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Susan Rice outright lies on MTP and I can prove it!
9/16/2012 | barryobi

Posted on 09/16/2012 8:01:17 AM PDT by barryobi

Edited on 09/16/2012 8:31:46 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Susan Rice, our disgraceful United Nations Ambassador just went on Meet The Press and told two very big lies, and issued one statement that when examined does not mean what most people think.

The first and most egregious lie she told was that that what happened in Benghazi started as a protest to the video and escalated to an attack on the consulate.

The second lie she told was that there was 'a significant' and robust security force protecting the consulate. She said two US citizen guarding the consulate were killed.

The third thing she said that is a total deception is that we had no intelligence that an attack on the consulate was planned.

On the first lie, that the attack started as a protest, and that radical elements took advantage of the protest to launch an attack is TOTALLY false.

Sean Smith, was in the same building as the Ambassador when the attack started. He was online playing EVE and chatting with another game player. He never said anything about a protest outside the consulate. HERE ARE HIS WORDS FROM THAT NIGHT. "[vile_rat 9/11/12 12:54 PM]: assuming we don't die tonight. We saw one of our 'police' that guard the compound taking pictures." Smith was also known for his "interesting" and "morbid" sense of humor, something that is not unusual for those that have been deployed in war zones. No one knew at the time how prophetic his comment would be. Nearly two hours later, Smith typed: [vile_rat 9/11/12 2:40 PM]: F**K [vile_rat 9/11/12 2:40 PM]: gunfire He was disconnected from Jabber and never returned.

Read more: http://digitaljournal.com/article/332776#ixzz26duPX4MU Note he is worried about security two hours before the attack, but never mentions any protest, only gunfire.

Not only did Smith not mention a protest, but one of the 'guards' was interviewed in a hospital after the attack. Here is what he says about that night (note the hour of attack is off by one hour, I am not sure why, but could have to do with time stamp of Smith's computer) The guard, interviewed Thursday in the hospital where he is being treated for five shrapnel wounds in one leg and two bullet wounds in the other, said that the consulate area was quiet – “there wasn’t a single ant outside,” he said – until about 9:35 p.m., when as many as 125 armed men descended on the compound from all directions.

The men lobbed grenades into the compound, wounding the guard and knocking him to the ground, then stormed through the facility’s main gate, shouting “God is great” and moving to one of the many villas that make up the consulate compound. He said there had been no warning that an attack was imminent.

“Wouldn’t you expect if there were protesters outside that the Americans would leave?” the guard said.

Read more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2012/09/13/168415/no-protest-before-benghazi-attack.html#storylink=cpy

That is TWO sources who show there was never a protest besfor the attack, how about a third? It so happens a Doctor from Boston was in Benghazi and ON THE PHONE with the Ambassador's attache when the attack began. Here is what he says about that night.

Just hours before Burke was scheduled to meet with John Christopher Stevens, the US ambassador to Libya, the US consulate was attacked. Stevens and three other Americans were killed, including Glen Doherty, a Winchester native and former Navy SEAL working for a private security company.

Burke’s colleagues had spoken with Stevens just 45 minutes before the attack, and Burke was on the phone with an embassy attaché when the shelling began.

“He yelled, ‘Oh my God, Oh [expletive],’ and then he hung up,” said Burke, who was in a hotel about a mile from the consulate when the attack began. “Then we heard these deep blasts. We didn’t know what was going on. Nobody knew if the whole city was being attacked.”

http://articles.boston.com/2012-09-14/metro/33818187_1_thomas-burke-libya-emergency-department

On the second lie, that there was a significant and robust security force guarding the consulate that night, this is what the guard says about how many 'local' security were on duty....The attack itself, the guard said, was immediate and bold, initiated by a group of men who approached the compound and lobbed grenades over the wall. Just behind them were scores of men, shooting wildly and yelling “God is great.”

The guard, who said he’d been hired seven months ago by a British company to protect the compound, said the first explosion knocked him to the ground, and he was unable to fire his weapon. Four other contracted guards and three members of Libya’s 17th of February Brigade, a group formed during the first days of the anti-Gadhafi uprising and now considered part of Libya’s military, were protecting the outside perimeter of the compound.

EIGHT local guards for the perimeter of the consulate, does that sound significant to you???

Well maybe, we had a ton of private US contractors (you know, Blackwater types) INSIDE the compound to protect the Ambassador? the fact is we don't know how many US security were inside the compound, but we do know there were only 38 Americans there that night, including the Ambassador, his attache, Sean Smith. That would leave a maximum of 35 other Americans who could have been security personnel. It is highly doubtful that even half of those were security.

In fact, when the attack started, the employees at the consulate called the embassy in Tripoli for help. That should tell you all you need to know about how 'significant' the protection force at the consulate was. More telling is how the embassy in Tripoli responded to the request for help.

An eight-strong American rescue team was sent from Tripoli and taken by troops under Captain Fathi al- Obeidi, of the February 17 Brigade, to the secret safe house to extract around 40 US staff.

HOW THE HELL 'significant' could our security assets in Libya be if all we could muster to save our consulate staff was EIGHT PEOPLE!!

Maybe the reason we did not have enough security was because of this........The US consulate in Benghazi, where the US ambassador to Libya died in an attack on Tuesday, was not given the standard security contract offered to many American diplomatic missions in the Middle East, private military contractors have told the BBC.

The consulate's walls were breached in just 15 minutes, guards were outgunned and overwhelmed and four US personnel were killed, including the Ambassador, J Christopher Stevens.

US embassies and consulates in areas of the world where they are deemed liable to attack are usually offered a formal security contract called a Worldwide Protective Services Agreement, known in the industry as a 'Wips'.

The contract, or so-called tasking order, is between the US state department and any one of several major private military contractors such as DynCorp International and Aegis Defence Services.

Continue reading the main story “ Start Quote

This was a well-crafted military operation: the attackers would have carried out at least two weeks of surveillance" ”

Noman Benotman Former Libyan jihadist Under this agreement, extensive security precautions are put in place, including low-profile armoured vehicles, run-flat tyres, sufficient weapons, ammunition and trained personnel, as well as a tried and tested command and control system.

But sources have told the BBC that on the advice of a US diplomatic regional security officer, the mission in Benghazi was not given the full contract despite lobbying by private contractors.

Instead, the US consulate was guarded externally by a force of local Libyan militia, many of whom reportedly put down their weapons and fled once the mission came under concerted attack.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-19605322

The final straw was when Ambassador Rice kept repeating the attack was a result of the video and that we had no prior warning. I am sick of the weasel words 'actionable intelligence identifying a threat to the consulate in Benghazi'. What Rice is saying is we did not get a call from somebody saying the consulate in Benghazi will be attacked at 9:30 on 9/11. She is not saying we were not warned by the Libyans like this ................According to a report published at CNN on Saturday, U.S. diplomats were warned about deteriorating security three days before the consulate in Benghazi was attacked.

"Jamal Mabrouk, a member of the February 17th Brigade, told CNN that he and a battalion commander had a meeting about the economy and security," CNN said.

"The situation is frightening, it scares us," Mabrouk recalled telling U.S. officials. Arwa Damon added that he did not say how the officials responded, and worse yet, it was not the first time Mabrouk had warned diplomats about security and the impact on international business.

But the warnings were apparently dismissed.

Even if the Libyans had not given the US a warning THREE days before the attack, the fact that the consulate had ALREADY BEEN BOMBED ON JUNE 6, 2012, should have given us a clue!!

You can watch the YouTune video that AL QAEDA put out that shows the bombing here ...... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhhyGB-ttMU

The level of criminal incompetence and lies coming from the administration about Benghazi is appalling. From Rice, to Hillary, to Clinton, they all should be tossed from office and jailed for their callous indifference to the security of our consulate employees.

So there you have it, sourced, double sourced, and confirmed. I can't expect lapdog David Gregory to have a clue or the balls or the integrity to call Susan Rice on her lies, but I sure as hell do expect those who serve in Congress to be holding press conferences THIS week and exposing the criminal negligence of the Administration.


TOPICS: Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 9112012embassyattack; benghazi; captainobvious; obama; obamalies; statedeptcoverup; susanrice; susanricelies; vanity

1 posted on 09/16/2012 8:01:25 AM PDT by barryobi
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To: barryobi

Rumors swirl that the Ambassador was a homosexual, was there any placards or negative comments in Arabic that might have got the Holy Geezers madder than hornets that the President would send someone as ambassador with total disregard for their national sexual orientation?


2 posted on 09/16/2012 8:04:12 AM PDT by rovenstinez
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To: barryobi

It sounds to me like Susie is making excuses for her muzzie friends. So what if Americans are dead. Your muzzie pals are just upset over a video clip on Youtube and that justifies their bad behavior, right Susie?


3 posted on 09/16/2012 8:05:36 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The United States of America apologizing to knuckledragging, cavedwelling Neandethals. Whodda thunk!)
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To: barryobi

agitate whether its a real or ‘perceived’ complaint.
Obama uses this tactic all the time.
From Saul Alinsky tactics.

Obama realized after Bill Ayers and
weather undergrounds bombings, violence
wasn’t the way...

agitating about a movie(perceived complaint) is the way the
Muslims are using the Saul Alinsky tactic.

Both tactics are being used against
America now.

Obama, non violently, the other Muslim
groups violently.

Obama and the Islamists

same goal

different tactics


4 posted on 09/16/2012 8:07:15 AM PDT by Freddd (No PA Engineers)
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To: barryobi
Susan Rice lied? Nobody cares.

The MSM is more interested in things like whether or not Romney ever littered when he was a teenager.

5 posted on 09/16/2012 8:09:33 AM PDT by Leaning Right
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To: barryobi

6 posted on 09/16/2012 8:11:44 AM PDT by EscapedDutch ("Socialism is great until you run out of other people's money" - Lady Margaret Thatcher)
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To: barryobi

but I sure as hell do expect those who serve in Congress to be holding press conferences THIS week and exposing the criminal negligence of the Administration.

Sorry, no can do, they are on vacation.


7 posted on 09/16/2012 8:11:59 AM PDT by sheana
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To: barryobi
Suzie is stuck on stupid....aka....I am an Obama minion.

She basically called the Libyan minister a liar.

She's saying FBI is investigating. Not CIA??

She just kissed Obama's ....... royally....including "Obama killed Osama".

8 posted on 09/16/2012 8:12:24 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: barryobi

Good write up, but seriously . . . She’s a liberal and she lies. It’s like being surprised to find the Devil is evil.


9 posted on 09/16/2012 8:14:30 AM PDT by aimhigh
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To: barryobi

I agree 100% with you, the sad thing is though, a majority of the public are idiots, living off of caloricly empty sound bites. Here’s the breakdown as I see it:

The governmnet lies are short and simple and have no background material.

The truth needed to deconstruct the lies requires some work and usually isn’t short.

The ignorant public will more easily consume the lies (backed up by a compliant media) then take the time to read or understand how and why the lies are lies.


10 posted on 09/16/2012 8:15:40 AM PDT by ScubieNuc (When there is no justice in the laws, justice is left to the outlaws.)
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To: Sacajaweau

Suzie Q must have read the same media report I did which said the FBI was investigating. I guess it WAS U.S. soil! We should have blown it up after all friendlies evacuated.


11 posted on 09/16/2012 8:16:42 AM PDT by huldah1776
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To: barryobi

I didn’t read the entire post, but she also said the FBI “is” conducting an investigation. Just prior, I had heard the FBI has “not” gained entry into the country. Not sure which is correct.


12 posted on 09/16/2012 8:16:53 AM PDT by WorksinKOP
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To: barryobi

Of course she lied. Cabinet level officials are part of the Lying for Obama crowd. She was clearly the designated liar for this particular storyline and was sent to MTP to pronounce the administration’s party line.

After days of waffling back and forth on this, the administration has clearly decided that this fictional account is what’s needed to save Obama’s bacon in the election campaign. There will be more, including accusations that Republicans, Romney, and Right Wing groups were really behind all the video and resulting attacks. Not Obama’s fault. The press will quickly get on board.


13 posted on 09/16/2012 8:18:33 AM PDT by centurion316
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To: barryobi
From Breitbart link:

Colonel: Hillary Made Decision Not to Post Marines at Benghazi

According to Hunt, the debacle at the American mission in Benghazi is directly the result of Obama's new policies. "The policy of the Obama administration led to this," he said.

"It was the policy of the Obama administration to have a low profile in Libya. That's why the rules of engagement were approved by the Secretary of State to have no Marines at Benghazi, and to have an American contractor hire Libyan nationals to provide security there. The rules were they couldn't have ammunition."

On Friday, Breitbart News filed a Freedom of Information Act request with the State Department to secure a copy of the State Department Rules of Engagement for Libya.

Look for the State Department to continue to stonewall this request, and resist release of the document until after the election. Its contents will be just too damaging. In effect, the country will be able to see Hillary Clinton's signature on the document that served as Ambassador Chris Stevens's death warrant.

14 posted on 09/16/2012 8:18:51 AM PDT by MissMagnolia (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. (M.Thatcher))
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To: rovenstinez
Rumors swirl that the Ambassador was a homosexual,(sic)

They're rumors only to the obtuse.

15 posted on 09/16/2012 8:23:11 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: barryobi

Good post, thank you.
Number Of Times Obama Has Tweeted About Jay-Z And Beyonce: 47 – Number Of Times He Tweeted About Murder Of Four Americans In Libya: 1


16 posted on 09/16/2012 8:34:35 AM PDT by sunny48
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To: barryobi

So what, everyone connected to this administration lies and most of the media is proud to ignore the lies and present them as truth.


17 posted on 09/16/2012 8:34:57 AM PDT by duffee (Romney 2012, NEWT 2016)
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To: barryobi

Even HuffPo says it was a 2 part planned assault.

Duuuhhh!


18 posted on 09/16/2012 8:38:08 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: rovenstinez

They didn’t go after the Ambassador because he was homosexual. This was a coordinated attack all across the Muslim world.


19 posted on 09/16/2012 8:43:51 AM PDT by FR_addict
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To: barryobi

Well done...thank you.

If they can make this about just one movie, it’s more comforting to voters and covers their butt(s). Who cares, they have a scapegoat and the problem is containable. The only problem is that America pays the price with a loss of liberty and Obama is insulated against any criticizm. They win, the People lose.


20 posted on 09/16/2012 8:50:41 AM PDT by bronxville (Margaret Sanger - “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population,)
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To: barryobi

Nicely done. Hope this gets a lot of views.


21 posted on 09/16/2012 8:55:04 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: Sacajaweau

I just heard via FOX this morning that the FBI have been called back for security reasons... this would be laughable if it weren’t so sick...


22 posted on 09/16/2012 8:57:41 AM PDT by dps.inspect (rage against the Obama machine...)
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To: MissMagnolia

This is sick, just sick... it truly makes my heart ache.


23 posted on 09/16/2012 9:01:02 AM PDT by dps.inspect (rage against the Obama machine...)
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To: barryobi
Susan Rice,

Another Affirmative Action Useful Idiot !

24 posted on 09/16/2012 9:08:32 AM PDT by Uriel-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: barryobi

Two areas I have not seen discussed or given much reporting:

1. The timeline. Stevens was killed of smoke inhalation, per some reports. Photos of ME men carrying him were released to the press/Internet. Per The Administration, those men were carrying him to the hospital.

How and where did the US retrieve the bodies — since Obama had a photo op with the coffins?

When did the rebels get hold of the body to mutilate/rape it with ‘objects’? Some reports indicated that the raping occurred both while Stevens was still alive and after he was dead.

2. Per some articles, the embassy building did not have ‘residence’ facilities. Implication: ambassador and staff ‘resided’ elsewhere.

It is understandable that the tech guy may have been there, because he was on the computer.

Why would the ambassador have been there that late, unless something was going on that required his attention?

==

These may have been answered and I missed them, but there have been so many different threads and stories and Administration positions.


25 posted on 09/16/2012 9:22:02 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: EscapedDutch

Bttt


26 posted on 09/16/2012 9:26:40 AM PDT by novemberslady
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To: barryobi

This beyotch wasn’t there. She’s only repeating what the administration has told her to say. Anything to save their sorry asses. Bottom line...I didn’t know that Libyans walked around with RPG launchers just in case they decided to hold a demonstration some where. All of these attacks were planned ahead of time. Wasn’t the attack on the consulate at night? When was the last time demonstrators decided to protest a film in the dark? The nighttime was chosen specifically to catch the victims offguard, and to protect the identities of the perps.


27 posted on 09/16/2012 9:27:08 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: barryobi
Just another incident where a group of fun loving Muslims just happened to have their mortars, RPGs and heavy machine guns along with their standard AKs with them on an outing near the US Consulate and also the “safe house”. What started as just a picnic by followers of “the religion of peace” turned ugly when they heard about an offensively captioned Youtube video.

It was all very spontaneous and innocent. This type of thing could happen anywhere and surely there was no negligence or lack of proper preparation by Hillary's underlings in the State Department. Just because a few local fraidy cats gave them warnings ahead of time is meaningless. Ambassador Rice's statements sound perfectly reasonable. And don't worry Obama and Hillary have already given Mitt Romney and those peace loving Muslim's who participated in the riots that got out of hand some stern words... so justice has already been done. They are free to continue campaigning now.

28 posted on 09/16/2012 9:30:08 AM PDT by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: barryobi
Did you notice that when Rep King (R) spoke on Meet the Press this morning, that the little liberal suck-up who moderates the show told the audience that King (R) supported Romney.

Gregory didn't ‘warn’ viewers when liberals were speaking that they supported Obama. The guy's bias is so obvious it's embarrassing - even by NBC standards. Maybe they should move him to the back room to doctor tapes... Or tell his DNC PR Firm handlers to write more extensive copy for him to read...

29 posted on 09/16/2012 9:41:50 AM PDT by GOPJ (first they came for those clinging to their guns and religion, and I did not speak out....)
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To: barryobi

Of course she lied. The whole Obama Administration is lying.


30 posted on 09/16/2012 9:44:56 AM PDT by popdonnelly (The first priority is get Obama out of the White House.)
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To: GOPJ
Gregory didn't ‘warn’ viewers when liberals were speaking that they supported Obama. The guy's bias is so obvious it's embarrassing - even by NBC standards

Again, why would anyone with ties to FR want to waist even 1 minute of their life listening to NBC & their news.

31 posted on 09/16/2012 10:08:44 AM PDT by Digger (If RINO is your selection then failure is your election)
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To: barryobi

bump—embassy attack info


32 posted on 09/16/2012 10:12:24 AM PDT by Taffini ( Mr. Pippen and Mr. Waffles do not approve and neither do I)
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To: popdonnelly
"Of course she lied. The whole Obama Administration is lying."

And the manner, implausibility, and frequency of their lies shows the total contempt that they have for the American public, and their total confidence that the MSM will not expose them for what they are.

There are procedures for cleansing the government and bureaucracy, but how do we cleanse the media, it is beginning to seem to be more important?

33 posted on 09/16/2012 10:27:02 AM PDT by I am Richard Brandon
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To: MissMagnolia

Does Petraeus’s CIA have anything to do with this...Mueller’s FBI doing anything? Col. Hunt says....”The rules of engagement were ridiculous.” He also along with others lays the entire “misunderstanding” at Mrs. Clinton’s feet and those of her boss, Barry Hussein Obama...not wanting to ruffle the feathers of Islam...Barry Hussein Obama marches to that drum...and we worried about JFK’s Catholicism or Carter’s religion and Bush’s bornagain....Obama, Barry Hussein is a Muslim.


34 posted on 09/16/2012 11:43:44 AM PDT by yoe
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To: barryobi

BTTT


35 posted on 09/16/2012 12:06:52 PM PDT by moehoward
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