.
42 posted on 09/14/2012 2:38:35 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Let’s be perfectly clear. For Dyson the words “horrible Americans” means one thing and one thing only: white people. Every single problem in the history of the world can be laid at the feet of white people. Period.

And it is the greatest of ironies that the ONLY country that can realistically be referred to as a “melting pot” is now reduced to being mere shorthand for “white people” in the language of racists like Dyson.


43 posted on 09/14/2012 2:51:56 PM PDT by newheart (At what point does policy become treason?)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Minority? Last I looked there were like 2.2. billion of them in the world and they are trying to assimilate us.

Dyson is a self loathing moron.


44 posted on 09/14/2012 2:54:36 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: bigbob

Aye!

Dyson is 100% wrong. Horrible Americans have allowed terrorist extremism to fester and thrive for far too long, because they fear offending anyone. Cue Edmund Burke.

“If you want to know who controls you, find out who you are not allowed to insult.”

Who controls you, Mr. Dyson?


45 posted on 09/14/2012 3:05:08 PM PDT by generally (Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: Fledermaus

Only in America, where brave hero’s fought and died so that morons who live free, make good money and have the freedom to spew their un-american garbage, can these types get away with this baseless trash.

I’ll b et if this a-hole turn around you would not see any chain holding him back from leaving America and moving to Iran where that type of comment would have him hanging from a tree before daybreak.


46 posted on 09/14/2012 4:21:18 PM PDT by chiefqc
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

MSNBC is so whacked out that I have to wonder if some of it is an act. There are some real whackos on that station..


47 posted on 09/14/2012 4:36:27 PM PDT by cardinal4
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

If it had been up to me, 6 months after 911, there wouldn’t have been enough Muslims left to pick the fleas off of 100 camels.


48 posted on 09/14/2012 4:42:12 PM PDT by Gator113 (I would have voted for NEWT, now it's Ryan and the other guy.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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“...and destroying Christians...”

The Communists (Progressives) and the Muslims have the same objective in mind. They’re two allies, in it together, looking to destroy the Christian Church and eliminate its influence. (They all have the same stance; arrogance, the pretense of intellectual superiority, and disdain for non-Progressives.)

IMHO


49 posted on 09/14/2012 5:11:21 PM PDT by ripley
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GTH, Dyson. Drag your pathetic ass downtown and contemplate the bullshit that flows from your grossly offensive mouth.


50 posted on 09/14/2012 5:14:53 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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