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Who Is Sam Bacile; What Is Terry Jones' Role in the Middle East Attacks?
The Christian Post ^ | 9/14/2012

Posted on 09/14/2012 7:43:48 PM PDT by GVnana

U.S. intelligence officials are still trying to piece together the tragic events of the past few days that led to the unrest in Egypt and Libya and at least four murders. But behind the scenes is Gainesville, Fla., Dove World Outreach Center pastor Terry Jones and a man federal authorities have now identified as a Southern California Coptic Christian by the name of Nakoula Basseley Nakoula, 55, who adopted the persona of Sam Bacile, the man who produced the amateur film titled "Innocence of Muslims" that Muslim extremists say sparked Tuesday's violence that killed Stevens and three others.

Nakoula is currently on probation after being convicted of financial crimes and was the center figure behind the movie that was originally titled "Desert Warrior," an adventure film that supposedly took place over 2,000 years ago. The actors and crew who made the film claim they had no idea it was intended to mock Islam or Muhammad and issued a joint statement after the violence in Libya.>-snip->

From what has been learned about Nakoula, he was convicted in 2009 of fraud after opening a string of bank accounts under different names and transferred bogus checks between them, cashing the checks before they bounced.

But this was not his first encounter with law enforcement. In the late 1990s, he was convicted of manufacturing methamphetamine and sentenced to one year in jail and three years' probation. He was later jailed for another year after violating the term of his probation in 2002.

Before being identified, the man calling himself Sam Bacile told The Associated Press that he was Jewish and Israeli, although Israeli officials had no knowledge or records of anyone by that name.

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Prior to Bacile's identity being revealed, most of the focus has been on Jones and exactly what his role has been in promoting the movie. Jones' burning of the Quran two years ago sparked outrage in the Arab world and has since made him an easy target and excuse for Muslim violence.

Jones told reporters on Tuesday that he had no role in creating the movie but planned to show it at his Gainesville, Fla., church and possibly promote it to a larger audience.

"When we do our activities, when we raise our awareness of the radical element of Islam, we are posing those people absolutely no danger," Jones told an NBC News affiliate. "We are, perhaps, insulting some people, but just because you are insulted, it gives you no right to break into someone's house, go into his yard, kill him and destroy his property. So we should by no means excuse their activities."

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1 posted on 09/14/2012 7:43:50 PM PDT by GVnana
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To: GVnana

Still some unconnected dots. How and why did our government connect Terry Jones with this movie within the very first press reports of the raid?


2 posted on 09/14/2012 7:47:28 PM PDT by GVnana
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To: GVnana

Terry’s a simple scapegoat.

The imam don’t need a real scandal to gin up riots and jihadist attack.

Terry didn’t burn that bible 2 years ago. Later he did without incident if I recall.

There have been jihadist attacks over phony photos of rape and torture and even a mistranslation of some liberal biddy’s essay about the West “raping” the environment and Turkish culture.

So if Terry were to apologize, would the jihadists even get the word that it happened?

You are dealing with misinformation, folks. In the Middle East and in the West.

Almost have to wonder from the rumors circulating about the film if the whole thing was a CIA psy op.


3 posted on 09/14/2012 7:48:11 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Obama likes to claim credit for getting Osama. Why hasn't he tried Khalid Sheikh Mohammed yet?)
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To: GVnana

Terry Jones had the same role in the recent middle east attacks that Oral Roberts had in the Iranian Hostage Crisis.


4 posted on 09/14/2012 7:48:27 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: GVnana

Nakoula Basseley Nakoula. Maybe he’s on George Soros’ payroll as an instrument to create chaos during an election cycle. Or do I have too much tin foil on my head?


5 posted on 09/14/2012 7:53:03 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew (oboy)
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To: GVnana; MinuteGal

The MSM and the Obama Admin are trying to tie Jones into this fiasco when he is totally peripheral to the whole debacle. He did not make the film, and if and when there even is a film, supposedly will upload it to his church’s website to watch. Big whip. His connection to this film is at best tenuous, at worst, barely exists. Yet Jones’ name is thrown out there as red meat by the Christian hating Muslim loving obama minions and MSM of the same ilk.


6 posted on 09/14/2012 7:55:21 PM PDT by flaglady47 (When the gov't fears the people, liberty; When the people fear the gov't, tyranny.)
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To: Fester Chugabrew
No. Not too much.

But how was this connected to Jones so quickly?

7 posted on 09/14/2012 7:56:49 PM PDT by GVnana
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To: GVnana

Same way the CO shooter was connected to the Tea Party so quickly, I suppose.


8 posted on 09/14/2012 7:59:34 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew (oboy)
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To: GVnana

Boy, can you even imagine the violent outbreaks that would occur if the rock worshipers ever read FR?


9 posted on 09/14/2012 8:20:00 PM PDT by Roccus
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To: GVnana

(Who Is Sam Bacile; What Is Terry Jones’ Role in the Middle East Attacks? )
1. Nobody
2. None
The attacks in the middle east are just the continued killing of Americans by muslims out of hatred and fear.
This so called movie is more an excuse given by western meia not willing to admit that islam is evil and responsible for its own actions.


10 posted on 09/14/2012 8:20:57 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: GVnana

They burn Obama in effigy and chant “Obama Obama, we are all Ossama”

Sounds like a reaction to the boasts “bin Laden is dead and GM is alive” to me.

Which would be a huge embarrassment to Da Won


11 posted on 09/14/2012 8:25:08 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: GVnana

Who produced the movie should be of less interest than who dubbed the audio.


12 posted on 09/14/2012 8:27:08 PM PDT by fso301
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To: Roccus

:)


13 posted on 09/14/2012 8:27:52 PM PDT by bronxville (Margaret Sanger - “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population,)
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To: GVnana

Did you know that FBI claimed that the guy who provided arms to the old Black Panthers was working for them.

Something is odd about Terry Jones.

Last time a big deal was made and people called him etc etc etc and he backed down as Muzzies got offended and called for death, etc.

This time he has someone from the Military calling him to back down.

Why don’t we see anything about Generals calling Sam Klein or any of these others associated with the film?


14 posted on 09/14/2012 8:33:00 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: GVnana

This is an effort by muslims and Obama to destroy the first amendment. Fact of the matter is that it DOES NOT matter if these men had ANYTHING to do with the so called movie that is being used as an excuse. The muslim religion demands a caliphate and O wants to give them one...end of story


15 posted on 09/14/2012 8:33:21 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: a fool in paradise

or how about an Obama psy ops so he can gut the first amendment in the name of antional security


16 posted on 09/14/2012 8:34:25 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: a fool in paradise

or how about an Obama psy ops so he can gut the first amendment in the name of antional security


17 posted on 09/14/2012 8:34:52 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: a fool in paradise

or how about an Obama psy ops so he can gut the first amendment in the name of antional security


18 posted on 09/14/2012 8:34:52 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: a fool in paradise

or how about an Obama psy ops so he can gut the first amendment in the name of antional security


19 posted on 09/14/2012 8:34:52 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: a fool in paradise

or how about an Obama psy ops so he can gut the first amendment in the name of antional security


20 posted on 09/14/2012 8:34:52 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Fester Chugabrew

Why do we still not have any pictures of
Nakoula Basseley Nakoula.

He should have mug shots.


31 posted on 09/14/2012 8:34:58 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: GVnana

Bacile is a DNC operative.

He doesn’t not exist.


32 posted on 09/14/2012 8:35:24 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Every conservative knew the attacks were coming... 3.5 years ago when Obama was elected.)
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To: RummyChick

So The Smoking Gun, which quickly obtains mug shots - has none of Nakoula

They have info

But the only pictures up are one from the actor of the film, Clinton, and DOJ logo

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/investigation/nakoula-cooperation-756920

If no one posts a mug shot of this guy..who has been arrested more than once ...that is a HUGE red flag.


33 posted on 09/14/2012 8:41:18 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick
He should have mug shots.

In view of his purported history, I should say so! Suppose he is on George Soros' payroll as a tool to foment international discord. Would "freedom of speech" hold up as a defense?

34 posted on 09/14/2012 8:44:50 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew (oboy)
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To: NoLibZone

Nakoula Basseley Nakoula AKA Bacile.

Nakoula exists in court cases.


35 posted on 09/14/2012 8:45:13 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Nifster
Do you need to adjust your meds?
36 posted on 09/14/2012 8:47:11 PM PDT by TsonicTsunami08
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To: GVnana
I have no respect for muslims who think a video can shame their stupid god. Muslims are not men, not real men. I bet when they open their mouths to speak “meow” comes out.

Their childish tantrums act as baby-wipes for their false god. Their false god that can not defend himself.

I bet they tire of defending their impotent god.

37 posted on 09/14/2012 8:52:42 PM PDT by KittenClaws (You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: GVnana

Muslims always have reason to start rioting. It keeps ideal people busy.
Yesterday, it was Koran, today Movie, then again Koran...


38 posted on 09/14/2012 8:55:03 PM PDT by jennychase
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To: GVnana
I have no respect for muslims who think a video can shame their stupid god. Muslims are not men, not real men. I bet when they open their mouths to speak “meow” comes out.

Their childish tantrums act as baby-wipes for their false god. Their false god that can not defend himself.

I bet they tire of defending their impotent god.

39 posted on 09/14/2012 9:03:21 PM PDT by KittenClaws (You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: TsonicTsunami08

no my connection just went nuts and started throwing out repititions. I will ask the Mods to delete the extras


40 posted on 09/14/2012 9:04:00 PM PDT by Nifster
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Who gives a crap.

If, supposedly, these idiots will kill over a Youtube clip, they’re hopeless.


41 posted on 09/14/2012 9:17:52 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: GVnana

Is Franz Kafka writing the script for our government now?


42 posted on 09/14/2012 9:22:11 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: GVnana

And just exactly why is our government outing this guy...or did they? Do I have that wrong?


43 posted on 09/14/2012 9:37:06 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: GVnana

>> Jones told reporters on Tuesday that he had no role in creating the movie

And yet he got a publicized call from the General.

And to think the writers of 24 were running out of ideas.


44 posted on 09/14/2012 9:42:48 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: GVnana
Who Is Sam Bacile; What Is Terry Jones' Role in the Middle East Attacks?

Sam and Terry are Obama's effort to change the subject so we won't focus on the fact that hit men just killed our ambassador to mark 911.

Neither of them had anything to do with it. The hit men needed a mob to cover their entrance into the consulate. The supposed movie which is really just a stupid you tube was just the cover for the mob which was cover for the hit team.

Now the nonexistent movie does double duty as the Obamists use it as a way to change the subject.

Why didn't the ambassador have a proper security contingent? Terry Jones! Sam Bacile! The people we put into power just killed our ambassador. Terry Jones! Our government is riddled with Muslim Brotherhood. Sam Bacile!

45 posted on 09/14/2012 11:05:03 PM PDT by marron
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To: RummyChick

That’s what I was thinking. Who is this Nakoula? Has he issued any statement? Why hasn’t the press tried to talk to him? Is he locked up in a dungeon somewhere? Is he really a Copt? Who dubbed the film and how was the Egyptian mob made aware of it? I had read that it had been screened on Egyptian TV. Who’s responsible for that? Why was it allowed in a Muslim country if it’s so offensive? It’s still quite a mystery and the govt should be trying to find out since they keep blaming these attacks on the film. Is our govt using the film as a diversion as much as the terrorists? These are all obvious questions that should be answered.


46 posted on 09/15/2012 12:42:05 AM PDT by virgil
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To: RummyChick

The B-3 bomber? Who said anything about the B-3 bomber?

There’s no such thing as the B-3 bomber!


47 posted on 09/15/2012 1:00:32 AM PDT by papertyger
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To: RummyChick
Producer Of Anti-Islam Film Was Fed Snitch

However, Clinton’s attempt to distance the U.S. from “Innocence of Muslims”--and, by extension, its felonious producer--may be complicated by the revelation that Nakoula Basseley Nakoula became a government informant after his 2009 arrest for bank fraud, The Smoking Gun has learned.
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/investigation/nakoula-cooperation-756920

And yes, I think there is something very rotten with Terry Jones. He's just sooo convenient. DNC operative?

48 posted on 09/15/2012 3:44:27 AM PDT by GVnana
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To: GVnana
Still some unconnected dots. How and why did our government connect Terry Jones with this movie within the very first press reports of the raid?

Our government is manufacturing a "case" against Free Speech. They will pursue it to the gates of insanely brazen lies in the attempt to convince enough Sheeple that some curbing of Free Speech is "necessary" for our "common good". That's the real conspiracy of them always blaming a phrase/cartoon/video for the violence instead of fumigating those who commit the violence.

49 posted on 09/15/2012 4:27:13 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: SECURE AMERICA; GVnana

Exactly!

Why are we wasting the time and resources of “US Intelligence officials” to look into someone who is exercising his right to free speech? Hollywood churns out offensive crap on a daily basis and no one there is being investigated.

My answer: Zippy and Hillary need a scapegoat. They need someone to blame for their stupidity, for their abysmal handling of the situation. The really sad part is that I still can’t decide whether this happened because Zippy and his puppetmasters and his minions were too stupid to see it coming or whether this is exactly what they planned to have happen.


50 posted on 09/15/2012 4:34:23 AM PDT by generally (Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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