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To: bossbobcef

That’s great and all, but the numbers don’t add up, especially by 2020. That’s only seven years away. Can we reduce foreign energy dependence? Absolutely. But we will not be totally independent in our lifetimes, now matter whose policy we follow. Sorry for the cold water, but I’m realistic to a fault.


10 posted on 09/14/2012 8:18:38 PM PDT by balch3
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To: balch3
But we will not be totally independent in our lifetimes...

Will you settle for 75% independent by 2020? However, IMO I think it can be accomplished if done on a crash basis and with sufficient incentives.

19 posted on 09/14/2012 8:30:07 PM PDT by luvbach1 (Stop the destruction in 2012 or continue the decline)
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To: balch3

It depends on what you mean by “independent”.

If you limit it to the America’s it should be easily doable.

The vast majority of our oil comes from the US, Canada, Mexico and south America. If I remember correctly that accounts for at least 80% of our total use.

I don’t have a problem buying from Canada or Mexico. I don’t believe Brazil is a problem either.


24 posted on 09/14/2012 8:40:23 PM PDT by DB
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To: balch3

.............That’s great and all, but the numbers don’t add up, especially by 2020..........................

But, realize that the energy companies have already done their seismic testing on thousands of “off bound” areas.

Like ANWR. The oil companies know exactly where the oil is, good estimates as to how much; know where to site their rigs; know how much pipeline to procure to tie into the existing Alaskan pipeline. A shovel-ready project if the government and tree huggers would get out of the way.

Or Canadian oil sands: two to three times the carbon content of just about all oil ever consumed in North America. Just get the infrastructure in place, the pipelines to refineries, and we’re good to go.

Or the Gulf of Mexico. BP capped a huge basin after it breached and caused catastrophic damage because the ground pressure was so great. Punch into that basin, safely, and there’s mucho oil.

Or off the California coast. The greenies closed further development decades ago in reaction to a leakage (not a spill). Open those areas to modern technology and millions of barrels are awaiting us.

All it takes is an understanding that we, and the world, don’t have to bow to the rag-heads for our energy future, and watch the price drop! Just like domestic natural gas.


26 posted on 09/14/2012 8:42:03 PM PDT by Noob1999 (Loose Lips, Sink Ships)
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