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ISAF Provides More Details on Camp Bastion Attack (15 Taliban Infiltrated in U.S. Army Uniforms)
Department of Defense ^ | Saturday, September 15, 2012

Posted on 09/15/2012 7:09:15 PM PDT by kristinn

From an International Security Assistance Force Joint Command News Release

KABUL, Afghanistan, Sept. 15, 2012 – International Security Assistance Force officials are providing additional details about the Sept. 14 attack on Camp Bastion in Afghanistan’s Helmand province in which two coalition service members were killed when insurgents attacked the base’s airfield.

Because it is still early in the investigation of this attack, information is subject to change as new details become available, officials said.

The attack commenced just after 10 p.m., officials said, when approximately 15 insurgents executed a well-coordinated attack against the airfield on Camp Bastion. The insurgents, organized into three teams, penetrated at one point of the base’s perimeter fence, officials said.

The insurgents appeared to be well-equipped, trained and rehearsed, officials said. Dressed in U.S. Army uniforms and armed with automatic rifles, rocket-propelled grenade launchers and suicide vests, the insurgents attacked coalition fixed- and rotary-wing aircraft parked on the flight line, aircraft hangars and other buildings, officials said.

Six coalition AV-8B Harrier jets were destroyed and two were significantly damaged, said officials, noting three coalition refueling stations were destroyed. Six soft-skin aircraft hangars were damaged to some degree.

Coalition forces engaged the insurgents, killing 14 and wounding one who was taken into custody, officials said.

In addition to the two coalition service members that were killed, nine coalition personnel -- eight military and one civilian contractor -- were wounded in the attack, officials said. None of their injuries are considered life-threatening.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911ii; afghanistan; campbastion; kabul; taliban
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Prayers that our troops get better leadership soon.
1 posted on 09/15/2012 7:09:22 PM PDT by kristinn
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To: Lancey Howard

ping


2 posted on 09/15/2012 7:12:00 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: kristinn

I have a family member in that camp right now. Pray hard


3 posted on 09/15/2012 7:13:08 PM PDT by Josa
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To: kristinn

4 posted on 09/15/2012 7:21:10 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: kristinn

Wearing the uniforms of another army during war is grounds to be shot on sight.

Then again those are the rules if we were fighting with a real man in charge. Or with a real army on the other side.


5 posted on 09/15/2012 7:26:21 PM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: Josa

Believe me I am praying very hard. Hope you hear from your family member and that they are ok. My son is scheduled to deploy at the end of this year.


6 posted on 09/15/2012 7:27:15 PM PDT by heylady (“Sometimes I wish I could be a Democrat and then I remember I have a soul.”( Deb))
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To: kristinn

15 goat bumpers just managed to destroy millions of dollars worth of equipment. The base commander should be shot for this.


7 posted on 09/15/2012 7:30:15 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: All
CNN via Twitter:

Breaking: there has been another insider attack in Afghanistan. ISAF tells Barbara Starr service members killed in incident w/Afghan police

And:

ISAF says 4 service members were killed in that latest incident, the second today. No word yet on nationalities in this attack.

8 posted on 09/15/2012 7:31:07 PM PDT by kristinn (Dump the Chump in 2012)
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To: kristinn

They went after the planes and fuel.

Iran has threatened to go into Kuwait.

Is Prince Salman still running things while Saudi King Abdullah is ill?/out of the country?

I think something big is about to happen...
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Saudi Prince Bandar and the ruling family protection plans (30 credits)
Posted on: Tue, Sep 11, 2012

Chief of the Saudi General Intelligence Prince Bandar Bin Sultan Bin Abdulaziz, who also acts as Secretary-General of the Saudi National Security Council (NSC), is said to be currently reviewing all the security plans that are used to protect the ruling Al-Saud family against possible attacks by Al-Qaeda. The following 480-word report sheds light on the subject and tells what about Prince Bandar’s task in this regard.


9 posted on 09/15/2012 7:33:15 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Lurker

God only knows what morale is like over there now thanks to Obama.


10 posted on 09/15/2012 7:33:46 PM PDT by kristinn (Dump the Chump in 2012)
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To: kristinn

There was a survey of soldiers released recently. Morale is real bad. :(


11 posted on 09/15/2012 7:36:12 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: VanDeKoik
None of us should be fooled. This is a real army. This army uses roes (think suicide vests) similar to a past army, and will die at the drop of a hat. Also this army uses all international law against our Military though obeys no international law and is supported by the majority of the world when America and her Allies cry foul. They are on home turf, they use the lay of the land and all means to gather intelligence on how and when to strike. The only way to defeat them will never be used till Americans are completely angry and ready to do what has to be done. Probably that time will never come, thus one always has to be on guard and ready for anything. Sad, yet true.

Please excuse my rant FRiend. It saddens me to see our Military and our Allies have to fight these scum with our hands bound behind our back just to make it fair, because our leaders have deemed it to be this way.

12 posted on 09/15/2012 7:38:29 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: Josa

Prayers up for your family member in Camp Bastion.


13 posted on 09/15/2012 7:42:35 PM PDT by Domestic Church (AMDG ... there is no such thing as coincidence)
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To: kristinn
15 Taliban Infiltrated in U.S. Army Uniforms

Let me guess ...
someone in the state department had the brilliant idea to give some afghans jobs doing laundry on the base.
14 posted on 09/15/2012 7:47:03 PM PDT by Lera (Proverbs 29:2)
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To: Army Air Corps

ping


15 posted on 09/15/2012 7:47:49 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (The pundits have forgotten the 2010 election.)
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To: Josa

Prayers up for you both.


16 posted on 09/15/2012 8:01:03 PM PDT by kristinn (Dump the Chump in 2012)
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To: Lurker

“15 goat bumpers”

Speaking of which.....the women here in Afghanistan are particularly abusive to the donkeys, goats and sheep....they hate their competition.

Back to the story....these uniforms can be purchased on the internet.....including name tags.


17 posted on 09/15/2012 8:04:59 PM PDT by Puckster
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To: Gene Eric

Thanks for the ping.


18 posted on 09/15/2012 8:36:59 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Josa
I have a family member in that camp right now. Pray hard

You have my prayers for your family member. I am praying for all of our military members serving under this despicable Commander in Chief.

19 posted on 09/15/2012 8:37:28 PM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: Puckster
...these uniforms can be purchased on the internet.....including name tags.

Yep, and presumably everybody knows it. That would include the brass at Leatherneck and Bastion.

20 posted on 09/15/2012 8:39:52 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: kristinn
Six coalition AV-8B Harrier jets were destroyed and two were significantly damaged

There aren't many spare Harriers and the production lines are closed. Could be a permanent loss to the Marines, who are the service that flies the Harriers.

21 posted on 09/15/2012 8:40:24 PM PDT by Fractal Trader
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To: Lancey Howard

“That would include the brass at Leatherneck and Bastion.”

Let’s make that “tarnished” brass.


22 posted on 09/15/2012 9:27:48 PM PDT by Puckster
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To: kristinn
Dressed in U.S. Army uniforms...

And how, pray tell, did these people just happen to come across more than a dozen U.S. Army uniforms? Just the most basic items is at least 5 items of clothing each. Did all of the boots just happen to all be the right size too or was somebody clunking around in size 8 feet in size 11 boots with socks stuffed in the toes?
Were they stripped from dead soldiers? Did they buy them at the PX? Did soldiers barter them for local items?

Just a few of the many questions this factoid raises.

23 posted on 09/15/2012 9:58:49 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: kristinn

Camp Bastion is situated in the middle of the desert with excellent visibility all around, it accommodates 28,000 mostly British personnel. Camp Leatherneck is the U.S. side of the Base. The bigger question is how were the Taliban able to penetrate a secure military base, with a perimeter fence, which is protected by hi-tech detection systems. The insurgents were wearing U.S. Army uniforms, the attackers toted automatic rifles, rocket-propelled grenade launchers and suicide vests. Start using roving patrols with night vision goggles, flares, trip wires, Guard dogs, get out of this fortress mentality and start protecting yourselves! All this happened around 9/11, they picked this date for a reason. Don’t be as stupid as the State Department!


24 posted on 09/15/2012 10:03:43 PM PDT by Colorado Cowgirl (God bless America!)
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To: VanDeKoik

Placemark.


25 posted on 09/15/2012 10:05:46 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Puckster
...these uniforms can be purchased on the internet.....including name tags.
What a convenient answer. Kevlar helmets, boots...the whole rig?

Not a thoughtful answer, IMO.

26 posted on 09/15/2012 10:06:48 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36

Pssst......It’s not a secret, they’ve used internet purchased uniforms before.

I work over here in Afghanistan....it’s no longer a matter of giving away an idea.....they have the idea already.

Your IMO is like suggesting that they can buy AK47s on the internet is giving away an idea they don’t have already....you’ve just simply haven’t heard of it yourself.


27 posted on 09/15/2012 10:42:18 PM PDT by Puckster
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To: Puckster
I work over here in Afghanistan....
Pssst...I don't give a damn where you work!

Pssst......It’s not a secret, they’ve used internet purchased uniforms before.

Are you telling me that you can buy a Kevlar helmet on the Internet?

28 posted on 09/15/2012 10:48:29 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Puckster
Never mind...I found out on my own...
here.

So the vendors don't have any restrictions on where purchases come from or are shipped to?

Isn't the sale of many items restricted to US citizens only?

29 posted on 09/15/2012 11:07:59 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36

A quick search turned up plenty of Kevlar helmets for sale.

The issue isn’t that they can get US uniforms, it’s that they could use them to get close enough to do that amount of damage.

Defense against those willing to die to strike a blow is always a tough problem.


30 posted on 09/15/2012 11:08:29 PM PDT by M1911A1
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To: Puckster
For instance...Export Policy and Export Restrictions Information

Several items on the website may require an export license, including, but not limited to, the following:

6. Military Apparel including Body Armor, Helmets and Helmet Accessories, and Shields

31 posted on 09/15/2012 11:16:56 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: M1911A1
A quick search turned up plenty of Kevlar helmets for sale.
For sale to who? Overseas purchasers?

See 31. Some sales are restricted, even for helmets.

32 posted on 09/15/2012 11:20:10 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: M1911A1
... it’s that they could use them to get close enough to do that amount of damage.
I call BS on that. They've used their own uniforms to do that already many times over.

Why the need for US uniforms?

33 posted on 09/15/2012 11:23:05 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36

All of which, if there is a government shell company, can be satisfied......the conditions thereof.

Are we good now?


34 posted on 09/15/2012 11:45:15 PM PDT by Puckster
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To: Puckster

Video posted at the Independent
http://bcove.me/udxglcid


35 posted on 09/15/2012 11:49:01 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: combat_boots

Can’t watch the video, we are locked out of most streaming media.


36 posted on 09/15/2012 11:50:40 PM PDT by Puckster
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To: Puckster
...if there is a government shell company...

I see.
So we have to enter tin foil hat territory.

Are we good now?
Under your purported "government shell company" scenario?
I read fiction quite a lot so what difference does it make in this instance.
Sure, we're good now.

37 posted on 09/15/2012 11:51:32 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Puckster

Well it doesn’t show much. It appears to be a brief part of the attack on the base in Afghanistan, or it claims to be anyway. It mostly shows smoke.


38 posted on 09/15/2012 11:52:19 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: combat_boots

Got a different link? That one doesn’t seem to show anything.


39 posted on 09/15/2012 11:56:12 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36

Let me make myself clear.....if a company in Afghanistan, associated with the government is given the requisite rights......?

Terps here wear the same uniforms as the Marines and I’ve asked but those that I’ve asked are unsure where they get them.

It is entirely possible they, the Marines, issue them, but at this point I am not knowing.

Also, I’ve just been e-mailed by someone on this particular post who’s son Ebay’d his cammie’s(without name tags) after he got out.

Check it out.

Tin foil hats....good one.

We really are not talking about a tight system here.


40 posted on 09/16/2012 12:02:31 AM PDT by Puckster
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To: philman_36

http://www.independent.co.uk/


41 posted on 09/16/2012 12:09:29 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: philman_36

I don’t think that’s tinfoil hat territory, but it’s more likely that a private purchaser could buy the stuff in the US and just ship it, or even more likely, it’s purchased private part on Ebay, or it’s purchased on the black market outside the US. American uniforms, or clothes close enough to pass for GI at a distance, aren’t exactly hen’s teeth.

As to why the “goat bumpers” would want to look like GI’s in order to get suicide vest close to a Harrier...dig up Otto Skorzeny and ask him. The Taliban aren’t exactly decked out in Mess Dress when they are doing their dirty work to begin with, and the threat of being shot as a spy is pretty small potatoes if you are planning to blow yourself up to begin with.

Don’t get my wrong, I despise those maniacs, and I believe we should either be killing them wholesale instead of retail, or leaving them to sit in their own filth and just smacking Hell out of ‘em if they ever bother us again, but they are ruthless and cunning and they certainly won’t let something like an export law or any treaties or rules regarding uniforms bother them.


42 posted on 09/16/2012 12:17:46 AM PDT by M1911A1
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Let me make myself clear.....if a company in Afghanistan, associated with the government is given the requisite rights......?
You're not clear at all!
Given rights to do what? Sell gear they're not authorized by law to sell in the States, much less overseas in a war zone?!?
Speculation. Not a good thing at all. You know or you don't! You make your statements as if you know when you don't.

Terps here wear the same uniforms as the Marines...
Well since they're deployed with our soldiers doesn't it seem logical to dress them the same so that they don't get shot as an enemy combatant?

...at this point I am not knowing.
What interesting phraseology you have.

Also, I’ve just been e-mailed by someone on this particular post who’s son Ebay’d his cammie’s(without name tags) after he got out.
SO WHAT! There is no restriction on selling personal clothing at this point in time.
Your claim is that the entire uniforms, meaning the associated gear as well, were bought on the Internet. I've shown that there are uniform items that can't be sold except in certain circumstances.
And what about the weapons? How were they armed? Did they arm themselves through the Internet as well?

Did these foreign fighters not have battle helmets on?
Or are you not knowing that either despite your proximity?

43 posted on 09/16/2012 12:27:04 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: M1911A1
I'm not even going to bother replying to your arguments as it sounds like nothing more than agitprop which always has a ready excuse or explanation for everything.
44 posted on 09/16/2012 12:48:21 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: kristinn

“Prayers that our troops get better leadership soon.”

Praying with you.


45 posted on 09/16/2012 12:53:52 AM PDT by MEG33 (O Lord, Guide Our Nation)
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To: Josa

Praying for your family member and all our brave military in harm’s way..Hope you hear from them soon.

God bless them for their service .


46 posted on 09/16/2012 12:58:18 AM PDT by MEG33 (O Lord, Guide Our Nation)
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To: philman_36

What’s your theory on how and why a bunch of Taliban suicide fanatics would get decked out in US uniforms? These are the same folks who were building SMLE rifles in crude machine shops when the Russians were trying to subjugate the place. I don’t think obtaining or manufacturing clothes is beyond their capabilities.

Flying false flags and wearing enemy uniforms are ruses as old as warfare itself. What makes it so unlikely that these dirtbags would continue an age old practice?


47 posted on 09/16/2012 1:12:13 AM PDT by M1911A1
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To: philman_36

I take it that you are of the opinion that there is no way that they can get this equipment illegally shipped.

That’s right, no gun shop has ever sold weapons to Mexico illegally, because it’s forbidden by law.

The Taliban, in the Leatherneck attack, were not the ones that acquired the equipment, obviously someone higher up the chain knows how to acquire these items.

You have a lot of angst, and I take it you don’t think anything comes in or out of this country illegally.

I really can’t do anything about your belief system.

You started out with that it can’t be purchased,,,it can.

Then you said it can’t get out of the country illegally....stuff has.

The only thing I’m struggling to understand is why still the angst?

I take it your still upset with me mentioning that it can be bought on-line.


48 posted on 09/16/2012 1:14:27 AM PDT by Puckster
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To: Puckster

Some people just don’t understand the big picture in Afghanistan. Many supply caravan trucks are driven by locals and in many cases protected by locals. Some protection forces have given up routes to the Taliban and trucks have been seized by the Taliban. Low tech supplies like clothing could easily be obtained by the Taliban.

The main problem is that we are trying to make this land of a thousand tribes one civilized nation, and that isn’t going to happen, especially as long as they embrace Islam. We need to drop our ROE and withdrawl all troops and resources from that God forsaken country. If they rise up again, we can bomb them from the air. This “nation building” idea is a complete and total waste of time, lives, and money.


49 posted on 09/16/2012 4:38:12 AM PDT by ScubieNuc (When there is no justice in the laws, justice is left to the outlaws.)
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To: ScubieNuc

A better course would be to simply kill Taliban and their families. Their locations are known and they should simply be killed off, by the thousands. The families are the shields that prevent death. The shields should be removed by destruction.

The zealotry that provides Taliban motivation should be reason enough to kill them off, all of them, wives, children, mothers, grandmothers ......all

Their protection allows their existence that allows them to support the efforts of the menfolk. They are the enemy as well and must be destroyed.


50 posted on 09/16/2012 4:54:13 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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