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Were “Sam Bacile” and “The Innocence of Muslims” Part of a Salafi Plot All Along?
FrontPage ^ | Sep 13th, 2012 | Daniel Greenfield

Posted on 09/15/2012 1:18:44 PM PDT by null and void

The Salafi contribution to the cartoon riots

The current working theory in most media circles is that Sam Bacile, who claimed to be an Israeli Jew, was really a front for Coptic Christians. The truth may however be that Sam Bacile was a Salafist who used Jews and Copts as a front for a Salafist agenda.

There is some evidence that suggests this may be the most logical conclusion. Salafist connections have covered this entire project from beginning to end.

Sam Bacile, didn’t do much with his YouTube account, besides uploading two clips from the “Innocence of Muslims” film, but he also commented in Arabic on an Egyptian video discussing his movie, and last month he had favorited a video from the Egyptian Salafist Al Nour Party featuring Al Nour Party spokesman Nader Bakkar attacking Ibrahim Issa and defending the Salafis.

A video defending Salafism is an odd choice for someone who claims to think Islam is a cancer to add to his favorites.

The Salafi connections don’t end there. The movie was picked up and denounced by Al-Nas, a popular Egyptian Salafi satellite channel. The wave of protests was then organized and reportedly carried out by Salafis.

It looks a great deal like Salafis set the movie in motion, then began promoting a movie that no one had ever heard of before on their own channel and then used it set off riots and carry out an attack on US embassies.

The only sticking point here is would devout Muslims really defame Mohammed in order to stage violent attacks that would benefit their political movements?

The answer is unquestionably yes. Most people still remember that the blasphemy case against an 11-year-old Pakistani Christian girl was the result of a fraud carried out by a Muslim cleric. But there is a more definitive example.

During the Danish Cartoon controversy it was discovered that some of the cartoons were not from the published batch at all. Some had been manufactured by the Imams who had calculatedly stirred up the outrage.

One of three especially inflammatory but undocumented Muhammad images distributed by a Danish imam as an example of an “anti-Muslim environment” in the European country turns out to be a poorly reproduced copy of an Associated Press photo taken at a French pig-squealing contest.

Since last week, Muslims throughout the world have engaged in protests and deadly riots in response to 12 cartoons caricaturing Islam’s prophet Muhammad published in September by the Danish newspaper Jyllands-Posten and three much more provocative images that Muslim leaders have been unable to document.

One of those images of mysterious origin, which never were published, is from the AP photo. Another depicts Muhammad as a pedophile demon and a third has a praying Muslim being raped by a dog.

Abu Laban, leader of the Islamic Society of Denmark, took the images on a tour of the Middle East in December to rally support for his protest against the newspaper and Danish government. Tour spokesman Akhmad Akkari explained the three drawings had been added to “give an insight in how hateful the atmosphere in Denmark is towards Muslims.”

Akkari claimed he didn’t know the origin of the three images, saying they had been sent anonymously to Danish Muslims. But he rejected a request by the Danish newspaper Ekstra Bladet to speak with the people who supposedly received them.

Now let’s see if we can connect the dots on the origin of the whole thing.

A profile of Abu Laban Friday night on Danish television documented his close ties to the Egyptian terrorist group Gamaa Islamiya.
Gamaa Islamiya is Salafist. Its Building and Development Party is part of the Islamic Alliance led by the Al Nour Party.

Abu Laban is a Salafi and if the Salafis were willing to stir up the cartoon riots by faking pictures of Mohammed as a pig, pedophile and engaging in bestiality, they would have little problems with something like “The Innocence of Muslims.”

The safest conclusion about history is that it repeats itself. The cartoon riots were touched off by pictures of Mohammed faked by Salafis. It is highly probable that the current wave of Salafi violence was touched off by a movie created by a Salafist claiming to be an Israeli Jew who had raised 5 million dollars from “100 Jews” with Coptic Christians and actors who were both unaware of how they were being exploited by a radical Islamist movement.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 20120911; abulaban; alnour; alnourparty; bdp; cartoonwar; egypt; gamaaislamiya; ibrahimissa; innocenceofmuslims; laban; lies; naderbakkar; salafi; salafists; sambecile; taqiyya; taqqiyya
Al Taqiyya, doesn't work here anymore...
1 posted on 09/15/2012 1:18:47 PM PDT by null and void
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To: null and void; mnehring; COUNTrecount; Nowhere Man; FightThePower!; C. Edmund Wright; ...

Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping!

To get onto The Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping List you must threaten to report me to the Mods if I don’t add you to the list...

2 posted on 09/15/2012 1:22:34 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1335 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama, a queer and present danger)
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To: null and void
AP Is the source of the supposed interview with the Coptic guy ~ we have only their word for it ~ no one else's.

They figure in this story as well ~ hope you caught that.

AP has to be considered a Salafist asset ~ but they also seem to peddle influence to other moslem outfits.

3 posted on 09/15/2012 1:22:48 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: null and void

Well, since Obama’s paki pepsico former roomate is supposed to be involved...


4 posted on 09/15/2012 1:29:57 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (I will fear no muslim))
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To: null and void

Sorry, AP sourced story.
Why do you thinks its a conspiracy......oh wait you really do think it was a snippet of movie on youtube that doesn’t actually exist or not.


5 posted on 09/15/2012 1:30:35 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: null and void
There is some evidence that suggests this may be the most logical conclusion

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there is no "logical conclusion" -- there are only facts -- he either is a Copt or he isn't. Do you have proof that he isn't?

6 posted on 09/15/2012 1:32:36 PM PDT by wtc911 (Amigo - you've been had.)
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To: null and void

This isn’t taqiyya
This is Muruna

Muruna allows them to violate their own laws to accomplish their mission.


7 posted on 09/15/2012 1:33:48 PM PDT by Lera (Proverbs 29:2)
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To: wtc911

Mostly I just post ‘em, I don’t write ‘em.

It’s not a vanity. I can’t speak for the author’s opinion.


8 posted on 09/15/2012 1:38:16 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1335 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama, a queer and present danger)
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To: Lera

Good to know. Thanks!


9 posted on 09/15/2012 1:40:54 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1335 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama, a queer and present danger)
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To: null and void

Sam Bacile sounds too much like imbecile to be taken seriously as a real name.


10 posted on 09/15/2012 1:50:34 PM PDT by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: null and void
Notice Saudi Arabia has no riots or demonstrations. The Saudi government is pulling the strings.
11 posted on 09/15/2012 1:57:32 PM PDT by bmwcyle (Corollary - Electing the same person over and over and expecting a different outcome is insanity)
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To: null and void

Sultan Knish is on target - the “Israeli Jew filmmaker financed by 100 Jews” angle disappeared very quickly, and now we’re on the Coptic Christian angle. Isn’t the most logical explanation: (i) this so-called “film” had NOTHING to do with the current flames, and (ii) the “film” is in any event likely the work of an agent provocateur by Iran, etc. Seems so clear.


12 posted on 09/15/2012 2:14:07 PM PDT by rockvillem
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To: null and void

I wonder who this guy really is; who hired him. “Code Pink” may be involved in this as they were with “Occupy” in Egypt during Obama’s Arab Spring. - All peas in a pod. .


13 posted on 09/15/2012 2:20:05 PM PDT by Twinkie (In whose eyes a vile person is contemned. Ps. 15:4a)
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This theory is kind of stupid. Anyone can find many, many anti-muslim web sites, videos & the like on the Internet. muslims can riot until Mecca freezes over using a different blasphemy on the Net every day.

The only people pushing this bogus video theory are the Obama supporters. They are the biggest blame babies in the world.

We adults all know it is planned muslim terror. It makes no sense to suddenly go ballistic over a video when Obama is bombing muslims every day for 3+ years & bragging about it. Even al-Qaeda says it was planned.

Obama would have us believe it was spontaneous anger from Egyptian & Libyan soccer moms & dads who just happen to be carrying a black al-Qaeda flag & an AK-47.

14 posted on 09/15/2012 2:26:46 PM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: null and void

Interesting theory. And all too likely.

The FBI arrested this guy and brought him in for questioning. But if this speculation is factual, the FBI would be the very last people in the world to tell us. One of their major jobs, ever since the days of clinton and OKC, has been to cover up for Muslim terrorists.


15 posted on 09/15/2012 2:27:51 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: null and void
For a long time I wondered if the world would ever see a worse actor than Keanu Reeves.

Apparently so, but this knowledge came at too great a cost.

16 posted on 09/15/2012 2:53:57 PM PDT by Oratam
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To: null and void
>"a poorly reproduced copy of an Associated Press photo taken at a French pig-squealing contest."


17 posted on 09/15/2012 3:57:00 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (I'd rather have a bottle in front of me, than a Barack 0b0tt0my!)
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To: Hardraade
Sunni? Shiaa? or Salafi???

One things fer sure. Mr 0botto is a muzzie through and through!

18 posted on 09/15/2012 4:07:08 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (I'd rather have a bottle in front of me, than a Barack 0b0tt0my!)
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To: null and void

this one makes more sense than most


19 posted on 09/15/2012 5:15:27 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: muawiyah

but it akes more sense and rings truer than any thing else that is out there


20 posted on 09/15/2012 5:16:35 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: wtc911

do you have proof he is????


21 posted on 09/15/2012 5:17:26 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: null and void; Nifster
We have 2 things going on.

1. obama-a person who will use and abuse EVERY power, agency, law, and truth to destroy everyone in his way.

2. obama-a person who will use and abuse EVERY power, agency, law, and truth to destroy everyone in his way.

Combine the two and there isn't much around that would surprise me.

Unless you told me he was spotted flying around Mars.

Ohhh, wait...


22 posted on 09/15/2012 6:33:24 PM PDT by bigheadfred
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To: bmwcyle

Yesterday on another thread I mentioned the absolute silence coming from the Saudis...it’s quite striking. I know it means something- but am not jumping to conclusions.


23 posted on 09/15/2012 6:42:46 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: bigheadfred

oh yeah too true and you did get me to have a really good belly laugh which in the past weeks has been really hard to do


24 posted on 09/15/2012 7:00:56 PM PDT by Nifster
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