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Pay No Attention to the Burning Flags, Stormed Consulates, and Dead Americans . . .
National Review Online ^ | September 14, 2012 2:09 P.M. | By Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 09/15/2012 8:57:47 AM PDT by drewh

One of the ways of understanding the strange nonchalant response of the administration to prior warnings of trouble in the Arab Spring countries, and its contextualization of the violence on the anniversary of 9/11, is its belief that it is somehow separated from the object of the violence.

Raging crowds and Islamic wrath could not possibly be connected to the enlightened Obama administration given the three years of laborious Muslim outreach and the long-ago departure of George Bush.

So we are to think away all those burning flags, stormed consulates, and dead Americans, and instead remember that the violence “is a response,” a sort of cry of the heart against a couple of America-residing video makers — and has nothing much to do with any anger at well-meaning Americans per se.

Apparently no one in charge seems to grasp that this latest video pretext is simply yet another tool, in a long line of many, for premodern Islamists to manipulate and galvanize their fury against the United States, whose success and power obsess them no end — no matter what we do or who happens to be in the White House, soaring Cairo speech and “leading from behind” or not.

for example, Jay Carney’s latest and perhaps most embarrassing explication yet:

"this is not a case of protests directed at the United States writ large or at U.S. policy, this is in response to a video that is offensive to Muslims"

Note to Mr. Carney: Radical Islamists really do not care whether “we” have judged some crackpot video “reprehensible and disgusting.” They have more important aims than distinguishing the Obama administration or its policies from the moronic Terry Jones.

If Jay Carney has any say at all in U.S. policy, then we are in real trouble.

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TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911iivdh; carterisobama; coughlin; emptychair; emptysuit; obamaiscarter; oic; vdh; victordavishanson
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To: Grampa Dave

Some poor guy was trying to hang onto that column for dear life. He had already been injured, thus the bloody fingerprints.

This article also says sensitive documents are missing. What the hell are sensitive documents doing in a building that’s unguarded. Oh, I know! Because this was the easy way obama could give them to our enemies. I firmly believe the four men were sacrificed. If we had a press the guy would be impeached by now.


41 posted on 09/15/2012 2:41:08 PM PDT by Terry Mross
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To: drewh

Today, Monica Crowley was VERY vocal this was most, if not all, the fault of Hussein Obama.


42 posted on 09/15/2012 2:41:47 PM PDT by newfreep (Breitbart sent me...)
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To: newfreep

Photos of aftermath including an empty chair floating in pool.

Bloody hand prints, stolen documents and shocking security failings: Harrowing pictures inside crumbling U.S. consulate in Benghazi after attacks that left ambassador and three others dead

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2202979/Benghazi-attack-U-S-consulate-pictured-Libyan-attack-revealed-officials-knew-attack-plans-48-HOURS-before.html


43 posted on 09/15/2012 2:44:49 PM PDT by newfreep (Breitbart sent me...)
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To: drewh

obama is guilty of murder but those who worship him refuse to acknowledge that he’s not perfect. I believe they really do think obama is their messiah. And that explains the polls.


44 posted on 09/15/2012 2:51:27 PM PDT by Terry Mross
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To: no-to-illegals
 Learn your Spanish, Citizens; as you may need it.
 


For almost seven hundred years, Spain was the battleground for the opposing forces of the Islamic Caliphate and Western Christian forces. Both Muslims and Christian were motivated by religious conviction, which inspired the warfare. The initial Islamic invasion of Iberia was sudden and unexpected. The varied Moorish tribes of Morocco united under the leadership of Arab generals sent by the reigning Umayyad caliph and crossed the Straits of Gibraltar in 711 under the leadership of the Berber Tariq ibn Ziyad. Tariq won a swift victory at the Guadalete and defeated and killed the reigning Gothic king, Roderic.[5] In a campaign lasting eight years, the whole of Iberia was subjected to Umayyad authority, except for the Asturias mountain range in the far northwest and the pockets of resistance in Navarre. The Islamic offensive ultimately paused after the losses it suffered in Frankland and in the Asturias, where battles such as those at Tours and Covadonga showed some of the potential weaknesses of the Arab methods of warfare.[6]

The Islamic conquest was only very slowly undone, over the course of seven centuries in what the Christians of Spain called the Reconquista. Three main forces were involved in this process, the Visigothic holdouts in the Asturias, the holdouts in Navarre and the Pyrenees, and the Franks of Aquitaine. The Reconquista, as a concerted effort to remove the Muslims from the territories they held, commenced in the reign of Alfonso I (739 – 757). Alfonso led an offensive into the valley of the Duero and left the region depopulated, the so-called "Desert of the Duero". For the next century, this prevented any serious Islamic incursions into the Christian territories of the north. During the late eighth and early 9th centuries, the Franks under their Carolingian rulers took up the cause of reconquest along the Mediterranean littoral. By 797, Charlemagne's son, Louis the Pious, captured Barcelona, establishing a clear bulwark against future invasions. The Basques extended their kingdom as far as Nájera, and a widespread repoblación of the depopulated areas began, extending Christian borders southwards.[7]

Despite a resurgence during the 10th century, the Caliphate of Córdoba's attempts to reverse the Reconquista failed, and by the 11th century, Christian Iberia was united under Sancho the Great, the King of Navarre, whilst the caliphate was divided and engulfed by civil war, the period of the taifas. The 11th century saw the development of a concept of Christian holy war, to be waged against Islam with the purpose of the Christians recapturing long lost territories - the Crusade. Crusading, under other names, also took place in Spain; Franks and Normans and even Papal troops took to Spain in increasing numbers to join the locals in their fight against "the Moor." The last threat of the 11th century came in the form of the Almoravids, who with their well disciplined forces first established a hegemony over Morocco and then extended it over al-Andalus. While the Reconquista paused in the west, to the east Alfonso the Battler, the King of Aragon, redoubled efforts to retake the valley of the Ebro. In 1212, the Reconquistadores gained a decisive victory over the Almohads at the Battle of Las Navas de Tolosa. Shortly after the battle, the Castilians took Baeza and, then, Úbeda, major fortified cities near the battlefield, and gateways to invade Andalucia. Thereafter, Ferdinand III of Castile retook Córdoba in 1236, Jaén in 1246, and Seville in 1248; then he took Arcos, Medina-Sidonia, Jerez and Cádiz, effectively bringing the bulk of the reconquista to a conclusion.

 


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_history_of_Spain#Islamic_conquest_and_Reconquista


45 posted on 09/15/2012 3:24:22 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: patriotspride
In many cases our poverty level would be luxury to them.

From what I've seen; it's a luxury to ME!

46 posted on 09/15/2012 3:25:17 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: marktwain
The horrific thing about this is that we have a *minimum* of another four months of this administration to live with.

We DO?






Then IMPEACH!!! tomorrow!

47 posted on 09/15/2012 3:26:58 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: drewh

48 posted on 09/15/2012 3:27:26 PM PDT by timestax (Why not drug tests for the President AND all White Hut staff ? ? ?)
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To: givemELL
If you read the in today’s Indianapolis Star that claimed there is no punishment in the Koran for blasphemy;
you may have been stunned, but that is correct.
 
However, there IS ‘punishment’ found in ISLAM itself for it:
The writer of the letter was being quite ingenuous and deceptive in my opinion.
 



 
in is any irreverent behavior toward holy personages, religious artifacts, customs, and beliefs that Muslims revere. The and the do not speak about blasphemy. Jurists created the offence, and they made it part of . Where pertains, the penalties for blasphemy can include fines, imprisonment, flogging, amputation, hanging, or beheading. may call for the punishment of an alleged blasphemer by issuing a .
 

49 posted on 09/15/2012 3:37:17 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: givemELL
Good links this time...


If you read the letter to the editor in today’s Indianapolis Star that claimed there is no punishment in the Koran for blasphemy;
you may have been stunned, but that is correct.
 
However, there IS ‘punishment’ found in ISLAM itself for it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_and_blasphemy
The writer of the letter was being quite ingenuous and deceptive in my opinion.
 



 
in is any irreverent behavior toward holy personages, religious artifacts, customs, and beliefs that Muslims revere. The and the do not speak about blasphemy. Jurists created the offence, and they made it part of . Where pertains, the penalties for blasphemy can include fines, imprisonment, flogging, amputation, hanging, or beheading. may call for the punishment of an alleged blasphemer by issuing a .
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_and_blasphemy

50 posted on 09/15/2012 3:43:51 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie; All
Unfortunately, the MSM has President Obama’s back, and impeachment is perceived as a political loser by most incumbents.

Hard to see Democrats in the Senate as willing to remove a black president instead of leaving him in office for a couple of months, especially as they will likely be “lame duck” as well.

51 posted on 09/15/2012 4:40:11 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: Elsie

The Ghost of General Lee ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooz3eqWRdlc&feature=related


52 posted on 09/15/2012 8:11:32 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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