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Posted on 09/15/2012 8:07:10 PM PDT by smoothsailing
September 15, 2012
Daniel Greenfield
You have to go all the way back to Jimmy Carter in 1980 to find a Democratic candidate who’s polling worse among Jews than Obama is. And that’s no coincidence. Carter scored big numbers against Ford in 1976 only to lose a major chunk of Jewish supporters after four years of pro-Terrorist policies that undermined Israel and security and stability in the Middle East.
Obama reportedly scored 76 percent of the Jewish vote in 2008. Carter picked up 71 percent in 1976. By 1980, Carter was down to 45 percent. The latest polls show Obama down to 59 percent among Jews.
No Democrat has ever won the White House with that low a share of the vote. The Democratic candidates who scored that low, Carter in 1980, Dukakis, Mondale, McGovern, Adlai Stevenson, were all losers who went on to lose the election. To find a Democratic presidential candidate who won less than 60 percent of the Jewish vote and still won the White House, you have to go back 96 years to the election of 1916 where Woodrow Wilson had 55 percent of the Jewish vote against 45 percent for Republican Chris Evans Hughes. And that was considered a very close election.
The Jewish vote does not determine elections, but it is a sign of the loss of support. Romney is taking a Reagan sized bite of the Catholic vote and is within 4 percent of matching Reagan’s numbers among Jews.
Jewish people and the Democrats who crap on them. Never understood that one.
It is amazing that it is that high right now.
Nevermind the Jews. How could any clear thinking, tax paying, human vote for this man?
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That’s because there are two kinds of Jews, the ones who care about Israel, and the ones who could care less. The Jews who could care less are the ones who vote Dem
But then maybe he does and the media and media polls don't reflect it.
It’s about time. Now, if only the blacks and the Hispanics wake up...
Yes. But if the majority aren’t voting for him, it’s being hidden by the powers that be and the liberal media. I can’t imagine why anyone would vote for this empty chair. Like Rush has said, to lose this election in and by itself may not destroy America but what is more frightening is that a majority (or close to it, probably aided by voter fraud) speaks louder for America. But at that point, this wonderful country will cease to exist as we know to know it. It will be Amerika. God help us.
1912: Wilson, Roosevelt, Taft and Debs: The Election That Changed the Country
James Chace, Joel H. Rosenthal
http://www.carnegiecouncil.org/studio/transcripts/5029.html
I’ve got to think Romney is doing better than we are being led to believe by most news sources, even those who show him slightly ahead.
When I see an article like this that compares Romney’s support from Jews and Catholics to Ronald Reagan’s, I think we are looking at a landslide come November. :)
We currently have a president who clearly sympathizes with nations who wish to wipe Israel (and Jews) off the face of the earth. A president who had no time to speak with the Prime Minister of Israel in a time of grave crisis, yet has time to do the Letterman show and yuk it up with radio DJs (i.e. Pimp with a Limp) and yet apparently 59% of Jews are still voting for the guy!
Somebody needs to explain this to the rest of us.
...1916 where Woodrow Wilson had 55 percent of the Jewish vote against 45 percent for Republican Chris Evans Hughes.In 1912 Wilson rec'd a minority of the popular vote, but the largest plurality. Socialist Eugene V. Debs didn't run that year; it may be worth a look to see what his Jewish support had been in 1912, Debs polled strongly in NY state. By 1920 Wilson had seen to it that Debs was in prison. After WWI and his trip to Paris, Wilson's health problems didn't dissuade him from tacitly seeking a third term at the 1920 convention, but the Demwits weren't havin' it. OTOH, Debs ran again, from prison, receiving nearly a million votes.
I agree. If this plays out across the board we are in for a real treat come Election Day. Reagan carried 44 states and garnered 489 Electoral Votes!
You are so right. One of my doggie park friends who is Jewish and a pubbie told me that he and most Jews in our area consider Israel to be an issue of little concern to them. I will not judge this. But I do wish it was different.
Dennis Prager wrote a good column about the reason Jews (and blacks) vote Democrat...
http://jewishworldreview.com/0103/prager.html
LOL, me too Jaz!
At the very least the margin of victory has to be beyond the Obots ability to cover with dead voters and other Chicago tactics.
1980 Presidential Election The American Presidency Project by Gerhard Peters
Electoral Popular Political Party Presidential Nom. VP Nom. # % # % Republican Ronald Reagan George Bush 489 90.9 43,904,153 50.7 Democratic Jimmy Carter
Walter Mondale 49 9.1 35,483,883 41.0 National Union Patrick Lucey 0 0.0 5,720,060 6.6
STATE T. VOTES Votes % EV Votes % EV Votes % EV Alabama 1,341,929 654,192 48.8 9 636,730 47.4 16,481 1.2 Alaska 158,445 86,112 54.3 3 41,842 26.4 11,155 7.0 Arizona 873,945 529,688 60.6 6 246,843 28.2 76,952 8.8 Arkansas 837,582 403,164 48.1 6 398,041 47.5 22,468 2.7 California 8,587,063 4,524,858 52.7 45 3,083,661 35.9 739,833 8.6 Colorado 1,184,415 652,264 55.1 7 367,973 31.1 130,633 11.0 Connecticut 1,406,285 677,210 48.2 8 541,732 38.5 171,807 12.2 Delaware 235,900 111,252 47.2 3 105,754 44.8 16,288 6.9 Dist. of Col. 175,237 23,545 13.4 131,113 74.8 3 16,337 9.3 Florida 3,686,930 2,046,951 55.5 17 1,419,475 38.5 189,692 5.1 Georgia 1,596,695 654,168 41.0 890,733 55.8 12 36,055 2.3 Hawaii 303,287 130,112 42.9 135,879 44.8 4 32,021 10.6 Idaho 437,431 290,699 66.5 4 110,192 25.2 27,058 6.2 Illinois 4,749,721 2,358,049 49.6 26 1,981,413 41.7 346,754 7.3 Indiana 2,242,033 1,255,656 56.0 13 844,197 37.7 111,639 5.0 Iowa 1,317,661 676,026 51.3 8 508,672 38.6 115,633 8.8 Kansas 979,795 566,812 57.9 7 326,150 33.3 68,231 7.0 Kentucky 1,294,627 635,274 49.1 9 616,417 47.6 31,127 2.4 Louisiana 1,548,591 792,853 51.2 10 708,453 45.7 26,345 1.7 Maine 523,011 238,522 45.6 4 220,974 42.3 53,327 10.2 Maryland 1,540,496 680,606 44.2 726,161 47.1 10 119,537 7.8 Massachusetts 2,522,890 1,057,631 41.9 14 1,053,802 41.7 382,539 15.2 Michigan 3,909,725 1,915,225 49.0 21 1,661,532 42.5 275,223 7.0 Minnesota 2,051,980 873,268 42.6 954,174 46.5 10 174,990 8.5 Mississippi 892,620 441,089 49.4 7 429,281 48.1 12,036 1.3 Missouri 2,099,824 1,074,181 51.2 12 931,182 44.3 77,920 3.7 Montana 363,952 206,814 56.8 4 118,032 32.4 29,281 8.0 Nebraska 640,854 419,937 65.5 5 166,851 26.0 44,993 7.0 Nevada 247,885 155,017 62.5 3 66,666 26.9 17,651 7.1 New Hampshire 383,990 221,705 57.7 4 108,864 28.4 49,693 12.9 New Jersey 2,975,684 1,546,557 52.0 17 1,147,364 38.6 234,632 7.9 New Mexico 456,971 250,779 54.9 4 167,826 36.7 29,459 6.4 New York 6,201,959 2,893,831 46.7 41 2,728,372 44.0 467,801 7.5 North Carolina 1,855,833 915,018 49.3 13 875,635 47.2 52,800 2.8 North Dakota 301,545 193,695 64.2 3 79,189 26.3 23,640 7.8 Ohio 4,283,603 2,206,545 51.5 25 1,752,414 40.9 254,472 5.9 Oklahoma 1,149,708 695,570 60.5 8 402,026 35.0 38,284 3.3 Oregon 1,181,516 571,044 48.3 6 456,890 38.7 112,389 9.5 Pennsylvania 4,561,501 2,261,872 49.6 27 1,937,540 42.5 292,921 6.4 Rhode Island 416,072 154,793 37.2 198,342 47.7 4 59,819 14.4 South Carolina 894,071 441,841 49.4 8 430,385 48.1 14,153 1.6 South Dakota 327,703 198,343 60.5 4 103,855 31.7 21,431 6.5 Tennessee 1,617,616 787,761 48.7 10 783,051 48.4 35,991 2.2 Texas 4,541,636 2,510,705 55.3 26 1,881,147 41.4 111,613 2.5 Utah 604,222 439,687 72.8 4 124,266 20.6 30,284 5.0 Vermont 213,299 94,628 44.4 3 81,952 38.4 31,761 14.9 Virginia 1,866,032 989,609 53.0 12 752,174 40.3 95,418 5.1 Washington 1,742,394 865,244 49.7 9 650,193 37.3 185,073 10.6 West Virginia 737,715 334,206 45.3 367,462 49.8 6 31,691 4.3 Wisconsin 2,273,221 1,088,845 47.9 11 981,584 43.2 160,657 7.1 Wyoming 176,713 110,700 62.6 3 49,427 28.0 12,072 6.8 Totals 86,513,813 43,904,153 50.7 489 35,483,883 41.0 49 5,720,060 6.6 0
That’s a very good article by Prager.
That high after giving Hamas all that money to kill Jews. Shows hot this country has lots of non-religious Jews in the Democrat party.
and Carter managed to carry West Virginia and Georgia, that ain’t happening for the Bumster.
They can't, which is a big part of the problem we currently face. Very close to 50% of Americans do not qualify as clear thinking, tax paying, humans any more.
That's the whole reason this guy was elected in the first place
“How could any clear thinking, tax paying, human vote for this man?”
Obama has turned American foreign policy against Israel.
Over the last four years he has weakened our economy, caused increases in poverty and dependency, degraded our military and set us up for national bankruptcy with astronomical debt.
On top of this the party he leads champions gay marriage and wants to force taxpayers to cover the costs for killing thousands of unborn babies with government paid abortions.
As Paul Ryan said yesterday:
“President Obama likes to say, ‘We’re all in this together.’ Yet how hollow it sounds coming from a politician who has never once lifted a hand to defend the most helpless and innocent of all human beings, the child waiting to be born.”
I can’t say I’m surprised but it’s a little bittersweet.
People who have no connection dont really care, that is the way it is, its unfortunate but its true. I was in Israel in June for my sisters wedding so I see Israel differently than those who havent been there. I have family there and I dont want to see Israel destroyed. Jews who have no connection to Israel just don’t care what happens.
Jews fear white Christians without distinction between US Christians and European Christians and see the Republican party as the party of the Christian Religion. All down to a misguided historical fear - the motivation for Jews voting democrat.
Interesting thought starter.
My father in law is Catholic and thinks very highly of himself and his loyalty to the Democrat party.
Irrationality certainly seems in play. Groupthink is a powerful motivator and subjects one to easy manipulation.
Thanks.
:o)
Lol, I love that gif. Thanks SS!
That’s an interesting, well-written article. Now when you consider that it was written in 2003, and one couples that thinking with the overbearing, ridiculously overdone meme over the past few years of everything any white has ever done being racist, one develops hope for Jewish and Black voters. Maybe.
and I cannot think of one Jewish friend I ever knew who wasn't concerned about how the US dealt with Israel...not even the liberal/progressive ones who were the vast majority
the scores of liberal Jews I have known have usually said Israel and keeping a lid on Christian Conservatives ...and the Messianic Social stuff they love/genuine Christians hate... are what propel their voting ideology
I am aware of Jews ambivalent about Israel like Chomsky or Chris Hitchens..RIP...but I never knew one I can recall offhand
Obama’s utter contempt for Israel hanging on in a sea of madness ...particularly when governed by a real man like Bibi which must drive Obama and Cankles crazy..is in my estimation what has peeled off 20% more Jews than usual who would ordinarily vote for leftist manna...which is why it is bittersweet...those in question will vote for policies killing traditional America but they will wake up when their kin in Israel are being maligned by the same turd they elected and propagandize for here to begin with
better than nothing but as Americans their motivation should converge here first then there
The blacks will never wake up, they are blinded by their racism.
Hispanics on the other hand can be reasonable.
Interesting article. Thanks.
Catholics aren’t nearly as skewed towards the Dems as the Jews have been.
http://cara.georgetown.edu/Presidential%20Vote%20Only.pdf
Jewish people and the Democrats who crap on them. Never understood that one.
Jews fear white Christians without distinction between US Christians and European Christians and see the Republican party as the party of the Christian Religion. All down to a misguided historical fear - the motivation for Jews voting democrat.
FYI, some happier news.
Mark Alan Siegel resigned on Friday, a day after he apologized for the remarks he had made two days earlier during an interview on the sidelines of the Democratic National Convention.
[snip]
Siegel had told the conservative Patriot Update website that as a Jew, he was "not a fan of any religion other than Judaism." Asked if he is a fan of Christianity, Siegel responded, according to the Palm Beach Post, "No, I'm not. The Christians just want us to be there so we can be slaughtered and converted and bring on the second coming of Jesus Christ."
He continued, “They’re not our friends. They want Israel to pursue policies which are antithetical with its security and existence. The worst possible allies for the Jewish state are the fundamentalist Christians, who want Jews to die and convert so they can bring on the second coming of their Lord. It is a false friendship. They are seeking their own ends and not ours.”
http://www.thejewishweek.com/blogs/political-insider/florida-dem-leader-resigns-over-remarks-about-christian-zionists
Holy crapola. -E01
I’m Jewish, and I can explain it you very simply.
When the Jews lived in Europe, they went through periods where they were left alone and allowed to prosper, as well as periods where they were severely persecuted. This happened in practically every European country for a period of close to 2,000 years.
The pattern of Jewish migration in Europe started out as south to north (Spain, Italy and Southern France, then working their way up to Germany, England, Holland, etc), and then west to east, eventually winding up in places like Poland, the Ukraine, and Romania.
The Jews have always prided themselves on being educated and cultured. And when they lived in the big cities of Western Europe, many of their best friends and staunchest defenders were intellectuals. But when they found themselves in the boondocks of Eastern Europe, they felt uncomfortable there.
The vast majority of Jewish Americans are the children, grandchildren, and great grandchildren of Eastern European immigrants who fled the pogroms. So the most recent memory of antisemitism for Jewish Americans is stories that were passed down to them about how they were persecuted by the religious, rural, nationalistic, blond haired, blue eyed redneck Slavs from the sticks of Eastern Europe.
So when these Jewish immigrants came to America, they had an inherent distrust for the rural, religious, nationalistic, blond haired, blue eyed WASPs living in the American heartland. On top of that, most of these Jews lived in big cities like New York, Chicago, Philly, etc, where they were overjoyed to be around other ethinc minority groups like Blacks and Italian Catholics.
So they figured “if we’re nice to them, maybe they’ll be nice to us, and they’ll protect us from those hillbillies with their country music and their guns and pick up trucks.
In other words, the Jews are loyal to the Democrats based on a combination of elitism and fear that’s based on their ancestor’s experiences in Europe. There’s a Yiddish expression....”goyishakop”. It means the face of a non-jew. You will never hear a Jewish American refer to a Black person or a Latino or an Italian or an Asian as a goyishakop, even though none of them are Jewish. Goyishakop is reserved strictly for Nordic and Slavic looking people, as these are the people that these Jews foolishly live in fear of.
Re “Jewish people and the Democrats who crap on them.”
It’s the leftist version of the “trickle-down theory” but in this case, they crap on those below, including the dupes and dumbos of my faith who blindly believe their marxist propaganda. Also, they have tremendous guilt complexes for being successful.
I have friends who had legitimate guilt complexes because they survived Auschwitz while other family members and friends died. At least this complex was legitimate. Liberals have nothing to be guilty about but they fall for the leftist anti-free enterprise propaganda and want a “level playing field.”
“Nevermind the Jews. How could any clear thinking, tax paying, human vote for this man?”
They don’t. The ones who do vote for Obama are NOT thinking clearly and/or they don’t pay taxes.
I always like to end my day with something positive. (It helps me sleep better.) This is about as positive as it gets. Good night.
American Jews are ultra-liberal. Most of them, especially the young ones, really don’t care about the homeland or Bibi Netanyahu.
It is good, except that contrary to what he implies, Nazis were indeed Leftists by any rational definition.
It is good, except that contrary to what he implies, Nazis were indeed Leftists by any rational definition.
It is good, except that contrary to what he implies, Nazis were indeed Leftists by any rational definition.
It is good, except that contrary to what he implies, Nazis were indeed Leftists by any rational definition.
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