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Thousands of Chinese protesters besiege Japanese embassy
Japan Today ^ | Sep. 15, 2012 - 09:00PM JST

Posted on 09/15/2012 3:42:36 PM PDT by DeaconBenjamin

Thousands of Chinese besieged the Japanese embassy in Beijing on Saturday, hurling rocks, eggs and bottles as protests broke out in other major cities in China amid growing tension between Asia’s two biggest economies over a group of disputed islands.

Paramilitary police with shields and batons barricaded the embassy, holding back and occasionally fighting with slogan-chanting, flag-waving protesters who at times appeared to be trying to storm the building.

“Return our islands! Japanese devils get out!” some shouted. One of them held up a sign reading: “For the respect of the motherland, we must go to war with Japan.”

Protester Liu Gang, a migrant worker from the southern region of Guangxi, said: “We hate Japan. We’ve always hated Japan. Japan invaded China and killed a lot of Chinese. We will never forget.”

By early evening, police had succeeded in persuading some onlookers and would-be protesters to leave. Rings of anti-riot police stood guard in front of the embassy, apparently readying for a long night.

“I think it’s time for the Chinese government to get tougher. Look at what the ordinary people feel. The government should respond,” said one onlooker who came to protest and who gave his family name as Xue.

“I don’t mean war, but tougher action like sanctions. You can see how much Japan depends on our economy. Then don’t sell them any rare earths,” he said, referring to elements mined in China and key to advanced technologies for the defense, electronics and renewable-energy industries.

Japan said its foreign minister had cut short a visit to Australia and flown back to Tokyo.

The long-standing territorial dispute escalated dramatically on Friday when China sent six surveillance ships to a group of uninhabited islets in the East China Sea, raising tension between the two countries to its highest level since 2010.

China, which has similar disputes elsewhere with other neighbors, was responding to Japan’s decision on Tuesday to buy the islands, which Tokyo calls the Senkaku and Beijing calls the Diaoyu, from a private Japanese owner despite Chinese warnings against doing so.

Sino-Japanese ties have long been plagued by China’s bitter memories of Japan’s military aggression in the 1930s and 1940s and present rivalry over resources - the islands are believed to be surrounded by energy-rich waters - and regional clout.

Relations between the two countries, whose business and trade ties have blossomed in recent years, chilled in 2010, after Japan arrested a Chinese trawler captain whose boat collided with Japanese Coast Guard vessels near the islands.

In Shanghai, streets around the Japanese consulate, in the western part of town, were cordoned off. Hundreds of police let small groups of people in at a time to protest.

China’s official Xinhua news agency said big anti-Japan protests were also held in the Chinese cities of Xian, Changsha, Nanjing and Qingdao. Japanese media reported outbreaks of violence as people attacked Japanese restaurants and businesses.

“Armed police and police officers have been dispatched to protest sites to maintain order,” Xinhua said in an English-language report, the first mention of the unrest by mainstream Chinese media.

Japan’s Kyodo news agency said that the demonstrations were the biggest in China since the two countries normalised diplomatic relations in 1972.

Pictures on China’s popular Twitter-like Sina Weibo showed protests in other, smaller cities, and pictures of looting of shops and destruction of Japanese cars.

There have been sporadic protests around China throughout the week, although those in Beijing had been small and largely peaceful.

The latest dispute flared up last month after Japan detained a group of Chinese activists who had landed on the islands.

Diplomats say Tokyo and Beijing want to keep the row from escalating, but managing the situation can be difficult given that China is undergoing a leadership change, an election is looming in Japan and mutual mistrust runs deep.

China’s ruling Communist Party, which likes to project an image of stability, rarely permits protests to take place. While Beijing is under strong popular pressure to take a tough line with Japan, it will also be cautious not to let the protests spin out of control.

“I think the government is encouraging this,” said one protester, who gave his name as Uda Chen.

“They could have stopped all of us approaching when we were at the subway station. The government has taught us to be anti-Japanese at school, so if they want us to stop it would be like slapping their own mouths,” he added.

The influential Chinese tabloid, the Global Times, published by Communist Party mouthpiece the People’s Daily, said backing off was not an option for China.

“China should be confident about strategically overwhelming Japan,” it wrote, saying the Chinese military should “increase their preparation and intensify their deterrence” against Japan.

“China will not shy away if Japan chooses to resort to its military,” the widely read paper added.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: rentamob

1 posted on 09/15/2012 3:42:38 PM PDT by DeaconBenjamin
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To: DeaconBenjamin

Could there be a secret Sino-AQ alliance?

Lord, have mercy!


2 posted on 09/15/2012 3:44:25 PM PDT by lightman (Settling for the "lesser of two..." is still choosing Evil)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

the whole world is falling apart under Obama leadership or lack of leadership.


3 posted on 09/15/2012 3:46:02 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

Are they sure someone didn’t make a film mocking Chairman Mao?


4 posted on 09/15/2012 3:46:09 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (“We can’t just leave it (food choice) up to the parents.” moochele obozo 2/12/2012 (cnsnews))
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To: lightman

Remind me again, why we have outsourced jobs to China?

Are we idiots?


5 posted on 09/15/2012 3:47:17 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (America doesn't need any new laws. America needs freedom!)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

Well, at least we aren’t getting All the rioting. If the CIA is smart they’ll make an anti-Mohammed film using Chinese actors, and send it to the ME with a phony trail leading back to the PRC.


6 posted on 09/15/2012 3:48:29 PM PDT by superstitionmountain (Did I mentio that I hate Chris Dodd, a rat among men.)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

Just damn.


7 posted on 09/15/2012 3:49:02 PM PDT by Conservative4Ever (The Obamas = rude, crude and socially unacceptable)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

I know there’s one idiot on this thread who thinks that protectionism is a sound economic policy.


8 posted on 09/15/2012 3:51:10 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Lurker

At the risk of side-tracking this thread, I started as a balls to the walls free trader.

I have changed my mind.

Now we are simply de-industrializing America.


9 posted on 09/15/2012 3:54:01 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (America doesn't need any new laws. America needs freedom!)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

It does not matter where you start. It’s where you end up that matters.

Nice to see the Smoot/Hawley contingent chime in, tho. People need to be reminded just how silly and dangerous you really are.


10 posted on 09/15/2012 3:57:58 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: freedumb2003

There’s some song that says “but if you go carrying pictures of chairman mao you ain’t gonna make it with anyone anyhow.” They want to know who wrote it and they want an apology.


11 posted on 09/15/2012 3:58:11 PM PDT by Larry Lucido (Romney/Ryan 2012)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

War and rumors of war...


12 posted on 09/15/2012 3:59:23 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Lurker

Right back at you.

Smoot/Hawley was foolish when it was done, because back then American made everything.

Now the exact reverse is at play. America imports everything, and we now have a 16 billion trade deficit.

Not sustainable.

At all.


13 posted on 09/15/2012 3:59:59 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (America doesn't need any new laws. America needs freedom!)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

Dear reader’s comment on this new international situation:

< crickets >


14 posted on 09/15/2012 4:02:36 PM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

There will be wars, and rumors of wars.

This is only the beginning.


15 posted on 09/15/2012 4:06:13 PM PDT by crz
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Depends what you trade.


16 posted on 09/15/2012 4:08:09 PM PDT by crz
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

We don’t import “everything”. And there is no such thing as a trade deficit. We give them money. They give us stuff. The books balance at the end of the day.

Only childish and fools believe in trade deficits.


17 posted on 09/15/2012 4:09:21 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: crz

After a certain point, no it doesn’t depend on what you trade anymore.

We are past that point.

It is time to bring industrial production back. Back to America.


18 posted on 09/15/2012 4:10:16 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (America doesn't need any new laws. America needs freedom!)
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To: crz

I see and hear the labor pains... I think there is a “baby” about to be born... I kid not! Prepare your hearts and minds people!


19 posted on 09/15/2012 4:10:16 PM PDT by Anti-Hillary (Barry, Barry quite contrary, how does your government grow?...)
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To: DeaconBenjamin

From Wikipedia, for what it’s worth:

“The United States occupied the islands from 1945 to 1972. Both the PRC and Japan indicated their sovereignty claims with respect to the islands to the United Nations Security Council at the time of the US transfer of its administrative powers to Japan. Sovereignty over the islands would give the owner exclusive oil, mineral and fishing rights in surrounding waters. Although the United States does not have an official position on the merits of the competing sovereignty claims, the islands are included within the U.S. Japan Security Treaty meaning that a defense of the islands by Japan may compel support from the United States military.” (reference citations present in the original Wikipedia article “Senkaku Islands Dispute”, but omitted here for clarity).

Note the last sentence in the quote above, and I think it’s pretty clear why the Red Chinese are pressing their claim now, given the dolt we have in the White House.


20 posted on 09/15/2012 4:12:03 PM PDT by Stosh
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Are we idiots?

Well, look who's driving...

21 posted on 09/15/2012 4:14:01 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Caipirabob

:D


22 posted on 09/15/2012 4:15:10 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (America doesn't need any new laws. America needs freedom!)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
Yup. Four more years of Obama and we'll all be in bunkers.

I don't know if Americans know how important this election really is, not only to them, but to the entire western world. An America that is weak economically or militarily is not good for world peace or the survival of the western way of life.

I think Obama knows this and is acting accordingly.

23 posted on 09/15/2012 4:17:05 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Obamanomics-We don't need your stinking tar sands oil, we'll just grow algae.)
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To: lightman

I doubt it. The Chinese kill separatists of every stripe. However, with the chaos the US is contending with post-9/11/12, they certainly could take advantage of our weakness to attack Japan in some form.


24 posted on 09/15/2012 4:19:48 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: DeaconBenjamin
lol is occupy and wikki leaks uniting the masses?
25 posted on 09/15/2012 4:25:23 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: DeaconBenjamin

Those Japanese, how am I play golf, and joy-ride in my 747...bothersome people...


26 posted on 09/15/2012 4:25:44 PM PDT by B212
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To: Anti-Hillary

All they need is a leader and the ten nation confederacy will be formed. The ten nation confederacy is Islamic, which is the false religion.

People who read revelation think in terms of the present. It isnt, it is in Johns time. Five have fallen, one is, and one is to come. The anti-christ will come from the old Greek empire and gain his power in the old Babylonian-Persian areas. Leopard, Lion and Bear. The Leopard signified Greece, The Lion, Babylon, and the Bear-Persia.


27 posted on 09/15/2012 4:28:41 PM PDT by crz
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Because people here charge above market prices to work.


28 posted on 09/15/2012 4:30:51 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

“we are simply de-industrializing America”

What’s the alternative, self-suffuciency? Ask the Nazis his that turns out.


29 posted on 09/15/2012 4:32:50 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

It is to cry. Pray November comes soon...cheers!


30 posted on 09/15/2012 4:32:56 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

his = how


31 posted on 09/15/2012 4:34:01 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

So Smooth Hawley was too much back then, and free trade is nit enough his. I wonder if you could explain how Washington knows how much protectionism is enough. It doesn’t seem to do too well with other Goldilicks problems. The Fed can never get inflation nor Congress the debt to GDP ratio “just right.”


32 posted on 09/15/2012 4:37:06 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

his = now

Why does that keep happening?


33 posted on 09/15/2012 4:38:07 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: DeaconBenjamin

Troubling development.


34 posted on 09/15/2012 4:42:14 PM PDT by matt1234 (As Obama sowed in the Arab Spring, so he is reaping in the Arab Fall.)
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To: lightman

AQ has always been taking orders from China. The Chinese always use proxy forces. By paying AQ, the Chinese Myslims are not so “restless”.


35 posted on 09/15/2012 4:44:49 PM PDT by datura
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To: lightman

AQ has always been taking orders from China. The Chinese always use proxy forces. By paying AQ, the Chinese Myslims are not so “restless”.


36 posted on 09/15/2012 4:47:20 PM PDT by datura
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To: Lurker

“..I know there’s one idiot on this thread..”

Civilized debate doesn’t require liberal techniques. There is a BIG difference between “protectionism” and sending jobs and wealth to our enemies. Free trade should be fair trade and absolutely nothing is fair with China.


37 posted on 09/15/2012 5:51:21 PM PDT by enduserindy (Conservative Dead Head)
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To: Tublecane

“What’s the alternative, self-suffuciency? Ask the Nazis his that turns out.”

Poor comparison considering the US has an abundance of natural resources and Germany had zip. Not even enough farm land in the 30’s as I recall. It is ludicrous to expect Americans to serve industry as Chinese do. Borderline slave labor and in case you missed it the slave wages have been creeping higher and higher up the ladder. I get really pissed when some one tries to paint the trade situation with China in a rose color. We will either return our industrial might or we will fade away but make no mistake one of the 2 will happen. BTW if Germany had left Russia and Britain alone would have worked out great for them.


38 posted on 09/15/2012 6:06:05 PM PDT by enduserindy (Conservative Dead Head)
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To: enduserindy

It did leave Britain alone, at least until Britain declared war on it. And no, it wouldn’t have ended so spectacularly. But it would have failed.

Even with our resources autarchy would produce what they call a “vampire economy,” in which we feed off preexisting capital until we die.


39 posted on 09/15/2012 6:19:08 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: enduserindy

“borderline slave labor”

That’s there problem, not ours.


40 posted on 09/15/2012 6:20:13 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: enduserindy

there =their


41 posted on 09/15/2012 6:21:03 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: enduserindy

“There is a BIG difference between ‘protectionism’ and sending jobs and wealth to our enemies”

Are your argument wires crossed? We know that. I think you mean to say there’s a difference between bad protectionism and whatever it is you advocate.

“free trade should be fair trade”

Fair trade is protectionism. Free trade is free trade.


42 posted on 09/15/2012 6:26:23 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: TexasFreeper2009

America’s day in the sun is no more.


43 posted on 09/15/2012 6:45:46 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: crz

You are correct. I have myself, after intense study, have come to the same conclusion.


44 posted on 09/15/2012 11:16:21 PM PDT by Anti-Hillary (Barry, Barry quite contrary, how does your government grow?...)
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To: crz

You are correct. I have myself, after intense study, have come to the same conclusion.


45 posted on 09/15/2012 11:16:32 PM PDT by Anti-Hillary (Barry, Barry quite contrary, how does your government grow?...)
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To: Tublecane

“Even with our resources autarchy would produce what they call a “vampire economy,” in which we feed off preexisting capital until we die.”

And sending all that capital, industrial jobs and technology to Communist China is healthy? I think our interests would have been better served elsewhere.


46 posted on 09/16/2012 11:15:55 AM PDT by enduserindy (Conservative Dead Head)
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To: Tublecane

Its is our problem if we are competing with slave labor. Advocating slave labor for the US? I believe in free trade but only with nations on par with us in standard of living and freedom and that are not seeking to harm us. China fails both of those tests.


47 posted on 09/16/2012 12:45:48 PM PDT by enduserindy (Conservative Dead Head)
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To: Tublecane
What’s the alternative, self-suffuciency? Ask the Nazis his that turns out.

The Chinese use of rural population as a vast labor pool is more reminiscent of Nazi use of foreign and slave labor to achieve peak industrial output in late 1944.

As far as not doing business with China, didn't an enforced policy of not doing business with adversaries during the cold war work out fairly well?

48 posted on 09/17/2012 2:54:43 AM PDT by fso301
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