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Iran six-seven months from nuclear bomb capability: Netanyahu
Reuters ^ | Sept 16, 2012 | Reuters

Posted on 09/16/2012 7:14:34 AM PDT by Innovative

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu warned on Sunday that Iran would be on the brink of nuclear weapons capability in six to seven months, adding new urgency to his demand that President Barack Obama set a clear "red line" for Tehran in what could deepen the worst U.S.-Israeli rift in decades.

Taking his case to the American public, Netanyahu said in U.S. television interviews that by mid-2013, Iran would be 90 percent of the way toward enough enriched uranium for a bomb. He urged the United States to spell out limits that Tehran must not cross or else face military action - something Obama has refused to do.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Israel; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911iisundaytalkshows; iran; irannukes; israel; netanyahu; nucleariran; obama; waronterror
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To: Innovative
Did anyone see the interview? I'm curious if they discussed the "he said, they said" controversy.

The White House says that Netanyahu never requested a meeting with Obama, and the kneepad media is taking them at their word.

What does Netanyahu say? Did he request a meeting, or not?

21 posted on 09/16/2012 9:02:36 AM PDT by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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To: Innovative

Iran can legally refine to the 19.75% red line per the Non-Proliferation Treaty of 1970, ratified by the US and legally binding by us. Israel has never agreed to the NPT.

Iran has produced 189.4 kg of 19.75% enriched uranium as of August 2012 and is continuing to produce 12 kg/month. It is using this enrichment to create fuel plates and rods for electrical power generation.

If Iran wants weapons grade 90% it can easily do so at any time in a room the size of double car garage using the power needed by a refrigerator. Israel and ourselves will know if that happens.

The Fordow enrichment plant entrance is under 300 feet of bedrock. In one day, Iran could take enough 19.75% and scatter it to at least 10 locations that have enrichment cascades and turn it into 90% in a month.

Or they could give it to Venezuela, Burma, N Korea, Cuba, Syria, Iraq, yes I said Iraq and any other of the 190 countries that signed the NPT.

There is literally nothing we or Israel can do to stop Iran. Bombing only hardens them and delays the guaranteed inevitable weaponization.

Ask yourselves this: What if the attack doesn’t work? We and Israel would be laughed at and many countries previously named would follow Iran’s lead and buy uranium cascades from them.

The embargo has shut down about 10% of Iran’s economy and will increase that effect.

Iran will stop their nuclear weapons program forever only when the people of Iran choose to stop it. Attacking them only makes the problem worse.


22 posted on 09/16/2012 9:43:25 AM PDT by gandalftb (The art of diplomacy says "nice doggie", until you find a bigger rock.)
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To: Innovative

Iran can legally refine to the 19.75% red line per the Non-Proliferation Treaty of 1970, ratified by the US and legally binding by us. Israel has never agreed to the NPT.

Iran has produced 189.4 kg of 19.75% enriched uranium as of August 2012 and is continuing to produce 12 kg/month. It is using this enrichment to create fuel plates and rods for electrical power generation.

If Iran wants weapons grade 90% it can easily do so at any time in a room the size of double car garage using the power needed by a refrigerator. Israel and ourselves will know if that happens.

The Fordow enrichment plant entrance is under 300 feet of bedrock. In one day, Iran could take enough 19.75% and scatter it to at least 10 locations that have enrichment cascades and turn it into 90% in a month.

Or they could give it to Venezuela, Burma, N Korea, Cuba, Syria, Iraq, yes I said Iraq and any other of the 190 countries that signed the NPT.

There is literally nothing we or Israel can do to stop Iran. Bombing only hardens them and delays the guaranteed inevitable weaponization.

Ask yourselves this: What if the attack doesn’t work? We and Israel would be laughed at and many countries previously named would follow Iran’s lead and buy uranium cascades from them.

The embargo has shut down about 10% of Iran’s economy and will increase that effect.

Iran will stop their nuclear weapons program forever only when the people of Iran choose to stop it. Attacking them only makes the problem worse.


23 posted on 09/16/2012 9:43:56 AM PDT by gandalftb (The art of diplomacy says "nice doggie", until you find a bigger rock.)
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To: gandalftb

Oops, double hit. Maybe it needs to get posted twice to get some rational thinking started and for all of us to stop lapping up the Israeli PR machine.

I am absolutely opposed to Iran’s weaponization but I am more opposed to the ignorant slop going around about this problem.


24 posted on 09/16/2012 9:47:48 AM PDT by gandalftb (The art of diplomacy says "nice doggie", until you find a bigger rock.)
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To: gandalftb

Iran’s current production of 12 kg/month of 19.75% is about 4 bombs a year. That’s right now folks.

We have to shut down the rest of Iran’s economy and trade, now, to start a revolt in Iran. I’m talking food, whatever, shut it down.


25 posted on 09/16/2012 9:51:58 AM PDT by gandalftb (The art of diplomacy says "nice doggie", until you find a bigger rock.)
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To: Nachum; Cindy; G8 Diplomat; AdmSmith; Dog; nuconvert; Straight Vermonter; dervish; ...

ping

We need to get our shiite together.


26 posted on 09/16/2012 9:54:12 AM PDT by gandalftb (The art of diplomacy says "nice doggie", until you find a bigger rock.)
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To: Innovative; elhombrelibre; unixfox; old curmudgeon; cunning_fish; PghBaldy; DrC; himno hero; ...
Obama's response is to refuse to meet with Netanyahu...

On the lighter brighter side, he IS going on Letterman...

Consider this:

Iran sets up a meeting with Obama 6 months from now... at the UN or some such public place - TV cameras are present...

Five nukes explode over Israel.

An Iranian (maybe Ahmadinejad ) turns to the President and says, "We have nukes positioned in the United States - one in Washington DC, one in New York City, one in Chicago and others spread among your other cities."

Then with a telling arrogance he says, "Everyone in Israel is dead - there's nothing to fight over - the world can have peace now. The Jews are dead. There's no reason millions of American citizens must die. Those deaths won't bring Israel back..."

"Millions of Americans will die if you move against me - you must hear me out", he says. There's nervous laughter in the room. Obama says he needs more time. His SS agents move in to arrest Ahmadinejad.

A stolen suitcase nuke is exploded over MacDill AFB in Tampa.

Ahmadinejad tells the President to check with MacDill - that MacDill has been destroyed.

Panic sets in... The President of the United States is told to surrender or other American cities will be destroyed - one every 10 minutes... He also demands the United States disarm - his 'friends' - the Russians - will help with that process. Hesitation - and 2 more cities with CENTCOM centers are destroyed.

Obama is President - what do YOU think he'll do?

That's why we stand with Israel. We're in this with them - have no doubt about that... if they go down, we go down with them....

27 posted on 09/16/2012 9:57:01 AM PDT by GOPJ (first they came for those clinging to their guns and religion, and I did not speak out....)
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To: gandalftb

The attack should be against the Mullahs and the top command. Massive leader death will be more effective than trying to stop production.

The attack is assumed to be by air but it might have a ground component as well. Death of many people will be more effective than death of stuff


28 posted on 09/16/2012 10:02:47 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: gandalftb
What about the elephant(s) in the room?

Elephant

29 posted on 09/16/2012 10:09:26 AM PDT by bigheadfred
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To: A CA Guy

“I see bombing in Iran’s near future before the election is over.”

If he’d said Iran was 6-7 WEEKS away from a bomb, I could understand this logic. But if he has 6-7 months, what’s the urgency about attacking Iran prior to elections? What does he lose by waiting to see if Romney will help out? With the U.S. in its corner, Israeli’s odds of success in such an attack are greatly enhanced.


30 posted on 09/16/2012 10:18:54 AM PDT by DrC
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To: gandalftb; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; ...

Thanks gandalftb. This has been a steady drumbeat for four or five years now; between countermeasures like Stuxnet and piffin’ some Iranian bombbuilders, as well as technical issues that rose from time to time, and even some resistance in the upper echelons to the idea of building nuclear weapons, success has remained out of reach. My wild guess is, six to seven months is the timeframe because there’s no longer any countermeasures that will do the trick, other than making the whole nuke program go kablooey.


31 posted on 09/16/2012 10:20:43 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: bigheadfred

Amen, people need to look at a map. The Volga River, Russia’s Mississippi, empties into the Caspian Sea. Iran has a 600 mile shoreline on the Caspian Sea.

Until Russia stops trade with Iran we can’t put the cork in the bottle.


32 posted on 09/16/2012 10:33:15 AM PDT by gandalftb (The art of diplomacy says "nice doggie", until you find a bigger rock.)
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To: Innovative

I know.


33 posted on 09/16/2012 10:36:03 AM PDT by PghBaldy (I am sick of Obama's and Hillary's apologies to muslims, especially after 11 September 2012.)
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To: bert

The mullah’s in power are relative moderates compared to the Iranian Guards that would replace them, that believe the Imam will only come back if there is world war.

You don’t realize how deep the Armageddon jihadist nut cases are in Iran. There is already two military systems, the government and the Revolutionary Guards.

Killing the government leaders puts the Guards fully in charge and they are already running most of the nuke program.


34 posted on 09/16/2012 10:38:22 AM PDT by gandalftb (The art of diplomacy says "nice doggie", until you find a bigger rock.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Yup, we’ve been nipping at Iran’s heels fairly well but their leaders are not going to be re-educated by us or Israel.

Authentic and permanent political change has to come from the Iranian people or the leadership we kill off will be replaced by worse.

What no one is talking about is the true reason Iran wants nukes: They are not going to bomb the US or Israel and see themselves invaded by us.

Iran wants to demonstrate to Islam that Shiism is the true faith and leader for all muslims.

Iran fully understands that having the Shiite nuke elevates them to at least a peer in muslim prestige to Pakistan’s Sunni nuke.


35 posted on 09/16/2012 10:47:02 AM PDT by gandalftb (The art of diplomacy says "nice doggie", until you find a bigger rock.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Israel’s strategic reality is this:

They know Iran is not going to nuke them. But, if Iran gets the bomb, then the Saudi’s and Egyptians and Iraq’s and Syrians will demand nukes.

That nuke weapons pressure, of having border neighbors that Israel has already had several wars with, would be far more intimidating to Israel’s dream of annexing all of Palestine.


36 posted on 09/16/2012 10:52:45 AM PDT by gandalftb (The art of diplomacy says "nice doggie", until you find a bigger rock.)
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To: AFreeBird

Reading the history and heroism of Yonatan Netanyahu, including his correspondence with younger brother Benjamin taught me all I need to know about Bibi’s motivations.
I envy the leadership that Israel now enjoys. In troubled times, we definitely need better.


37 posted on 09/16/2012 10:57:21 AM PDT by JerseyDvl (Cogito Ergo Doleo Soetoro, ABO and of course FUBO!)
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To: Innovative

Sounds crazy, but the world is desperately waiting for SOMEONE to show some balls against the Islamists. God knows America hasn’t got any. God Bless Netanyahu. I’ll take a front row center seat when the bombing begins. Bye Bye Ahmadinejad.


38 posted on 09/16/2012 11:10:09 AM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: Innovative

6-7 months?

Every few weeks for the past few years someone comes up with an estimate of just a few month more - it’s like crying wolf.

Here’s the deal - didn’t someone say the Iraq’s weapons were shipped to Syria before we invaded? If true, Syria has nukes now!

Going after Iran for possibly building nukes is a fools game - at the end of the day (when it happens) it will cost each of us thousands of dollars (fuel costs) and very possibly result in the destruction of Israel, Iran and several other countries. In fact, the end of the world may be at hand.


39 posted on 09/16/2012 11:23:55 AM PDT by unique1
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To: gandalftb

If you are correct then they are the ones on which to concentrate. Deciding where to concentrate the killing is beyond my capacity.

I doubt it is beyond the capacity of the Mossad/IDF however.

My point was that there need not be total reliance on the air force. Combined covert ground action can play a significant role in the assault.

After the attack, there must be chaos lasting for a long time.


40 posted on 09/16/2012 11:37:39 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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