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PPP Virginia: 0bama 51% / Romney 46% (D: 35%/R: 32%/ I: 33%)
PPP ^ | 9-16-12 | PPP

Posted on 09/16/2012 10:06:31 PM PDT by GR_Jr.

PPP's newest Virginia poll finds Barack Obama leading by 5 points, 51- 46. Obama's lead is unchanged from a month ago when we found him leading 50-45 in the state. He may not be seeing a bump from the convention in the state at this point, but he was in a pretty good position to begin with. Virginia continues to look like it may be something of a firewall state for Obama. PPP has now polled it 9 times this cycle, and President Obama has led by at least 4 points on all 9 of the polls. He's been ahead by 5 points, 5 points, 8 points, and 8 points over the course of the four surveys we've conducted in 2012. “Barack Obama continues to look like the definite favorite in Virginia,” said Dean Debnam, President of Public Policy Polling. “And it’s hard to imagine a scenario where Obama would win Virginia but lose the election.” Obama has a slight advantage over Romney (49-47) in terms of who voters trust more on the economy and a wider (51-45) edge over Romney on foreign policy. Only 41% of voters say they approve of how Romney reacted to the situation in Libya this week while 48% express disapproval. Obama's leading 56-42 with women, 91-7 with African Americans, 63-30 with other nonwhite voters, and 56-37 with young voters. Romney has a 51-45 advantage with men, a 57-40 one with whites, and a 54-43 lead with seniors. Romney is slightly ahead with independents, 47-45, but Obama's party is more unified with Democrats supporting him 95-4 while Republicans go for Romney by a slightly weaker 92-7 margin. There has been a lot of talk about the possibility of Virgil Goode tipping the election

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 2012polls; 2012swingstates; election2012; ppp; va2012
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Not sure how part affiliation breaks down in VA, but this poll doesn't seem to oversample democRATS by too much. This could be trouble. 0bmam at 50% in VA. What happened to Virginia?
1 posted on 09/16/2012 10:06:36 PM PDT by GR_Jr.
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To: GR_Jr.; a fool in paradise; Slings and Arrows

I hate the Poles!


2 posted on 09/16/2012 10:09:10 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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To: GR_Jr.

PPPsyOps


3 posted on 09/16/2012 10:09:53 PM PDT by Cruising For Freedom (Don't be the proof that MSM PsyOps works.)
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To: GR_Jr.

Public Policy Polling (P.P.P.) is a U.S. polling firm based in Raleigh, North Carolina.[1][2][3] P.P.P. was founded in 2001 by businessman and Democratic pollster Dean Debnam


4 posted on 09/16/2012 10:10:19 PM PDT by barmag25
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To: GR_Jr.

My deceased father-in-law who was a retired Navy man said that the state of Virginia is supported by the government. If you include the military and all the government employees, he is about right. Thrown in the mooches on welfare and who knows what else and you have over 50% of the state.


5 posted on 09/16/2012 10:10:41 PM PDT by lone star annie
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To: GR_Jr.

Virginia could be very problematic if Obozo pulls off a win. If Obama gets Virginia, he only has to win New Hampshire, Nevada, Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania to steal the election. He won’t even need Ohio. We need a MAJOR ad buy in Virginia. It cannot be allowed to go Obama. Carpet bomb the opposition.


6 posted on 09/16/2012 10:10:51 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: GR_Jr.
The main question I have reading the release is the independent situation - the key. Their result for that:

Romney is slightly ahead with independents, 47-45

7 posted on 09/16/2012 10:11:29 PM PDT by C210N ("ask not what the candidate can do for you, ask what you can do for the candidate" (Breitbart, 2012))
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To: GR_Jr.

Hate to say it , but I think Obama is going to win . Romney is a milquetoast candidate , and possibly a fall guy a la McCain . The average American voter is a numbskull .


8 posted on 09/16/2012 10:11:49 PM PDT by sushiman
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To: GR_Jr.

It’s too far north.


9 posted on 09/16/2012 10:12:44 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (I'll believe it when I don't see it.)
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To: lone star annie

So you consider the military, military retirees and veterans to be leeching off the government?


10 posted on 09/16/2012 10:13:45 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: GR_Jr.

Of course these polls are completely accurate. Polls are only done at this point in time to carry an agenda. Garbage in Garbage out.

Pray for America


11 posted on 09/16/2012 10:14:17 PM PDT by bray (If you vote for a communist what does that make you?)
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To: GR_Jr.

I’m not denying that Romney needs to fight for VA, but anyone who thinks PPP is credible hasn’t been following their conveniently timed sheningans this election season.

PPP is a classical textbook exercise of push polling. PPP asked in Ohio a few weeks ago if Obama or Romney had a bigger role in killing Bin laden.

PPP = a Pooping Platform and a Poor one at that.


12 posted on 09/16/2012 10:15:02 PM PDT by Cruising For Freedom (Don't be the proof that MSM PsyOps works.)
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To: sushiman

Too bad the R’s decided to run another wealthy insider liberal.


13 posted on 09/16/2012 10:16:20 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: GR_Jr.

Frankly, I have no ideal who’s going to win this thing and neither does anyone else .....sometimes I think it’s going to be Romney because of all of the negative headwinds against Obama, especially the economy and then at other times I can see Obama pulling off a close election because of Romney “too cautious” campaign and yes, despite what some Romney cheerleaders say here at FR or TV pundit land - I don’t believe that he has some super duper secret “aggressive” plan against Obama coming - more ads than before doesn’t mean aggressiveness.


14 posted on 09/16/2012 10:22:25 PM PDT by Bigtigermike
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To: sushiman

According to Pat Caddell, Romney is running the worst of any campaign in history, worse than McCain.


15 posted on 09/16/2012 10:24:15 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No only that the entire state of VA is supported by the government. Government employees are starting to out number the patriotic ones that serve in the military.


16 posted on 09/16/2012 10:27:51 PM PDT by lone star annie
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To: sushiman

I’ve never understood Romneys pedestrian campaign. Yes, he’s been more aggressive than McCain but that’s not saying a lot. His campaign makes strides and then disappear for a couple of days and then come out swinging again and backs off again. There’s no real momentum building but in spots


17 posted on 09/16/2012 10:29:15 PM PDT by Bigtigermike
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To: Viennacon

If Obama wins this election then this is not the country I want to continue to live in. What a miserable place this will be 25 years from now.

We will be outnumbered and no chance of ever regaining a majority again.


18 posted on 09/16/2012 10:29:58 PM PDT by lone star annie
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To: lone star annie

We could make up for Virginia if we won Wisconsin, but we would have to secure Florida (seems likely if voter registration is anything to go by), and Ohio (total tossup). I have a good feeling about Wisconsin because of Ryan. Our chances are still good.


19 posted on 09/16/2012 10:33:33 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: sushiman

Do you have any Midol?


20 posted on 09/16/2012 10:38:17 PM PDT by ReaganÜberAlles
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To: lone star annie

I am going to conclude that you are not including military in mooches, it’s just a mistype or read.


21 posted on 09/16/2012 10:40:41 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: sushiman

What’s worse is that if Obama wins, he is likely to have a stronger Dem Senate and some pickups in the House to work with.

Even Baldwin could win WI in such a scenario, and that scares me.


22 posted on 09/16/2012 10:43:48 PM PDT by Thunder90 (Kick Obama out of the White House in 2012.)
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To: Steelfish

“According to Pat Caddell, Romney is running the worst of any campaign in history, worse than McCain.”

Remember, although more moderate, Pat Caddell is still a Dem. In fact he was a Carter team Dem, ugh.


23 posted on 09/16/2012 10:50:02 PM PDT by flaglady47 (When the gov't fears the people, liberty; When the people fear the gov't, tyranny.)
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To: GR_Jr.

Rasmussen did a survey of 15000 likely voters at the end of August and it broke down like this 37.7 consider themselves Rep 33.3 Dem and 29.5 other!!!


24 posted on 09/16/2012 11:20:31 PM PDT by tallyhoe
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To: sushiman

obama has not one iota of hope for another 4. Don’t doubt it for a second, media spin aside.


25 posted on 09/16/2012 11:41:05 PM PDT by parisa
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To: Revolting cat!

Does anyone else have a problem with this poll when the pollster’s numbers don’t add up?

Look at the question regarding being liberal or conservative.
11% very liberal, 17% somewhat liberal, 32% moderate, 25% somewhat conservative, 16% very conservative.

11+17+32+25+16=101 percent. Would a serious pollster make a mistake like this?


26 posted on 09/17/2012 12:06:53 AM PDT by dupree
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To: dupree

Possibly there was some rounding up done with the numbers, in order to make them whole and not have fractional parts, which then led to more than 100 when totaled.

The difference is quite negligible and doesn’t concern me.

If I were to critique PPP polling, I would look at other aspects to criticize.


27 posted on 09/17/2012 12:36:03 AM PDT by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR." - Glenn Beck)
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To: parisa

How much would you bet on it ?


28 posted on 09/17/2012 12:37:18 AM PDT by sushiman
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To: Steelfish
said, "worse than McCain"

Worse then when McCain quit the campaign and went back to Washington in order to look like a jackass?
That is hard to believe

29 posted on 09/17/2012 12:39:47 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: dupree

Virginia’s beltway employees would never admit to being Republican. However, many are quite aware of the writing on the wall.


30 posted on 09/17/2012 12:43:58 AM PDT by des
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To: sushiman

It’s Bob Dole all over again.


31 posted on 09/17/2012 1:07:56 AM PDT by My Favorite Headache (In a world where I feel so small, I can't stop thinking big.)
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To: Revolting cat!

PPP Partisan Pravda Polling?


32 posted on 09/17/2012 1:12:48 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Obama likes to claim credit for getting Osama. Why hasn't he tried Khalid Sheikh Mohammed yet?)
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To: My Favorite Headache

I’m afraid you are right . As much as I despise Obama and his regime , I can’t raise even a modicum of excitement or interest in R/R .


33 posted on 09/17/2012 1:46:50 AM PDT by sushiman
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To: sushiman

Obama is going to get trounced.


34 posted on 09/17/2012 1:49:25 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: GR_Jr.
Romney has been polling at 2:1 among the Independents.

Clearly, this poll has that wrong.

35 posted on 09/17/2012 1:51:21 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: lone star annie

The Military will not support Obama.


36 posted on 09/17/2012 1:52:06 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: GR_Jr.

Eight point over count of Democrats. Rasmussen has self ID registed Republican at 37.6% highest ever. Democrats 33.3% less than one point above their loqwest ever. Carville and CNN have Indep. going 54/40 Romney.


37 posted on 09/17/2012 2:30:17 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: Bigtigermike
I agree, this is Romney[s to lose and he is managing. Romney needs to flesh out his plans, like what loop holes he will cut and some policy speechs on Economics and Foreign policy. He seems sorta like Obama lite on foreign policy right now. This race is far from over but Romney has got to fight. I go to his face book page and the liberals are talking about raping Ryan's kids and other slime. If Romney can't keep perverts off his face book pages it is a problem! America really doesn’t want Obama but R&R have to sell it!
38 posted on 09/17/2012 2:40:26 AM PDT by carcraft (Pray for our Country)
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To: svcw

misread


39 posted on 09/17/2012 2:47:56 AM PDT by Principled (Vote Romney to stop Obama. Vote for conservative Reps and Senators to stop Romney. [ZET 7/30/12])
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To: GR_Jr.

Party affiliation in the sample is 35% D, 32% R, 33% I. The sample is pretty close on the white/black and male/female ratios (according to the 2010 census).


40 posted on 09/17/2012 3:32:21 AM PDT by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their president is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: GR_Jr.

Didn’t PPP have Walker losing the recall election?


41 posted on 09/17/2012 3:34:58 AM PDT by djpg
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To: C210N

Which is a joke. Almost Rey other poll shows Indie numbers are WAY up for Romney-—10-15 %-—so once again PPP jimmies the numbers to get he desired result.


42 posted on 09/17/2012 3:43:05 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually (Hendrix))
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To: dupree
11+17+32+25+16=101 percent. Would a serious pollster make a mistake like this?

This is a simple rounding error that sometimes happens when each of the component numbers have been rounded off to whole numbers then added together.

An example-three results of 15.6%, 30.8%, and 53.6% add up to 100.0%, but if you round the three numbers to 16%, 31%, and 54%, then they add up to 101%.

It's common, and not evidence of fakery or incompetence.

43 posted on 09/17/2012 3:45:57 AM PDT by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their president is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: Fresh Wind

Except everyone else-—even the polls that have Romney losing-—give him a assize advantage among indies. As usual, PPP jimmying the results-—but they are getting a little more sneaky. Same untrustworthy crap, though.


44 posted on 09/17/2012 3:47:09 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually (Hendrix))
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To: GR_Jr.
What happened to Virginia?

Been to Arlington, Fairfax, or Loudoun Counties lately?

Where do you think all that borrowed and printed money os going?

Virginia is a dependent satrapy of Mordor on the Potomac, and will vote accordingly.

45 posted on 09/17/2012 3:55:28 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown are by desperate appliance relieved or not at all.)
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To: LS

Agree, maybe PPP has started to notice that poll watchers have started to notice their overt oversampling, so they’re doing it in more subtle ways.

Any time the poll people sit down and decide which samples are to be thrown out and which are to be kept, there is the potential for mischief.

Only 4% of DemocRats have jumped to the Romney side, and 7% of Republicans are supporting O-Bah-Mah?

Cut me a break.


46 posted on 09/17/2012 4:00:14 AM PDT by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their president is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: Jim Noble
Been to Arlington, Fairfax, or Loudoun Counties lately?

A a matter of fact I have, and most Obama voters switched their allegiance about three years ago. People in Virginia are informed and see what is happening. Well, most people that is. There are a few died in the wool libs, but they never switch anyway.

47 posted on 09/17/2012 4:07:35 AM PDT by Hero
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To: LS

The guy who posted this article is a troll


48 posted on 09/17/2012 4:09:31 AM PDT by aheckle
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To: djpg

>> Didn’t PPP have Walker losing the recall election?

PPP’s final poll results: http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/PPP_Release_WI_6312.pdf

HTML article: http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/06/walker-leads-by-3-points.html

PPP had walker leading by 3. He actually won by almost 7.

Every PPP poll except the second one had Walker ahead: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wisconsin_gubernatorial_recall_election

We report, you decide. :-)

Personally I think nearly all the polls are slightly under-predicting (R) and conservative performance. Whether it’s by design or just the way the poll chips fall, I do not know.


49 posted on 09/17/2012 4:11:00 AM PDT by Nervous Tick ("You can ignore reality, but you can't ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.")
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To: GR_Jr.

Ppp is the worst liberal hack polling co out there. Just watch their reps on twitter. They make these up and then are giddy freaks posting dribble breathlessly. They honestly believe their make believe stuff. Ras had Romney up. Others have shown it close. Within a point. I would suggest not bringing the LOL ppp polls here.

Snicker


50 posted on 09/17/2012 4:16:25 AM PDT by commonguymd (The enemy within is our MSM. War starts there imo. twitter @commonguymd)
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