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Chaos At The State Dept?
Powerline ^ | Septembe 15, 2012 | Steven Hayward

Posted on 09/15/2012 9:35:44 AM PDT by opentalk

I spoke with a well-placed journalist last night whose sources describe the situation at the State Department in one word: “Chaos.”

The working assumption is that several American embassies may have been penetrated, or are vulnerable to attack, because so many of them rely on local residents for staff needs at the embassy, and as such may be in a position to breach security if they have been recruited by Al Qaida.

...The consulate in Benghazi was an interim facility, with only a standard door lock for security, and worse, Ambassador Stevens was traveling with only a light security detail, rather than in the heavily armed convoys our diplomats in the region usually employ. The attack on the Benghazi was no mere target of opportunity spurred by reaction to the “Innocence of Muslims” film; the film is just a pretext.

The killing of Amb. Stevens was a premeditated hit, planned and carried out as retaliation for the recent drone strike that killed the number two Al Qaida operative in Afghanistan recently. The vulnerability of Stevens at the Benghazi compound was scouted out carefully.

(Excerpt) Read more at powerlineblog.com ...


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1 posted on 09/15/2012 9:35:47 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: opentalk
Hilary must step down immediately.
2 posted on 09/15/2012 9:39:04 AM PDT by oldbrowser (An empty chair attracts a stadium full of empty chairs.)
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To: opentalk

The only thing that wasn’t premeditated is the official response.
They are winding it , and making it up as they go along.
This is obvious , as they are still blaming the film that no one has seen. The fact that Google is keeping it up, online , despite the close relationship they have with Zero, will provide the ‘chaos’ that Zero needs to have more control over the internet.
Check out the “Cyber Security Bill” if you get the chance ..


3 posted on 09/15/2012 9:42:37 AM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (Disclaimer - the opinions above merely reflect the writers restricted ability to observe reality)
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To: opentalk

This is what happens when you put a bunch of immature college “children of the earth” wearing “peace sign” and Che’ T-shirts in charge of foreign policy.


4 posted on 09/15/2012 9:42:44 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The United States of America apologizing to knuckledragging, cavedwelling Neandethals. Whodda thunk!)
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To: oldbrowser
Remember that Hillary detests the military and did not like them around when Clinton was in the White House. In fact, they were ordered not to speak to her should they encounter her in the hallways.

It is very plausible that as Secretary of State, she reduced or eliminated military protection of our embassies and if this is true, she should not just resign but be charged with gross dereliction of duty.

5 posted on 09/15/2012 9:42:46 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: oldbrowser

No, she “cares deeply”... isn’t that more important than competency?


6 posted on 09/15/2012 9:45:33 AM PDT by dps.inspect (rage against the Obama machine...)
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To: opentalk

Chaos at the State Dept.

A redundancy. Barking dogs barking.


7 posted on 09/15/2012 9:45:56 AM PDT by lurk
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To: opentalk

Only an idiot would believe the official media party line that some YouTube video caused all this, and not the non-stop ball spiking at the Dem Convention re “Osama’s dead and GM’s alive, baby!”

But then again, half the US is prepared to re-elect Obama.


8 posted on 09/15/2012 9:46:25 AM PDT by Argus
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To: opentalk
What?? Madam former co-president can't find her ample pompous arse with both hands??? I'm shocked!!

/sarc

The ONE good thing about this muzzie uprising may be we can hang "Barry" and Hildabeast at the same time! This may be a tool sent from Heaven to ensure SHE NEVER AGAIN INFESTS ANY OFFICE!!!!!

9 posted on 09/15/2012 9:46:40 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty ("Get that evil, foreign, muslim, usurping bastard out of MY White House!" FUBO GTFO!)
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To: opentalk

No protection for the Ambasador, yet Valerie Jarrett has 6, or 7, SS agents assigned to her 24 hrs. per day.


10 posted on 09/15/2012 9:47:34 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic (Joe Biden is reported to be seeking asylum in a foreign country so he does not have to debate Ryan.)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

Sean Smith , one of the killed Americans in Bengazi , stated on his “Jabber account” that it was raining mortars as they went up the trail to the safe house.
The route was already “zeroed-in”, and four mortars fell on the trail as they got to the ‘safe house’.

That doesn’t happen by happenstance !


11 posted on 09/15/2012 9:48:01 AM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (Disclaimer - the opinions above merely reflect the writers restricted ability to observe reality)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

Good point.


12 posted on 09/15/2012 9:48:04 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: SamAdams76

I’m hoping that’s a hanging offense?


13 posted on 09/15/2012 9:49:25 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Hey Mitt, F-you too pal)
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To: opentalk

Yes, it was a premeditated “hit” on Ambassador Stevens. The problem is that it appears that it was not just the work of a small “hit squad.” Instead, it looks like the locals were all willing participants. As they are at all the other embassies.

It is Islam’s War Against the West.


14 posted on 09/15/2012 9:49:25 AM PDT by henkster (With Carter, the embassy staff was still alive.)
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To: opentalk

Just like Jimmy Carter, Madeline Halfbright is being vindicated. She just moved up from the worst Secretary of State.


15 posted on 09/15/2012 9:50:42 AM PDT by Harley (The choice for 2012 is clear: Mormon or Moron. I'm going with Mitt.)
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To: opentalk

I have been feeding these guys stories for a couple days. Nice to see they are finally taking the ball and running with it.

Fact 1, I posted a story here that shows only 8 LOCAL security staff were on duty at the time of the attack. The admin claimed 30 I think originally.

Fact 2, there was NO DEMONSTRATION before the assault on the consulate. The security guard interviewed at the hospital said this, Sean Smith who killed at the consulate only stopped playing EVE online when the attack started, he never mentioned any protest, but did mention his fear because he saw one of the local ‘security’ taking pictures with his cell phone before the attack. He only went offline when the attack started, there was never a protest. I also posted a story from a Dr. from Boston who was in Benghazi to take part in a signing ceremony at the local hospital the next day. His associate had spoken with Ambassador Stevens 45 minutes before the attack and the Ambassador never mentioned a protest. The Dr WAS ON THE PHONE with the Ambassador’s attache when the attack began. The attache never mentioned a protest, he just said ‘Oh God’ when the attack started. The Dr, who was at a hotel less than a mile away, then heard explosions as the assault started. These three facts prove the Administration is and was lying about a protest before the attack.

Fact 3..Al Qaeda bombed the consulate on June 6, and posted a Youtube video about it on June 11. I posted that link here too. Security at the consulate was never raised after this attack, the building was not hardened to protect from attacks.

Fact 4...Three days before the attack, the local Libyan security officials WARNED our people there that the security situation was deteriorating, but we did nothing.

Fact 5...When the assault started, the consulate called the embassy in Tripoli begging for help. I think it was an hour before we had people on the ground at the airport in Benghazi to assist with the defense of staff and their evacuation. Our gov’t could only muster SEVEN private American security to help repel the attack.

Fact 6...Academi, the company formerly known as Blackwater, was ready “two months ago” to go to Libya to protect diplomatic assets, a former Bush Administration official and another source say. “No truth to this,” says spokesperson Victoria Nuland.

So we have more than enough facts already to bury Obama, it is just a matter of getting them out before the Administration can bury them in their coverup


16 posted on 09/15/2012 9:52:12 AM PDT by barryobi
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To: opentalk

There should always be, at minimum, a platoon of Marines at least armed w/an assortment of rocket and/or belt fed grenade launching weapons AND heavy belt fed machine guns in addition to their regular squad weapons defending our consulates in Mo-Mo`s lands. Obozo and his @ssclown circus are on the air!


17 posted on 09/15/2012 9:54:48 AM PDT by nomad
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To: opentalk

This is Hillary’s fault. It was a mistake to hire a Secretary of State who doesn’t know anything about foreign policy or different cultures, especially Islam.


18 posted on 09/15/2012 9:55:55 AM PDT by pallis
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To: SamAdams76
gross dereliction of duty

Sam, have come to a conclusion, over the decades of trying to make sense of those who hold the reigns of power. That conclusion is this ... Those who hold power are granted, if I understand the situation correctly, immunity for any policy which may be detrimental to the well being of our nation. No immunity is granted for violation of criminal law though, once more, if I understand the situation correctly, immunity from being held liable for policy is the course of granted immunity. Should this continue, the gross dereliction of duty is the methodology by which anything and everything can be label as policy therefore none of those practicing a methodology which they understand to be detrimental to our nation can nor will ever be held to account. We the People are no longer in control.

19 posted on 09/15/2012 9:55:55 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
This is what happens when you put a bunch of immature college “children of the earth” wearing “peace sign” and Che’ T-shirts in charge of foreign policy.

From another thread:


20 posted on 09/15/2012 9:57:22 AM PDT by Dr.Deth
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To: henkster
McCain has been very vocal insisting it is a terrorist attack not Libyan people.

There were concerns raised when they were pushing to over throw Qaddafi...who were we arming and replacing him with, including Al-Qaeda connections.

21 posted on 09/15/2012 9:58:07 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: Dr.Deth

Yup! There he is.


22 posted on 09/15/2012 9:58:51 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The United States of America apologizing to knuckledragging, cavedwelling Neandethals. Whodda thunk!)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
No protection for the Ambasador, yet Valerie Jarrett has 6, or 7, SS agents assigned to her 24 hrs. per day.

There is a perfectly good explanation for that:

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23 posted on 09/15/2012 9:58:56 AM PDT by newheart (At what point does policy become treason?)
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To: oldbrowser

Agree.

And if they are worried that “several American embassies may have been penetrated” why aren’t they worried that Hillary’s top aide has immediate family members in the Muslim Brotherhood?

If that isn’t penetration at the highest level, I don’t know what is.


24 posted on 09/15/2012 10:03:55 AM PDT by generally (Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: newheart
Jarrett....“the other side of Barack’s brain.” Iranian born from a family with communist background..connections to Frank Marshall Davis.

Highly praises Van Jones.

25 posted on 09/15/2012 10:09:57 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

I wonder how much information Smith disclosed on his Jabber account?


26 posted on 09/15/2012 10:11:15 AM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

“Sean Smith , one of the killed Americans in Bengazi , stated on his “Jabber account””
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“Tilted”-

Could you source that pls? I’ve followed this pretty closely and the only info on indirect fire (mortars) I’ve read appeared to come from an interview w/a Libyan militia “captain” who claimed to be part of the rescue attempt. Everything I have read seemed to indicate Sean Smith died at the consulate w/o ever having reached the “safe house” location.

At any rate, if you have the source or a link I would appreciate it as I would like to read that account ...there are so many conflicting stories it is hard to get any kind of grasp on the actual situation at this point.

Thx!

Regards,

-Geoff


27 posted on 09/15/2012 10:11:49 AM PDT by Ozymandias Ghost
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To: opentalk

Hasn’t Hillary learned anything?

http://youtu.be/7h3GPc_yMCE


28 posted on 09/15/2012 10:15:04 AM PDT by tsowellfan ("Real leaders don't follow polls. Real leaders change polls")
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To: opentalk

29 posted on 09/15/2012 10:15:28 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: opentalk

“What I saw at the coup” (Short fiction from a parallel universe)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2929658/posts

Some of the hate radio hosts began to fan the flames with crazy rumors that really weren’t so crazy, not to us. When they were taken off the air through a variety of means (but mainly for violating the “fomenting domestic terrorism” laws), the right wing nut jobs went absolutely mad with fury. The accusations about a secret purge continued. The plan was being laid out for all to see, even while it was being officially denied at every level, and was never reported on at all by our cooperating media networks and other friendly outlets.

And then the shooting started.

At a month and a half or so, it sometimes seemed that the plan was in danger of falling apart. I asked Dennis about it in private, but he appeared unworried. “It’s all part of the action-reaction calculus. It was all taken into account. We needed them to react. We’re in the second phase. We smoked them out into the open with phase one, and now we can go get them. Why do you think we bought billions of bullets for the DHS? Why do you think we paid for SWAT teams and armored cars in every Podunk town in America? We’ve been getting ready for this moment for years.”

“You knew this would happen? A civil war?”

He said, “It’s not a civil war—it’s a police action against criminals and domestic terrorists. But don’t worry: we’re ready. Now that they’re shooting at us, we can take the gloves off. The first two thousand arrests were just priming the pump. This phase will let us finish the job once and for all. Think about it: even now, nobody knows what happened to the first two thousand, or even that there were two thousand. In a month, nobody will remember if they were arrested before the shooting started, or after.”


30 posted on 09/15/2012 10:18:12 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

What Fast and Furious is to the Second Amendment, this operation is to the First Amendment.

F&F was designed and carried out by the 0bama administration as a pretext to restrict gun rights. It blew up in their faces and anyone who is paying attention knows exactly what they were up to.

This operation is not so clear cut. At least not yet. It’s too early to tell if this was :

1. the result of complete stupidity on the part of everyone in the State Department

2. the result of “leaving the door open” and hoping for someone to take advantage of it and cause a crisis

3. a false flag operation, designed by the 0bama administration to create exactly the type of crisis it did

Both 2&3 would give Zippy and his handlers an excuse to clamp down on the internet, create upheaval just before the election, and create an opening for many additional totalitarian acts on the party of Zippy.

Watch for who gets detained, held, questioned. Watch for pointing fingers and misdirection.


31 posted on 09/15/2012 10:21:29 AM PDT by generally (Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: Travis McGee
Based on his actions...He appears emotional unattached, does not care and is uninvolved. Insulated by gatekeepers desperate to protect their agenda and power.
32 posted on 09/15/2012 10:23:26 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: opentalk

The people at the state dept. are not just sacrificial lambs. They are just used as sitting ducks. Liberals just use people.


33 posted on 09/15/2012 10:25:07 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Corollary - Electing the same person over and over and expecting a different outcome is insanity)
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To: opentalk

WH keeps blaming that stupid film. IMO, it’s that constant Biden message: “Osama is dead GM is alive” that’s making the Muzzies crazy.


34 posted on 09/15/2012 10:26:54 AM PDT by duckman (Dr Ben Carlson: Vision Not Division.)
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To: opentalk
The question that needs to be asked of Hillary Clinton is would she outsource embassy security to Muslims and have no US Marines at a Middle East embassy if her daughter was appointed the ambassador.
35 posted on 09/15/2012 10:26:54 AM PDT by Proud2BeRight
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To: opentalk

36 posted on 09/15/2012 10:27:34 AM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: barryobi

Wow good work.


37 posted on 09/15/2012 10:28:32 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: pallis
"This is Hillary’s fault. It was a mistake to hire a Secretary of State who doesn’t know anything about foreign policy or different cultures, especially Islam."

You're right. Hillary as Sec. of State was and still is utterly absurd. There is nothing to recommend Hillary for any such position of power in the U.S. Government. The only thing she accomplished in life was marrying Bill and living in his wake while all the time wishing it was she who had the power and influence Bubba wielded in Arkansas and on the national scene after he became President.

She wasn't even a particularly good lawyer when she was practicing law part-time. She's unqualified for the job of SoS and was only placed there to mollify Bill and his supporters in the Democrat Party after Obama made a fool out of Hillary in the primaries.

38 posted on 09/15/2012 10:28:46 AM PDT by StormEye
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To: opentalk

John Bolton is the only person I’ve heard make sense so far!


39 posted on 09/15/2012 10:34:51 AM PDT by The Toll
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To: barryobi

‘... it is just a matter of getting them out before the Administration can bury them in their coverup.’

Too late:

“I’m going to frustrate all of you, infinitely, by telling you that now that we have an open FBI investigation on the death of these four Americans, we are not going to be in a position to talk at all about what the U.S. government may or may not be learning about how any of this this happened — not who they were, not how it happened, not what happened to Ambassador Stevens, not any of it — until the Justice Department is ready to talk about the investigation that’s its got,” State Department spokeswoman Victorian Nuland told reporters late Friday afternoon.


40 posted on 09/15/2012 10:35:16 AM PDT by Rennes Templar (I'm starting a business. Who's going to build it for me?)
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To: opentalk
After reading Caroline Glick, Daniel Greenfield and the accounts in the Independent and Daily Mail, there is no doubt that this was an organized military assault on the Benghazi compound, and a trap laid for Stevens.

The reason that Stevens was traveling with such a light security detail was that he believed that he had close contacts and good relations with the jihadi groups in Benghazi, and that his presence could diffuse the situation.

He was wrong.

Supposedly records were taken from the compound that disclosed the names of Libyans who were working as “sources” for Stevens. Initially, the fear has been that these records will be used for reprisals. I very much doubt it. I think they were removed for another reason.

The raiders of the compound knew where those records were kept. Doesn't that seem strange? Maybe, but not if it were the jihadis themselves who were the “collaborators.” Which would mean that jihadis had infiltrated the operations of the US embassy in Libya. Those records were taken so that the names of the jihadi "collaborators" wouldn't be retrieved by US personnel in the aftermath and the individuals identified.

Now, if that is what occurred in Libya, I believe it all too likely that jihadis have infiltrated many US embassies in the ME as part of a planned operation. I think that might be the source of the “chaos,” as the foreign service realizes the extent to which they've been penetrated by the enemy.

I suspect this extends far beyond security details.

41 posted on 09/15/2012 10:37:31 AM PDT by mojito
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To: The Sons of Liberty

>**The ONE good thing about this muzzie uprising may be we can hang “Barry” and Hildabeast at the same time! This may be a tool sent from Heaven to ensure SHE NEVER AGAIN INFESTS ANY OFFICE!!!!! **<

I pray the RNC/Romney don’t *blow* this gift dropped in their laps.


42 posted on 09/15/2012 10:39:13 AM PDT by Daffynition (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: barryobi

Hadn’t heard of the doctor’s call. The facts of one of the most fouled up State Department details are coming together.

Thanks.


43 posted on 09/15/2012 10:39:18 AM PDT by OldCountryBoy (You can't make this stuff up!)
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To: opentalk

At NO time should local Muslims be allowed inside a US embassy. If US citizens are too expensive, there are plenty of non-Muslim Indians or Filipinos willing to work cheaply.


44 posted on 09/15/2012 10:43:44 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Charlie Daniels - Payback Time http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWwTJj_nosI)
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To: OldCountryBoy

http://articles.boston.com/2012-09-14/metro/33818187_1_thomas-burke-libya-emergency-department

Libya is a country of nearly 6.5 million people, and the availability of emergency medical care can be summed up this way: It is almost nonexistent.

It is for that reason that a leading emergency physician from Massachusetts General Hospital, Dr. Thomas Burke, chief of the Boston hospital’s Division of Global Health and Human Rights, found himself in Benghazi, Libya, on Tuesday. Burke was preparing to begin a 10-year cooperative effort between Mass. General and Benghazi Medical Center to develop an emergency care infrastructure, when tragedy struck.

Just hours before Burke was scheduled to meet with John Christopher Stevens, the US ambassador to Libya, the US consulate was attacked. Stevens and three other Americans were killed, including Glen Doherty, a Winchester native and former Navy SEAL working for a private security company.

Burke’s colleagues had spoken with Stevens just 45 minutes before the attack, and Burke was on the phone with an embassy attaché when the shelling began.

“He yelled, ‘Oh my God, Oh [expletive],’ and then he hung up,” said Burke, who was in a hotel about a mile from the consulate when the attack began. “Then we heard these deep blasts. We didn’t know what was going on. Nobody knew if the whole city was being attacked.”


45 posted on 09/15/2012 10:43:44 AM PDT by barryobi
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To: Travis McGee
This is a photo of the President at the Consulate...


46 posted on 09/15/2012 10:44:01 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: barryobi
Academi, the company formerly known as Blackwater, was ready “two months ago” to go to Libya to protect diplomatic assets,

Had they been there, Libyan "civilian" attackers would be dead by the score and the body-guards would now be charged with murder. But Ambassador Stevens would be alive.

Blackwater would have to change its name again. But the ambassador would still be alive.

47 posted on 09/15/2012 10:47:00 AM PDT by marron
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
Rules for Radicals By Saul Alinsky -1971

"'The organizer's first job is to create the issues or problems,' and 'organizations must be based on many issues.'

The organizer 'must first rub raw the resentments of the people of the community; fan the latent hostilities of many of the people to the point of overt expression.

He must search out controversy and issues, rather than avoid them, for unless there is controversy people are not concerned enough to act. . . . An organizer must stir up dissatisfaction and discontent.'"

Obama's community organizing was (is) based on it. Hillary wrote her college thesis on Alinsky

48 posted on 09/15/2012 10:49:30 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: generally

Ding ding ding. Alarm bells going off.


49 posted on 09/15/2012 11:07:11 AM PDT by sgtyork (The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage. Thucydides)
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To: generally

Ding ding ding. Alarm bells going off.


50 posted on 09/15/2012 11:07:19 AM PDT by sgtyork (The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage. Thucydides)
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