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Disgrace in BenghaziAnd a dying superpower’s blundering response.
National Review ^ | 9-14-12 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 09/15/2012 6:55:33 AM PDT by radioone

So, on a highly symbolic date, mobs storm American diplomatic facilities and drag the corpse of a U.S. ambassador through the streets. Then the president flies to Vegas for a fundraiser. No, no, a novelist would say; that’s too pat, too neat in its symbolic contrast. Make it Cleveland, or Des Moines.

The president is surrounded by delirious fanbois and fangurls screaming “We love you,” too drunk on his celebrity to understand this is the first photo-op in the aftermath of a national humiliation. No, no, a filmmaker would say; too crass, too blunt. Make them sober, middle-aged midwesterners, shocked at first, but then quiet and respectful.

The president is too lazy and cocksure to have learned any prepared remarks or mastered the appropriate tone, notwithstanding that a government that spends more money than any government in the history of the planet has ever spent can surely provide him with both a speechwriting team and a quiet corner on his private wide-bodied jet to consider what might be fitting for the occasion.

(Excerpt) Read more at nationalreview.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial
KEYWORDS: 911iilibya; 911iimarksteyn; benghazi; clinton; marksteyn; obama

1 posted on 09/15/2012 6:55:41 AM PDT by radioone
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To: radioone

I do not accept the “dying superpower” connotation here. It is an unled superpower because its leadership is non-existent or, believing the worst that our pResident is an America-hating Muslim hell-bent on devolving our status, working feverishly to undermine it.


2 posted on 09/15/2012 7:00:36 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: radioone

Romney should simply read this at the next press conference.


3 posted on 09/15/2012 7:09:44 AM PDT by ecomcon
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To: radioone
The muslims appear to be desperate to gain as much ground as possible in the next few months...
4 posted on 09/15/2012 7:14:01 AM PDT by ryan71
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To: radioone


5 posted on 09/15/2012 7:16:40 AM PDT by Iron Munro ("In any compromise between good and evil, it is only evil that can profit." - Ayn Rand)
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To: Gaffer

[ I do not accept the “dying superpower” connotation here ]

I do. We elected Obama as our President and are leaning towards doing so again. Definitely “a dying superpower.”


6 posted on 09/15/2012 7:18:00 AM PDT by KansasGirl ("If you have a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen."--B. Hussein Obama)
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To: Gaffer
Well, while this regime is in power we're wasting away.

We're not in good shape here. Socialists have been “educating” our children for a couple of generations, half the population is dependent upon government money and the popular cultural theme for our young adults is the ghetto gangsta style.

Oh, and government has locked up our domestic energy resources, created numerous encumbrances for business and spent us into oblivion.

Contrast the above with 1957. Progress?

7 posted on 09/15/2012 7:21:05 AM PDT by Max in Utah (A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.)
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To: ryan71

“...gain as much ground as possible...”

That is the bottom line! They know they can’t wait till Romney is in office. October is going to be a long month. n/s


8 posted on 09/15/2012 7:22:20 AM PDT by cameraeye (A happy kaffir!)
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To: Gaffer

>> I do not accept the “dying superpower” connotation here.

I sure as hell do.

“Heart failure” is the condition from which we suffer. And if we don’t get that marxist blue-lipped son of a Kenyan monkey the hell out of the white house, like any heart failure patient we’ll die of the disease. We may STILL expire from it even if Romney wins, but at least we have a fighting chance.


9 posted on 09/15/2012 7:22:49 AM PDT by Nervous Tick ("You can ignore reality, but you can't ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.")
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To: Nervous Tick

We need this kind of response

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftTeIVFqZ-g&feature=player_embedded

I laughed at the end where everyone is silent


10 posted on 09/15/2012 7:26:46 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Nervous Tick
From Amazon.com book review:

Optimistic About America’s Future?
Don’t Be.

In his giant New York Times bestseller, America Alone: The End of the World as We Know It, Mark Steyn predicted collapse for the rest of the Western World. Now, he adds, America has caught up with Europe on the great rush to self-destruction.

It’s not just our looming financial collapse; it’s not just a culture that seems on a fast track to perdition, full of hapless, indulgent, childish people who think government has the answer for every problem; it’s not just America’s potential eclipse as a world power because of the drunken sailor policymaking in Washington—no, it’s all this and more that spells one word for America: Armageddon.

What will a world without American leadership look like? It won’t be pretty—not for you and not for your children. America’s decline won’t be gradual, like an aging Europe sipping espresso at a café until extinction (and the odd Greek or Islamist riot). No, America’s decline will be a wrenching affair marked by violence and possibly secession.

With his trademark wit, Steyn delivers the depressing news with raw and unblinking honesty—but also with the touch of vaudeville stand-up and soft shoe that makes him the most entertaining, yet profound, columnist on the planet. And as an immigrant with nowhere else to go, he offers his own prescription for winning America back from the feckless and arrogant liberal establishment that has done its level best to suffocate the world’s last best hope in a miasma of debt, decay, and debility. You will not read a more important—or more alarming, or even funnier—book all year than After America.

11 posted on 09/15/2012 7:37:06 AM PDT by Max in Utah (A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.)
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To: Gaffer

The shell of a superpower with a feckless leader at the helm, while inside the shell, boom-box-trousers-on-the-ground scrabbling in the streets as if all that mattered was how to score... we are a dead and dying society with vultures overhead waiting to celebrate our final offing...


12 posted on 09/15/2012 7:39:09 AM PDT by dps.inspect (rage against the Obama machine...)
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To: RummyChick

>> I laughed at the end where everyone is silent

heh, yeah, me too. Wish we had even ONE pol with that kind of straightforward guts. (Dick Cheney is somewhat close.)

Oh yeah, and Rumsfeld wasn’t bad that way either. :-)


13 posted on 09/15/2012 7:43:12 AM PDT by Nervous Tick ("You can ignore reality, but you can't ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.")
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To: KansasGirl
sadly I must agree with you KG. If we as a nation, are so complacent,and more concerned with the latest iPhones, gadgets, and what not's, we are as the frog who started out in cold water and are now bubbling to a boil.

MY big concern is for the young generation that really doesn't give a hoot about elections and who our leaders are. They have been weaned onto video games and surfboards!

14 posted on 09/15/2012 7:51:37 AM PDT by pollywog ("O Thou who changest not, abide with me.".......)
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To: radioone

Steyn hits another one out of the park. Splendid article that captures the essence and meaning of what happened in Libya.


15 posted on 09/15/2012 7:58:16 AM PDT by kabar
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To: RummyChick

What? No volunteers? Any so-called journalist who would ask such a question is a dickless wonder anyway...


16 posted on 09/15/2012 8:03:54 AM PDT by MarineDad
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To: Gaffer
“I do not accept the “dying superpower” connotation here.”

I see no reason to believe the American civilization is in decline, but am concerned about the current American state.

I've been reading “The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire” and we may have entered a phase similar to that of the Roman Empire circa 0-200 A.D. It's a difficult read (written over 200 years ago in the scholarly lingo of the day) but it does describe some parallels. Religion and its stabalizing moral influence was dying out (even “religious” people just went through the motions), increasing centralization of power as the last vestiges of the Republic die out, corruption and marginalization of the Senate by the Dictators to the point the Senate could no longer function, and the loss of national identity as the coveted title of Roman citizen was bestowed large numbers of people who had little or no loyalty to the state. By 400 A.D., the massive and sprawling Roman Empire couldn't even muster a tepid response to a invasion from the north. The floodgates opened and the end came quickly (in historical terms).

With the compressed time lines of the modern world, we may be stepping through these phases quickly. Assuming a similar development, our next phases would include individual governors declaring sovereignty over their territories, outlying territories attempting to declare union with foreign powers, and a formerly fiercely loyal military corrupted by a growing sense of entitlement (encouraged by politicians vying for their support) beginning to wrestle with the civilian authority for power and control.

Based on this and other historical examples, Jefferson and others may have been right that republics may at best be temporary things that must periodically be refreshed and renewed from the ground up or they devolve into tyranny.

17 posted on 09/15/2012 8:05:37 AM PDT by LaserJock
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To: Excellence

srbfl


18 posted on 09/15/2012 8:07:19 AM PDT by Excellence (9/11 was an act of faith.)
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To: LaserJock

I agree there is significant decline and a troubling penchant of a significant portion of this country to be more concerned with entitlements than responsibility.

What perhaps troubles me more is one or two of the reponses to my post, however. They reek with a pessimism that doesn’t seem to have any bounds. Makes me wonder what would have happened Lexington and Concord had the participants been so filled with it.


19 posted on 09/15/2012 8:10:19 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: radioone

Steyn bump.


20 posted on 09/15/2012 8:22:50 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: radioone
What comes around, goes around. Time to slam Barack Hussein Obama, the current Commander in Chief, with the same "jokes" the Left hurled at President Bush.


21 posted on 09/15/2012 8:27:05 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Obama likes to claim credit for getting Osama. Why hasn't he tried Khalid Sheikh Mohammed yet?)
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To: a fool in paradise

I have a new title for BHO: “Miss Leader”.

Several meanings, all true.


22 posted on 09/15/2012 9:17:25 AM PDT by Max in Utah (A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.)
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To: a fool in paradise

I have a new title for BHO: “Miss Leader”.

Several meanings, all true.


23 posted on 09/15/2012 9:25:33 AM PDT by Max in Utah (A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.)
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To: Gaffer

You say “pessimism” I say realism. Here’s the one thing I read that I haven’t seen posted here on FR:
“Bernard Lewis, the great scholar of Islam, said some years ago that America risked being seen as harmless as an enemy and treacherous as a friend. At the Benghazi consulate, the looters stole “sensitive” papers revealing the names of Libyans who’ve cooperated with the United States. Oh, well. As the president would say, obviously our hearts are with you.”

We have posted here, again before anyone else, that we’re not sure whose side Zero is on.

The point is that we’re running out of allies, of nations that trust us to do the right thing. America is close to being alone. That’s not a tendency on our parts to stress the negative or unfavorable or to take the gloomiest possible view. It’s a fact and as the man said, facts are stubborn things.

In 2012, Eurabia, Israel and all of the others facing determined, murderous muslim religious fanatics, they all look at us—at the things we do and fail to do—and they wonder whose side we’re on.


24 posted on 09/15/2012 9:25:55 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: Gaffer

If we do not get our economy healthy again, in a very short period of time, we will be a dying nation!!


25 posted on 09/15/2012 9:48:20 AM PDT by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: radioone

I don’t know who you think you are linking too but I got blocked content, slow loading and something about online arrest records.


26 posted on 09/15/2012 10:11:17 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Take two Aspirin and call me in November - Obama for Hindmost.)
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To: LaserJock

“...Jefferson and others may have been right that republics may at best be temporary things...”

Plato nailed it almost 2000 years before Jefferson. I reccommend everyone read Plato’s Republic. The book provides a lot of thoughtful insights into the “lives” of governments.


27 posted on 09/15/2012 10:19:39 AM PDT by Owl558 ("Those who remember George Satayana are doomed to repeat him")
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To: Gaffer
I do not accept the “dying superpower” connotation here.

Nor do I, unless, DumBO gets a second term. But, what is needing to be said is that we are going to have to take the same ground again.

28 posted on 09/15/2012 10:36:26 AM PDT by depressed in 06 (6 November, 2012, the day our embarrassment is sent back to Kenya.)
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To: depressed in 06

Agreed. It seems it takes absolute incompetence and near utter despair to shock the moral masses of this country. Let’s hope they still can be shocked into action.


29 posted on 09/15/2012 10:43:12 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: radioone

Discouraging but typically well-written and insightful article by Steyn - and includes one little gem that we should all adopt in the future: he refers to the slime in the MSM as the “court eunuchs”.

I’ll be using that one in the future.


30 posted on 09/15/2012 11:00:40 AM PDT by Stosh
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To: Gaffer

Our country is only as powerful as its leader and right now every raghead Muzzie on earth knows Obastard is a paper tiger.


31 posted on 09/15/2012 3:13:52 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.)
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