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EDITORIAL: Islamist explosion not over film
The Washington Times ^ | September 14, 2012 | Editorial

Posted on 09/14/2012 4:32:41 PM PDT by jazusamo

There is no rational justification for irrational mob violence

Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton is emphatic that the anti-Islam video “Innocence of Muslims” is “disgusting.” This happens to be what most Americans feel about our flag being desecrated. For some reason, foreign governments don’t heap praise on the United States and its traditions every time their people commit acts of disrespect toward us. U.S. politicians could learn from their example.

In belated remarks Thursday marking the end of Ramadan, Mrs. Clinton expressed official disapproval of the film which has been blamed for the latest wave of anti-U.S. violence in the Muslim world. She made a reasonable point that people shouldn’t respond with violence when their religion is denigrated. Unfortunately, though, we aren’t dealing with reasonable people. Islamists don’t care about the Western tradition of tolerance, To them, it is one of our country’s many faults.

Mrs. Clinton has stressed that the U.S. government had nothing to do with the film, but this point is irrelevant. It didn’t matter to the extremists that the four Americans slain in Libya probably never heard of the movie clip. To the bloodthirsty mob, an American is an American. All are equally guilty; the four in Libya were simply available.

Wissam Buhmeid, commander of Libyan security forces in Benghazi, admitted his men abandoned the Americans to their fate because of the supposed insult to Muhammad. “There were definitely people from the security forces who let the attack happen because they were themselves offended by the film,” he said...

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: clinton; islam; obama; terrorism

1 posted on 09/14/2012 4:32:49 PM PDT by jazusamo
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To: jazusamo

Hillary Roddam Clinton is full of hot air like her accomplice Obama


2 posted on 09/14/2012 4:35:36 PM PDT by Ulysse (O)
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To: jazusamo

Can Hillary do a movie review of “Team America” from the perspective of foreign relations and the First Amendment? Maybe she can blame Booosh since it came out in 2004.


3 posted on 09/14/2012 4:35:39 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
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To: jazusamo

America had better prepare itself for its version of Beslan.


4 posted on 09/14/2012 4:37:39 PM PDT by 353FMG (The US Constitution is only as effective as those who enforce it.)
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To: jazusamo
Absolutely right! What did the protester's shout?

"We're all Osamas, Obama"

Nothing to do with the film. However, what reason did Osama/Biden give to re-elect them?

Who really instigated these protests!

5 posted on 09/14/2012 4:38:17 PM PDT by NYer (Without justice, what else is the State but a great band of robbers? - St. Augustine)
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To: jazusamo

It would seem that US ME policy is increasingly being dictated by the likes of Islamic jihadists Barack H. Obama, Valerie Jarrett and, at State, Huma Abedin.

The United States has been attacked from within by the well funded perpetrators of 9/11 (2001 and 2012) Saudi Arabia and Iran.


6 posted on 09/14/2012 4:39:24 PM PDT by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever.u)
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To: jazusamo

In June, the Pew Global Attitudes Project showed that between 2009 and 2012, confidence in Mr. Obama has declined in every region of the world they surveyed. His lowest ratings are in Muslim countries, where his approval is 24 percent and approval of his policies is a scant 15 percent. Mr. Obama can praise the religion of his fathers all he wants, but Muslims just don’t like him.

Read more: EDITORIAL: Islamist explosion not over film - Washington Times http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/sep/14/islamist-explosion-not-over-film/#ixzz26USLYpIN
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I hadn’t read the Pew Global Attitudes Project until now. Makes me smile broadly.

Great article jazusamo.


7 posted on 09/14/2012 4:40:15 PM PDT by bronxville (Margaret Sanger - “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population,)
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To: jazusamo
"There were definitely people from the security forces who let the attack happen because they were themselves offended by the film,"

Given the above it is apparent there is a real film out there that offended some fanatics and contributed to the brutal demise of four Americans. Does not excuse in the least either the incompetence of our State Department or the appeasing tact taken by our Apologizer in Chief.

8 posted on 09/14/2012 4:41:02 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew (oboy)
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To: Ulysse

Amen to that. They’re both grossly unqualified for the positions they hold.


9 posted on 09/14/2012 4:41:43 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo
If Hillary were as smart as she wants us to believe she is, she would be wise to start distancing herself from this ASAP. The more she sides with Obama, the more she is siding against the USA and seriously jeopardizing her chance for the nomination in 2016.

This election is going to be decided by how Zero responds in the the coming days.

10 posted on 09/14/2012 4:49:41 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (Romney was right about the Olympics, but neither the Brits or the Dems will admit it.)
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To: NYer
There's little doubt that these attacks were well planned for weeks and to take place on 9/11 because of Obama thumping his chest at every opportunity saying he killed Osama.
11 posted on 09/14/2012 4:51:57 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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To: Michael.SF.
Agreed, but I'll be surprised if Hillary even tries to run in another four years, she looks terrible and has for some time.

So far Zer0 hasn't responded with anything concrete and doubt he will, I think he's comfortable letting the enemedia cover for him.

12 posted on 09/14/2012 4:58:57 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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To: Ulysse

Full of used food, too.


13 posted on 09/14/2012 5:05:15 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Taranto: "The whole point of the metaphor is that if you can hear the whistle, you're the dog.")
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To: jazusamo
she looks terrible and has for some time.

Some things never change.


14 posted on 09/14/2012 5:07:16 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (Romney was right about the Olympics, but neither the Brits or the Dems will admit it.)
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To: Michael.SF.

LOL! Priceless, you’re so right.


15 posted on 09/14/2012 5:11:44 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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To: 353FMG; Travis McGee
America had better prepare itself for its version of Beslan.

Almost inevitable with the weakness being shown

16 posted on 09/14/2012 5:33:57 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: jazusamo
ARAB SPRING to JIHADIST WINTER by Ollie Obama and Laurel Clinton. A classic.
17 posted on 09/14/2012 5:38:33 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (.)
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To: jazusamo

Being that the consulate was sovereign territory, that we haven’t sterilized a dozen blocks in Tripoli of life in retaliation is a major “tell” on the gutlessness of those running the show here now...


18 posted on 09/14/2012 5:49:42 PM PDT by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: jazusamo

Nothing to see here, move along. Just the Secretary of Appeasement doing her job.


19 posted on 09/14/2012 5:56:33 PM PDT by MCH
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To: jazusamo

Romney better get on this tact and forget being sidetracked about the film causing this crap


20 posted on 09/14/2012 5:59:41 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: bronxville
Mr. Obama can praise the religion of his fathers all he wants, but Muslims just don’t like him.

And his bragging about Getting Osama has put him at top of the Evil Satan list

Secret Service better be on alert
21 posted on 09/14/2012 6:01:56 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: Fester Chugabrew

If a film offends fanatics of islam into revealing themselves or showing their brethren to be too lame to control them, all the more that additional films be made and widely distributed so the people who need killing reveal themselves...


22 posted on 09/14/2012 6:02:16 PM PDT by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: NYer

GM on life support; Terrorism and appeasement are alive and well.


23 posted on 09/14/2012 6:02:19 PM PDT by CDFingers (Liars and Commies and Czars Oh My!)
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To: uncbob

Well said...This is so transparent and the enemedia is coming to Zer0s rescue, Romney should hit this hard.


24 posted on 09/14/2012 6:03:51 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo; devolve; musicman

THIS IS POSITIVELY DISGUSTING

25 posted on 09/14/2012 6:12:07 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Fakistan)
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To: jazusamo
This hasn`t got ANYTHING to do with ANY movie, those vermin simply hate US. Remember when the annual draw moo ham head (look that up on you tube) started? Whats the difference now? Remember this on http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYGM2KMVqd0 so why weren`t those subhuman Neanderthals cr@pping a hemorrhage then?

BTW, pretty damn funny, huh?

26 posted on 09/14/2012 6:16:03 PM PDT by nomad
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To: Axenolith

As a Christian I have a hard time deliberately inciting my neighbor to violence (whether he is an atheist or a Muslim or some other faith). By all I can ascertain regarding this film, it was produced by an individual who had the sole intent of inflaming violence. For all I know it was an Obama operative. It’s still under investigation. The people in the film did not know how it was going to be used. Their words were overwritten in Arabic in a manner to offend. I don’t go for that stuff, no matter who does it.

Nevertheless, I have no problem taking up arms against fanatics who threaten life and property.


27 posted on 09/14/2012 6:17:47 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew (oboy)
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To: PhilDragoo

Another good one, Phil!


28 posted on 09/14/2012 6:27:15 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

I have been looking closely at the Islamic mobs, I see some men who are wearing those white caps and others who don’t. Does anyone know if the white skull caps mean that the wearer is a mullah? Can any Islamic male wear this cap or is it reserved solely for the clergy.


29 posted on 09/14/2012 6:40:10 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: 353FMG
Nothing has affected my bigotry towards Islam more The Beslan Massacre. It astounds me that so many people have never heard of The Beslan Massacre. 9/11 was one thing but when Beslan happened I was incensed. Targeting a School on it's first day of the year, knowing that whole families would be there, was just so out of bounds. Just the thought of what went on causes me to pace back and forth with rage, much like I did on 9/11.

I guess the muzzies figured out theaters where too risky so they targeted a School. One of the few things I like about the Russians and the Chinese is that they know how to deal with radical muzzies. Kill them.

30 posted on 09/14/2012 7:53:14 PM PDT by BBell (And Now for Something Completely Different)
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To: PhilDragoo

31 posted on 09/14/2012 8:46:06 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: BBell

Beslan, the word still makes my skin crawl. My boys go to school where anyone could walk in and start shooting. Oh, there are basic security measures, but they could easily thwarted by a determined individual.

Mass murder of school kids in the name of Allah..*shudder*


32 posted on 09/14/2012 10:05:41 PM PDT by cardinal4
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To: NYer
If you're referring to the OWS protesters, you've got the punctuation wrong.
It should be
33 posted on 09/14/2012 10:41:40 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's simple, fight or die!)
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To: All

It still amazes me how the Clintons lick obama’s boots and kiss his ass. Is it because there is a shadow government who tells them what to do? Or is it because the Clintons sold their souls to the devil and now he’s getting his due.


34 posted on 09/14/2012 10:55:17 PM PDT by Terry Mross
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To: Terry Mross

The democrats have been getting laundered money from Islamic sources for a long time. It started going up a lot when John Kerry ran against Bush.


35 posted on 09/15/2012 2:10:41 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: jazusamo

Some context:
These events were clearly planned for Sept 11 - the date, coordination, and organization of the initial events show clear premeditation and prior planning. Take away: the film is an excuse - not a catalyst.
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Further context, for those who wish to discuss the “strong” rhetorical stance taken by the administration against such outrages as this obscure internet film...
Salman Rushdie:
In 1989 President GHW Bush made a public comment about Iran’s death decree for Mr. Rushdie “deeply offensive to the norms of civilized behavior”
In 1999 was named a Commander of the order of Letters and Arts by government of France.
In2007 Queen Elizabeth dubbed Rushdie a Knight Bachelor for his contributions to literature.
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Fast forward to 2012:
President Obama accepts financial support and refuses to decry the statement of Bill Maher who dubs the Koran “a Hate filled Holy Book”. Indication - President Obama is on the side of religious free speech even when offensive to some.
And yet now President Obama, in his official capacity, apologizes and decries “offenses” caused by individuals exercising their free speech rights. Further his administration opens an investigation into the makers of the film in question. Indication - he puts the opinion of islamist radicals who seek to do harm to America and Americans ahead of the Constitutional rights of Americans.
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To recap - the film is a straw man, a red herring, an excuse upon which the PR gurus of the radical violent islamists have hung their murderous actions as righteous. A previous president when faced with similar hatred and violence stood firm against the savage and uncivilized rhetoric and actions. A sitting monarch knighted an “offensive” author for his bravery and contributions to the arts.
And our current president: he defends public funding of the NEA which routinely and regularly offends Christianity, Mormonism, and other western religions, he accepts political financing from outspoken critics of religion who have said things about islam and christianity both that I dare not repeat on these pages, and then when faced with a true moral decision pint - he apologizes, kowtows, and hides.
When money and domestic political gain are involved - he sides with freedom for all - when he is called upon to make moral judgements and speak from the seat of power - he falls on bended knee, apologizes, and bows in the face of murder, violence, and direct attacks on his country, his government, and his people.
... just my 2 cents ...


36 posted on 09/15/2012 10:52:12 AM PDT by BlueNgold (Have we crossed the line from Govt. in righteous fear of the People - to a People in fear of Govt??)
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To: BlueNgold

Excellent points, good post!


37 posted on 09/15/2012 10:59:26 AM PDT by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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To: Fester Chugabrew
While that comment was posted in hasty anger, regardless, Islam as it is sold by the vast majority of it's most "respected" mouthpieces is a malignancy upon human societies and one that at this point in time I don't see a lot of evidence for moderation or change in it's tenets. My belief is that until it's principle leaders meet and theologically moderate/edit out the coercive political/social aspects of it (most likely only under threat of force) it will continue to grow and torment non islamic societies and the west for the foreseeable future.
38 posted on 09/16/2012 9:38:38 PM PDT by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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