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DEATH BY A THOUSAND CUTS
Powerline ^ | SEPTEMBER 15, 2012 | PAUL MIRENGOFF

Posted on 09/15/2012 2:19:36 PM PDT by lasereye

Here in the Northern Virginia ad market, Team Obama continues its merciless pounding of Mitt Romney. Although Team Romney says it is blitzing the airwaves in certain key areas, most of the ads in this market still come from Obama. And, as has been the case all season, the Obama ads are troublesome for Romney.

The latest I’ve seen (which apparently has been running for some time) quotes Romney to the effect that class size doesn’t matter in education. The ad also says that Romney supports the Ryan budget that “could cut education by 20 percent.” It concludes that Romney is simply out of touch with the educational needs of ordinary Americans, thus tying the ad to Obama’s larger theme that Romney is too wealthy to “get it.”

Romney hasn’t really said that class size doesn’t matter. Rather, his position is that class size is not determinative of educational outcomes and that other factors (parent involvement, teacher quality, good administrators) matter more.

Here in the Northern Virginia ad market, Team Obama continues its merciless pounding of Mitt Romney. Although Team Romney says it is blitzing the airwaves in certain key areas, most of the ads in this market still come from Obama. And, as has been the case all season, the Obama ads are troublesome for Romney.

The latest I’ve seen (which apparently has been running for some time) quotes Romney to the effect that class size doesn’t matter in education. The ad also says that Romney supports the Ryan budget that “could cut education by 20 percent.” It concludes that Romney is simply out of touch with the educational needs of ordinary Americans, thus tying the ad to Obama’s larger theme that Romney is too wealthy to “get it.”

Romney hasn’t really said that class size doesn’t matter. Rather, his position is that class size is not determinative of educational outcomes and that other factors (parent involvement, teacher quality, good administrators) matter more.

Romney bases this view on studies and on his experience as Massachusetts Governor. It is certainly a defensible position. Indeed, according to the Romney campaign, Obama’s own Secretary of Education has promoted teacher quality over class size as the key to educational outcomes.

But that’s not important right now. What matters is that this ad will alarm middle class voters in Northern Virginia and wherever else, in swing states, class sizes swell. Thus, it will cost Romney votes.

Frankly, every anti-Romney ad I’ve seen to date has struck me as effective. Team Obama seems well as its way to inflicting on Romney death by a thousand cuts.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 2012; election; va2012
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Of course class size, within reason, doesn't matter.
1 posted on 09/15/2012 2:19:42 PM PDT by lasereye
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To: lasereye

That ad in question is a joke.


2 posted on 09/15/2012 2:21:45 PM PDT by Perdogg
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To: lasereye

The whole “class size” issue is nothing more than a ploy, by teachers’ unions, to increase the number of teachers. (And, by extension, increase revenue from union dues.)


3 posted on 09/15/2012 2:22:55 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: lasereye

Class size doesn’t matter when you have retarded teachers.


4 posted on 09/15/2012 2:23:24 PM PDT by Terry Mross
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To: lasereye

There are two ads in NoVa that usually play after the 0bama ad. One is pro-romney positive ad that goes after 0bama on gas prices and defense cuts, then it is usually followed up by a crossroads ad that mocks 0bama’s forward.

I sick and tired of people wetting their pants.


5 posted on 09/15/2012 2:24:04 PM PDT by Perdogg
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To: lasereye
When does Romney start HIS attacks on Obama's MISERABLE RECORD? ENOUGH ALREADY! Who cares what Obama's stupid campaign says - GO AFTER THE GUY - HE'S a SITTING DUCK. He's an utter failure at home with a tanked economy and abroad as graphically seen these days.

Romney, WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR?

6 posted on 09/15/2012 2:24:50 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: lasereye; LS; randita

Romney may not “win” NoVa, but 0bama will not get the votes in NoVa to offset downstate loses.


7 posted on 09/15/2012 2:26:34 PM PDT by Perdogg
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To: PapaNew

They are going after 0bama, I see the ads all of the time.


8 posted on 09/15/2012 2:29:27 PM PDT by Perdogg
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To: lasereye
Romney is basically correct. Class size doesn't matter that much. Is the Messiah playing upon the stupidity of the electorate? If so, we may be in worse trouble than just an islamo bolshevik in the Whitehouse (as bad as that is).
9 posted on 09/15/2012 2:30:14 PM PDT by Stepan12
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To: Perdogg

I hope so. Guess I haven’t seen them - as the article says, I have seen more Obama than Romney ads.


10 posted on 09/15/2012 2:33:03 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: lasereye

I remember hearing a teacher say “give me 15 students and I can teach them, give me 30 and I can’t”. I happened to overhear it when the teacher was talking to another parent. Just common sense really.


11 posted on 09/15/2012 2:36:18 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

Bingo.

I’ve seen the school budgets and how the schools operate in Northern Virginia. If they cared about class size, they could make classes smaller. They brag about a 6:1 teacher to pupil ratio. That is a joke. Unless your child is in special ed and getting 1:1 attention, they don’t care about actual class sizes. They only care about the number they report to make themselves look good. They get the 6:1 number by counting all personnel with even the remotest contact with students, not by looking at actual class sizes.

Also, the biggest line item in Northern Virginia public education is bilingual education. Get rid of that and you could cut class size in half at no extra cost.

Get rid of the bloated bureaucracy and their luxurious offices, plus the crap they buy that is only peripherally related to education, and you could cut the tax rate in half.


12 posted on 09/15/2012 2:39:23 PM PDT by generally (Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: lasereye; vette6387; freekitty; Forty-Niner; Kaslin; MamaDearest; unkus; MestaMachine; ...

Ads, about about some stark reality? The Middle East is on fire and World War III has begun all because of the Marxist Puke in our White House and his reprehensible, inept Secretary of State. Now go to the gasoline station and fill your tank. Like the bill? Then go to the grocery store. Like the bill? Look at what your house is worth. Like the loss? Out of work, how do you like the job market? Your kids still living with you unemployed? Like the privacy? And if all that isn’t positive enough for you, you should enjoy facing a Death Panel thanks to DeathCare. Other than that Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play???


13 posted on 09/15/2012 2:40:15 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: lasereye

Ditto down here in the Hampton Roads area of VA... I haven`t seen a pro-Romney TV ad in many days. Obama`s are up there every where you look. Romney promised an ad blitz after the DNC. So..... where is it????

I don`t know what his strategy is, but if Romney wants to win Virginia, he`s going to have to fight for it and there`s little evidence that`s happening. If the election night situation is such that Obama wins Virginia again, it`s going to be an early night and Romney will be giving his concession speech before polls close in the Mountain Time Zone.


14 posted on 09/15/2012 2:40:20 PM PDT by ScottinVA (If Obama is reelected, America will deserve every mockery that follows.)
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To: Perdogg

Well.. nice that Romney is countering Obama`s ads up there in NorVa, but Obama is unopposed in the ad wars down here in the Hampton Roads area.


15 posted on 09/15/2012 2:43:37 PM PDT by ScottinVA (If Obama is reelected, America will deserve every mockery that follows.)
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To: lasereye

“The ad also says that Romney supports the Ryan budget that “could cut education by 20 percent”

I disagree with Ryan here. 20% is not nearly enough.


16 posted on 09/15/2012 2:43:42 PM PDT by Holly_P
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To: Perdogg

“I sick and tired of people wetting their pants.”

Can I sit next to you until the election is over?


17 posted on 09/15/2012 2:44:08 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: ilovesarah2012
I remember hearing a teacher say “give me 15 students and I can teach them, give me 30 and I can’t”.

Thirty in a class in my generation was not unusual, and even in a new regional School, there was never a class under 20.

The generation who used SLIDE RULES, and put someone on the Moon.

To be fair to the teachers, though, if we went home with bad grades we HEARD ABOUT IT nonstop. Contrast that to the "Columbine Parents": "Here's a computer, here's a car, get out of our sight". And the Single parent who is trying to feed them, and doesn't have an extra hour.

If the teachers are supposed to be Kiddie Warehouse managers or zookeepers, then class size, or little else, matter.

18 posted on 09/15/2012 2:49:49 PM PDT by Gorzaloon (The Google thing is in the yard again. Sniffed the laundry, now it's looking in the septic tank.)
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To: lasereye

Incomprehensible. The election is seven weeks away and Romney’s hardest-hitting ad says that Obama is a nice guy who just isn’t really good enough to be president. Meanwhile, Obama ads are showing Romney disemboweling seniors and tearing their guts out with his teeth. This is the rough, tough Romney we’ve heard so much about? Obama in a walk.


19 posted on 09/15/2012 2:52:38 PM PDT by pabianice (washington, dc ..)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

Two things about class size. First, the federal government isn’t supposed to be funding local public education. Second, every time taxpayers get suckered into paying higher taxes they don’t get smaller classes, they get higher paid teachers.


20 posted on 09/15/2012 2:55:39 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: lasereye

I have yet to see a Romney ad, though I do live in Texas. What the hell is Mitt spending all his $ on?


21 posted on 09/15/2012 2:56:42 PM PDT by JerseyDvl (Cogito Ergo Doleo Soetoro, ABO and of course FUBO!)
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To: ScottinVA
There's this thing with Romney in it ~ in Northern VA but I didn't realize it was supposed to be an AD.

BTW, VA is a right to work state so the unions don't get a mandatory dues collection ~ plus there's no collective bargaining

I think Romney's peeps are avoiding Virginia so they can blame Conservatives for his loss.

22 posted on 09/15/2012 2:58:04 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: ScottinVA
There's this thing with Romney in it ~ in Northern VA but I didn't realize it was supposed to be an AD.

BTW, VA is a right to work state so the unions don't get a mandatory dues collection ~ plus there's no collective bargaining

I think Romney's peeps are avoiding Virginia so they can blame Conservatives for his loss.

23 posted on 09/15/2012 2:58:15 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: PapaNew

Romney, WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR?

That’s what I say Papa. If the GOP doesn’t learn from the mistakes of ‘08 and let what should be an easy win slip through their fingers, then they are a dumber and more out of touch party than imagined.


24 posted on 09/15/2012 2:59:19 PM PDT by Mountain Mary (Are we watching a bad SNL skit? The world is upside down.)
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To: pabianice

Mittens also appeared on Kelly Ripa and reaffirmed that Barry is a nice guy and that his favorite sleeping attire is nothing.
Holy cr*p.


25 posted on 09/15/2012 3:02:20 PM PDT by Mountain Mary (Are we watching a bad SNL skit? The world is upside down.)
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To: lasereye

Romney needs to learn to fight. People like a fighter - they think that if you fight in a campaign you will fight for them.
I hope he reads this. As a matter of fact, I’m going to some other blogs to make this comment. Maybe his campaign will listen.


26 posted on 09/15/2012 3:04:15 PM PDT by BlueCat
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To: JerseyDvl

Hey, Tex:
You misunderstand. For us Texans, It’s not about spending money, it’s all about getting donations from us. I have ordered T-shirts from Romney twice. Just after Romney captured the prize and again after the announcement of Paul Ryan. Still haven’t recieved any T’s or buttons.
Just sayin’.


27 posted on 09/15/2012 3:06:25 PM PDT by encm(ss)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ms3QdGIzltU This should explain to you what may happen with a state law that requires collective bargaining and dues check off. VA is a right to work state and there’s no dues check off system here. You’ll enjoy the video.


28 posted on 09/15/2012 3:07:03 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Mountain Mary

Whales do two things ~ they eat, and they poo ~ and that goes to the bottom ~ like this campaign ~ still haven’t seen any signs of it.


29 posted on 09/15/2012 3:08:40 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: ilovesarah2012

“I remember hearing a teacher say “give me 15 students and I can teach them, give me 30 and I can’t”. I happened to overhear it when the teacher was talking to another parent. Just common sense really.”

I’m 58. For my first five grades there were always at least 40 in the class. The classes were well behaved as the teacher had something referred to as “the board of education.” It was a wooden paddle with holes cut in it so it whistled when she swung it. I remember the tune it played. Oddly, there was no ADD, as the fidgety students soon learned to sit down and behave. Amazing how behaved a large class can be with no drugs and only the threat of a piece of wood.


30 posted on 09/15/2012 3:16:08 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: JerseyDvl

You wonder. Is the RNC bying themselves new condos?


31 posted on 09/15/2012 3:21:07 PM PDT by squarebarb ( Fairy tales are basically true.)
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To: lasereye

The fact that team Obama needs to run that many ads in northern Virginia says something. They are still trying to lock down their base.


32 posted on 09/15/2012 3:41:35 PM PDT by PogySailor (Obama is a SCOAMF)
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To: ilovesarah2012

I remember hearing a teacher say “give me 15 students and I can teach them, give me 30 and I can’t”. I happened to overhear it when the teacher was talking to another parent. Just common sense really.

______________________

I went to school in classrooms of 45 students in classes divided by ability tracking. We all did well. Take the problems out of the school. stop the mainstreaming and you can have the 45 kid classrooms of the past.

My elementry school had nine grades, 27 teachers, one principal, one part time assistant principal, one part time nurse, one secretary and two custodians.And about 900 children


33 posted on 09/15/2012 3:44:45 PM PDT by Chickensoup (STOP The Great O-ppression)
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To: PogySailor

The rep base is not Northern VA.


34 posted on 09/15/2012 3:48:24 PM PDT by sgtyork (The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage. Thucydides)
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To: PogySailor

The rep base is not Northern VA.


35 posted on 09/15/2012 3:48:38 PM PDT by sgtyork (The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage. Thucydides)
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To: lasereye; mickie; flaglady47; oswegodeee
I went to Lutheran parochial grammar school in Oak Park, Illinois. At that time, and for a few years thereafter, there were TWO GRADES in one room.

I thank God every day for the terrific education I got in that school. The large number of bodies in small classrooms worked because the principal, the teachers (and the parents who backed them up) were in control...... not the kids and their lawyers like today.

Leni

36 posted on 09/15/2012 3:55:33 PM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: lasereye

Bill Clinton won twice with the policy to never let the sun set without answering an attack on him.

Team Romney says this time is different through, because the election is 100% a referendum on Obama. So, they say, it is best for Romney to just turn the other cheek, and even praise Obama, in order to avoid shifting the focus away from the economy.


37 posted on 09/15/2012 4:12:24 PM PDT by Siegfried X
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To: Mountain Mary
"Mittens also appeared on Kelly Ripa and reaffirmed that Barry is a nice guy and that his favorite sleeping attire is nothing."

Are you serious??

How can he win an election if he doesn't even know the nature of the person he's running against? And as for his sleeping habits, I could have gone the rest of my life without that visual...ugh.

38 posted on 09/15/2012 4:40:08 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Don't be afraid to see what you see. (Ronald Reagan))
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To: Mountain Mary

Do you have a link?


39 posted on 09/15/2012 4:45:03 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: squarebarb

Is willard looking to run for senate by chance? I guess it could be a replay of 2008 in having the presidential race fund the senate one.


40 posted on 09/15/2012 5:08:38 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Vote for willard - he doesn't need to earn your vote, he's entitled to it.)
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To: Terry Mross

Also, class size doesn’t matter when you have discipline.


41 posted on 09/15/2012 5:18:22 PM PDT by abclily
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To: lasereye

That he has to blitz advertise in an area of VA that should be solidly for him is bad news, not good news for team O.

But I know, never bother the Conservative Eeyore choir at Powerline with inconvenient facts.


42 posted on 09/15/2012 5:20:36 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: lasereye

Okay folks. Listen up. I work for a VERY LEFT WING organization and the employees sit at work day in and day out demoralizing conservatives by posting on our web sites. Pay attention to the “we can’t win” themes. PAY ATTENTION!!!
(PS...I’ll talk to Paul about this article - he should stop it too.)


43 posted on 09/15/2012 5:20:36 PM PDT by Hero
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To: Hero
(PS...I’ll talk to Paul about this article - he should stop it too.)

Thank you. The Eyroe choir in the "conservative" media does this every election. They think spending all their time shooting their own in the back rather then using their forums as a platform to attack the Left "helps".

No, it merely indicates the "conservative" posting the crap is the useful idiot of the Democrat Party propaganda machine

44 posted on 09/15/2012 5:24:20 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: MNJohnnie

Frankly I’ve had it with naysayers. You can see it and it’s infects the entire group.
I haven’t posted on this site for years but I’m at the end of my rope. I just wish that ALL Freepers would get this word out. TRUST ME ON THIS, the left wingers are on their computers day and night - getting marching orders from the president’s men at Le Casa Blanca and I know if first hand.


45 posted on 09/15/2012 5:37:09 PM PDT by Hero
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To: Hero

I agree. I will help every way I can.

The GOP is not perfect they are only 85% better then the Democrats. Apprently too many Conservatives would rather have 100% of nothing then 85% of something


46 posted on 09/15/2012 5:42:04 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: MNJohnnie

Get the word out. It’s a serious and well organized effort and people are being paid to do this.


47 posted on 09/15/2012 5:46:27 PM PDT by Hero
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To: Chickensoup
My 5th grade class had 58 students. Needing glasses I could barely see to the other side of the room ~ they took half the kids to do finger painting. Then they had a flu epidemic and nobody got to school but me.

They never did the other half. I never did finger painting. No one complained about it!

1 teacher; 58 kids; she did it without a paddle.

48 posted on 09/15/2012 6:05:25 PM PDT by muawiyah
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A picture....

"Obama Campaign Tweets Sweatshirt Sale as Coffins Arrive from Libya"

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/09/14/Obama-campaign-tweets-sweatshirt-sale

Is worth... There will be blood: A Libyan man explains that the bloodstains on the column are from one the American staff members who grabbed the edge of the column while he was evacuated, after an attack that killed four Americans on September 11th

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2202979/Benghazi-attack-U-S-consulate-pictured-Libyan-attack-revealed-officials-knew-attack-plans-48-HOURS-before.html#ixzz26adLg1Uf

a thousand

words Marine dragged through the streets of Mogadishu

You want to be discouraged?

You want to LET THEM WIN? http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/09/islamists-drag-dead-body-of-us-ambassador-in-the-streets/ REALLY?

I am no Coulter fan. But let me remind you that, in 2001, we believed. "The nation has been invaded by a fanatical, murderous cult. And we welcome them. We are so good and so pure we would never engage in discriminatory racial or "religious" profiling.

People who want our country destroyed live here, work for our airlines, and are submitted to the exact same airport shakedown as a lumberman from Idaho. This would be like having the Wehrmacht immigrate to America and work for our airlines during World War II. Except the Wehrmacht was not so bloodthirsty.

"All of our lives" don't need to change, as they keep prattling on TV. Every single time there is a terrorist attack — or a plane crashes because of pilot error — Americans allow their rights to be contracted for no purpose whatsoever." http://old.nationalreview.com/coulter/coulter.shtml

(They) know what scares you. Tell them you will not submit

Tell them Lan Astaslem.

49 posted on 09/15/2012 6:30:59 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: ScottinVA; LS; MNJohnnie

Ryan was just in the tidewater area. I am not sure why people are getting upset so over that stupid class room size ad. It is a bad ad.

I went to the gym this afternoon for my two-hour run. I can see 7 different tvs. I really did not see many ads by either Romney or 0bama. I saw more ads by the Rob Sobhani and the question 7 ballot measure in Maryland. I saw the new crossroad ad attacking Obama and the new Romney a few times.


50 posted on 09/15/2012 7:08:21 PM PDT by Perdogg
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