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Zogby: Romney running worse than McCain in '08
Newsmax ^ | 9/13/2012 | John Zogby

Posted on 09/16/2012 12:02:47 PM PDT by Siegfried X

Zogby: Romney Running Worse Than McCain in ‘08 Thursday, 13 Sep 2012 06:05 PM

President Barack Obama received a surprisingly strong bounce after the Democratic National Convention, and now leads GOP challenger Mitt Romney by nearly 6 points according to a new JZ Analytics poll.

The national poll of likely voters shows Obama leading 47.7 percent to 42 percent, and indicates that Romney is not polling well enough among some conservative demographic groups: NASCAR fans, evangelicals, and the so-called “Walmart voters.”

According to JZ Analytics pollster John Zogby, Romney is in a somewhat worse position than GOP nominee Sen. John McCain was at this point in the 2008 campaign...

In a possible indication that Romney has yet to seal the deal with the GOP base, Zogby reports lackluster poll numbers among NASCAR voters, evangelicals, and frequent Walmart patrons -- groups that tend to be reliably conservative.

Romney leads Obama 48.4 to 44.6 percent among voters who shop weekly at Walmart. He [Romney] narrowly trails Obama among self-identified NASCAR fans, 44 percent to 43 percent.

“That’s a number you would never expect to see,” comments Zogby.

Among “born again” voters, Romney leads Obama by 57 percent to 32 percent. That compares to the 73 percent of evangelical/”born again” voters McCain carried in 2008, according to the Pew Center on Religion and Public Life...

Zogby also describes Obama’s numbers as “anemic” among 18 to 29 year-olds. Only 53 percent of those younger voters said they would vote for Obama over Romney -- some 13 points less than Obama’s advantage among that demographic in 2008 against GOP standard bearer Sen. John McCain...

(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...


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KEYWORDS: 2012electionbias; 2012polls; goebbelswouldbeproud; stalinisttactics; yellowjournalism; zogby; zogbyism; zogbypoll; zogbysspecialsauce
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To: jwalsh07

Maybe Obama has bowed to him too.......... ... .


41 posted on 09/16/2012 12:36:38 PM PDT by potlatch (~~And the truth IS what counts, RIGHT ? ~~)
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To: barmag25

NASCAR headquarters is in Charlotte; maybe the fans think they are “required” to vote for Obama, who was nominated in Charlotte. Most likely though, Romney is just not seen as a viable alternative, but I will shade in the Republican oval at the top of the ballot and not fret over weak and strong choices on the ballot. Still as of today, I would think Romney will win only the McPain electoral votes plus IN and NC.


42 posted on 09/16/2012 12:39:12 PM PDT by Theodore R. ( Who among us has not erred? Akin's the One!)
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To: Siegfried X

“Zogby has always been a fair pollster,”

Seriously? He’s out to make a buck just like everyone else. The only way pollsters count is with their own votes. Pay no attention.


43 posted on 09/16/2012 12:43:43 PM PDT by adc
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To: KeyLargo

“Sadly, no matter what, many Evangelicals will not vote for a Mormon.’

So are you saying that evangelicals aren’t smart enough to see what is going on? I don’t believe that for a second. In fact, each and every evangelical I know is voting for Romney - all of them - and I know plenty.


44 posted on 09/16/2012 12:46:30 PM PDT by Hero
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To: Siegfried X
zogby has NEVER been a fair or impartial pollster.Check out who his own brother is.

LLS

45 posted on 09/16/2012 12:46:36 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("if it looks like you are not gonna make it you gotta get mean, I mean plumb mad-dog mean" J. Wales)
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To: Siegfried X

The fact that Zogby believes that the Kenyan is now leading Romney among “NASCAR voters” is all I need to call BULL**** on his goofy “poll”.


46 posted on 09/16/2012 12:46:48 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The United States of America apologizing to knuckledragging, cavedwelling Neandethals. Whodda thunk!)
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To: Siegfried X

The one and only time I recall that Zogby was ever right, was in the 1994 NY State Gubernatorial election. Zogby was the only one whose poll predicted a Pataki win over Cuomo. Pataki won. Since then, Zogby has been way off the mark in his polls.


47 posted on 09/16/2012 12:48:18 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: Siegfried X
and is even behind Obama with NASCAR fans!

I'm not buying that!

NASCAR fans can't stand Obama. Remember last fall when Barry's wife was booed at a stock car race.

48 posted on 09/16/2012 12:49:56 PM PDT by painter (Obamahood,"Steal from the working people and give to the worthless.")
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To: Siegfried X
He [Romney] narrowly trails Obama among self-identified NASCAR fans, 44 percent to 43 percent.

Maybe true because a lot of people like me walked away from NASCAR when it became a tool for Obamugabe.

49 posted on 09/16/2012 12:51:22 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Siegfried X
I talked to two neighbors this morning who are fed up with Obama.. and admitted they voted for him in 2008, but WILL NOT be voting for him this time.

What was perplexing is that they were NOT SURE they wanted to vote for Romney. They said they might vote a 3rd party candidate or write-in someone

When I asked WHY/... their answer was that they weren't sure about Romney nor did they really know what he was all about.

They also stated that he was probably a good person but couldn't convince themselves that they could vote for him.

I'd call that the McCain syndrome revisited.

Keep in mind, as someone of FR said weeks ago... "we're running the candidate ( Romney ) that lost to the candidate ( McCain ) that lost the last election."

I feel that RYAN would actually be a better nominee for President than Romney. He is much more aggressive, which is what's really required under the circumstances.

Food for thought.

50 posted on 09/16/2012 12:52:54 PM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: funfan

Good question.

btw. On cable last night I saw this film ‘For Greater Glory’, the recently released film starring Andy Garcia.

I kept thinking of the parallels to the Obama regime and his war on Christians.

Movie on Cristeros War Exposes Mexican Govt.’s Anti-Christian Campaign
The New American ^ | 6/8/2012 | William F. Jasper

Posted on Sunday, June 10, 2012 2:39:05 PM by IbJensen
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June 01, 2012
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51 posted on 09/16/2012 12:54:40 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: Siegfried X

Philosophical purity will destroy America with another four years of Obama.

I really don’t BUY Zogby - he’s an Arab and probably pro-Obama.

Rasmussen has them essentially running neck and neck.


52 posted on 09/16/2012 12:55:03 PM PDT by ZULU (See: http://www.yoututbe.com/watch_popup?v=tCAffMSWSzY#t=28)
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To: Siegfried X

These polls are doo doo. Yesterday’s Philadelphia Inquirer posted their new poll that said more than 30% of Republicans in the 5 county Philly region are voting Obama. Come on! If the poll said more than 30% of Republicans hadn’t decided between Romney and a third party candidate, I might believe it. But a third of Republicans voting for Obama? Ridiculous!


53 posted on 09/16/2012 12:55:25 PM PDT by old and tired
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To: VideoDoctor

“Food for thought.”

More food for thought....this kind of talk isn’t helping us. Go back to those neighbors and give them the “did you know that Romney”....then fill in the blank.

And get yourself a copy of Glen Beck’s program on Romney. I was stunned.


54 posted on 09/16/2012 1:07:03 PM PDT by Hero
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To: Siegfried X

Zogby, week before 2004 election — Kerry with 315.


55 posted on 09/16/2012 1:08:31 PM PDT by libh8er
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To: VideoDoctor

“What was perplexing is that they were NOT SURE they wanted to vote for Romney. They said they might vote a 3rd party candidate or write-in someone”

I believe that this will be a big factor in the election.

Romney has not sold himself to those people and he has got to do so very soon.


56 posted on 09/16/2012 1:13:26 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: ClearCase_guy

“My feeling on Romney is that he has been playing it too safe, and running badly (with minimal boost from Ryan) and now we have a big foreign affairs crisis.
I see things going Obama’s way. Again.”

But…. but….
“The dog catcher could beat Obama!”
“The DOG could beat Obama!”
“A ham sandwich could beat Obama!”

…. so went the rhetoric right here on FR only a year ago, or not even that much.

What happened?

And what does this portend for the future?


57 posted on 09/16/2012 1:18:47 PM PDT by Road Glide
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To: Siegfried X

This may or may not be true. But the huge unsaid by Zogby is that 0bama is also running worse than McCain in 2008.


58 posted on 09/16/2012 1:25:50 PM PDT by Truth is a Weapon (Truth, it hurts so good.)
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To: Siegfried X

That is pure unadulterated bull shit. Zogby is in public opinion shaping mode. About 2 weeks before the election he’ll shift to public opinion reporting mode. Zogby is a pro islamist liberal democrat, and that’s all I need to know about him. And I know he is supposed to be an Arab Christian...he’s still pro islamist.


59 posted on 09/16/2012 1:39:30 PM PDT by pgkdan (A vote for anyone but Romney is a vote for obama. GO MITT!!)
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To: a fool in paradise

I was wondering when Zogby would break out the special sauce.


60 posted on 09/16/2012 1:48:02 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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