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Will Obama win in November? Wide gap between preference and prediction.
Washington Post ^ | September 16, 2012 | Chris Cillizza

Posted on 09/17/2012 3:22:37 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper

National polling suggests that the American public is deeply divided about whom it wants to be the next president of the United States...

But if likely voters are almost evenly split on who should occupy 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. in January, they are far less indecisive on who they think will be the next president.

Nearly six in 10 (59 percent) registered voters in a Post-ABC poll in late August said they thought Obama would win while just 34 percent chose Romney, even as the head-to-head vote in that poll stood at 47 percent for Romney and 46 percent for Obama among registered voters.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012
People seem to think Obamugabe will win? For real?
1 posted on 09/17/2012 3:22:40 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

It’s not 1980 anymore.


2 posted on 09/17/2012 3:24:51 AM PDT by MachIV
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To: SoFloFreeper

“People seem to think Obamugabe will win?”

Obama’s media is telling them 24/7 that it is inevitable.


3 posted on 09/17/2012 3:26:51 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: kearnyirish2

Yep. There are several factors at play. One is the skewed media pushing inevitability. Second are people who are for Romney but think all is lost...that the takers have won. There are those that think Obama is some sort of master who can’t lose. Others who are watching and don’t see Romney doing what it will take to win. Lot’s of reasons a person might not feel confident in a GOP win.


4 posted on 09/17/2012 3:35:04 AM PDT by ilgipper
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To: ilgipper

I believe the day of the election many people are going to reflect on what we’ve been reduced to, and cast a ballot for Romney. Nobody could want four more years of this...


5 posted on 09/17/2012 3:43:28 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: SoFloFreeper

If Obama and Moochelle go to CHURCH close to the election, they KNOW they are in trouble.


6 posted on 09/17/2012 3:43:28 AM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

I hope Mitt wins. 12,000,000 new jobs sounds good.


7 posted on 09/17/2012 3:56:03 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: ilgipper

Good post. The oblunder defenses haven’t cracked a bit. Romney has no weapon of mass destruction. Soon the markets will start girding for an oblunder victory and it won’t be pretty.


8 posted on 09/17/2012 4:03:59 AM PDT by gotribe (WTF?)
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To: stuartcr

I hope you meant that sarcastically. His constant touting of new job numbers is just silly. In Ohio he told a group we’d have x number of jobs. These statements are laughable.

Look, people were told that by oblunder, and what happened? No jobs. We are jaded by such empty promises about the government being able to create jobs somehow.

I don’t know who’s running Mittens’ campaign, McClain perhaps? But he is running a campaign more suitable to 2008 than 2012.


9 posted on 09/17/2012 4:07:04 AM PDT by gotribe (WTF?)
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To: ilgipper

This reminds me of the OJ trial years ago. All the evidence and proof SHOWED it was OJ that murdered his wife and the other man. Yet, many blacks and, unfortunately, the jury stood obstinate in the face of all of it and gave him a pass.

That is what is happening with Obama. Only it’s not just 12 uneducated minorities, or a large percentage of blacks. It is virtually the entire MSM, DC and national pundits - including many traditional GOPers, Unions, virtually the entire black population, and illegals, Muslims and corrupt ‘capitalist’ insiders along with the approximate half of the people in this country that do not pay Federal Income Tax.

Our only hope is that his constituency, while predisposed to support him, is not enthusiastic and their baser nature - laziness - prevails and they just don’t get up off the couch and go vote. Add an energetic and determined turnout on our side and he can be beaten.


10 posted on 09/17/2012 4:15:52 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

To put it bluntly: Our candidate sucks. Romney hasn’t a clue any more than Obama does.

With Gingrich we may have had a chance,now what we have is Dumb and Dumber. We have to vote for Dumb to get rid of Dumber.

I will vote for Romney no matter how stupid his statements, no matter how much he sits back and does nothing.No matter how much he allows Obama to lie and stays quiet. No matter how much his campaign looks like McCains.


11 posted on 09/17/2012 4:29:11 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Venturer

He wasn’t the best choice, but he is what we have and we also have his running mate which is a plus. I believe he is better than McCain was, and I believe the other side knows this.

They also know their base is not as enthusiastic as it was 4 years ago. It is why virtually every part of the MSM are more active and overt in their attempts to push Obama up the ladder - in the face of all evidence that his policies of the last 4 years have WORKED! Confoundingly, though, their success is why we are in the position we are now economically.

I’ll vote for Romney - over broken glass on my belly if need be. I don’t have to like it, but I will go vote against Obama.


12 posted on 09/17/2012 4:36:18 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

It’s a lot of stupid white people too, including seniors who will lose everything.


13 posted on 09/17/2012 4:56:16 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: jersey117

I’m a senior, and I would never even think of voting for Obama. I care too much about what happens to my children and grand daughters if he is allowed to remain in power.


14 posted on 09/17/2012 5:00:29 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: SoFloFreeper

History is about to repeat itself.


15 posted on 09/17/2012 5:06:18 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Yes, for real.

Just as he who wins the battle writes the history, he who counts the votes wins the election. Spain is counting the votes instead of We the People of America.


16 posted on 09/17/2012 5:09:18 AM PDT by bgill
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To: SoFloFreeper

...”Nearly six in 10 (59 percent) registered voters in a Post-ABC poll in late August said they thought Obama would win while just 34 percent chose Romney, even as the head-to-head vote in that poll stood at 47 percent for Romney and 46 percent for Obama”...

I hear people who are going to vote against Obama saying this all the time..In many cases they follow with a statement that they think a great 2012 election fraud is already in place through a shadow organization Americans are not aware of which will negate a free and fair election. However, these folks will NOT stay home on election day. Americans are scared and depressed but they will stand against tyranny if such a thing becomes obvious.


17 posted on 09/17/2012 5:19:08 AM PDT by jazzlite (esat)
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To: kearnyirish2

“Nobody could want four more years of this...”
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I certainly hope so but then I still find it hard to believe most of what goes on these days. It is like living in Wonderland, I keep expecting a big white rabbit to run by and show me the way to the Mad Hatter’s Tea Party...never mind, I just realized that is where I am. Will someone please slay that damned Jabberwock?


18 posted on 09/17/2012 5:30:12 AM PDT by RipSawyer
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To: MachIV

At least in 1980 there was some semblance of fair reporting. Now, an American Ambassador is murdered (even though the State Dept was warned three days in advance!) and his body drug through the streets, gas prices have more than doubled, half the Country is out of work with no real prospects and all of these facts are barely mentioned.


19 posted on 09/17/2012 5:35:36 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty ("Get that evil, foreign, muslim, usurping bastard out of MY White House!" FUBO GTFO!)
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To: Gaffer

I’m a senior too. Yesterday I saw an elderly white man (he had to be pushing 80) with a 2012 obama sticker on his car. It’s mind boggling to me.


20 posted on 09/17/2012 5:36:59 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: The Sons of Liberty

It is my belief that we are also slipping into a 2nd recession that wont be reported until after the election.

My business is very sensitive to future economic conditions, and it just dropped off a cliff.


21 posted on 09/17/2012 5:42:57 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: jersey117

I saw that guy too. He’s actually 40. That’s what liberalism does to ya.


22 posted on 09/17/2012 5:43:11 AM PDT by Bramuce
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Join the club.

4 more years of this hell is unthinkable.


23 posted on 09/17/2012 5:46:11 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: RipSawyer
“Nobody could want four more years of this...”

But Many are afraid the "freebies" will stop!

24 posted on 09/17/2012 5:47:28 AM PDT by radioone ( Main Stream Media. The Government built that.)
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To: SoFloFreeper; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; Impy; stephenjohnbanker; NFHale; ...

Back in 2008 Chris Matthews used to repeat a theory over and over again that I havent heard him say this year. That theory is that many voters are scared to tell polsters that they will vote for Obama because he is black, even if they dont plan on voting for him.

Romney’s main theme has been “Obama is a nice guy but things just havent worked out”, with some exceptions. The libs still complain about his campaign being dirty so I am not sure what it is buying him.

Obama on the other hand Obama has been destroying Romney’s character and person from day ONE.

Now maybe recent events will change the campaigns.


25 posted on 09/17/2012 5:48:49 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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To: TexasFreeper2009
You are absolutely correct! Any statistical reporting from the government certainly cannot be believed and at best it is a lagging indicator. Bernanke's actions last week, no matter how misguided, are a definite sign that the Fed sees it coming also. It's time to call it what is is -
THE 0BAMA DEPRESSION!
26 posted on 09/17/2012 5:50:07 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty ("Get that evil, foreign, muslim, usurping bastard out of MY White House!" FUBO GTFO!)
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To: gotribe

All candidates, no matter when, say ridicuous things...yet none of them can explain how they will actually do them.

I hope Mitt wins just to see what he does. I really have no expectations for any real results.


27 posted on 09/17/2012 5:51:03 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: SoFloFreeper

Propaganda works, that’s why you see so much of it.


28 posted on 09/17/2012 5:53:46 AM PDT by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their president is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: SoFloFreeper

If Republicans just get to the polls on election day the same way we did in 2010, then we will have the same tidal wave result in our favor.

These crap lame-stream polls are using 2008 party weighting and over-sampling Dems. Just don’t believe lame-stream polls. Don’t get down-hearted. Show up on election day and vote.


29 posted on 09/17/2012 6:01:28 AM PDT by ShovelThemOut
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To: MachIV; SoFloFreeper; kearnyirish2; ilgipper; Ann Archy; stuartcr; gotribe; Gaffer; Venturer; ...
MachIV: It’s not 1980 anymore.

Exactly. It's 1984. (Orwell's 1984, not Reagan's)

As long as people like Chris Cillizza are writing the history in newspeak....

30 posted on 09/17/2012 6:16:08 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: kearnyirish2

“Nobody could want four more years of this.”

I wish that were true, but I can name SEVERAL who do. I have a few very liberal friends/family and I see all their friends on Facebook. They will not be voting for Romney (the rich idiot 1%er, liar and income tax cheat) no matter what they think of Obama. And all of these folks are in Oklahoma and Texas, too. :-(

By the same token - I also know of MORE people who don’t. This includes my personal friends, my other FB friends/acquaintances and all of the people here.

We just have to hope that we outnumber them.


31 posted on 09/17/2012 6:23:46 AM PDT by babyfreep
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To: Gaffer
I believe he is better than McCain

Ya got that right.

Romney has wanted this opportunity for the past 5-6 years (or more). I think that he'll fight for it.

McCain was running because it was his turn. Frankly, I'm not entirely sure that he wanted the job.

32 posted on 09/17/2012 7:25:04 AM PDT by wbill
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To: SoFloFreeper

Not the normal ones.


33 posted on 09/17/2012 7:34:26 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: sickoflibs; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; Impy; stephenjohnbanker; NFHale

Something needs to change. I’m falling asleep. Romney needs to attack.


34 posted on 09/17/2012 8:33:39 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker; All

Still say 1980 because of the poor economy and the Middle East on fire, just like Iran was.


35 posted on 09/17/2012 9:03:54 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Biggirl

The MSM is lying, and covering up like never before. Romney has to attack just to get any coverage. Reagan attacked, and even though the media went after him, the truth got through to the people.


36 posted on 09/17/2012 9:11:43 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: RipSawyer

“It is like living in Wonderland”

I don’t believe a single poll that is out there; here in NJ there were plenty of Obama stickers four years ago, now they are few & far between.


37 posted on 09/17/2012 3:44:46 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: babyfreep

“We just have to hope that we outnumber them.”

Most people I know that are better off than four years ago are public school teachers (ones who survived the layoffs); there are not enough of them to re-elect him. The blacks I know are hurting like whites are.


38 posted on 09/17/2012 3:46:40 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: SoFloFreeper

0bama will win. Easily. Romney is running a horrific campaign is handing the election to 0bama on a silver platter.


39 posted on 09/17/2012 5:04:58 PM PDT by GR_Jr. ("On Nov.6 I guess I will swallow that bitter pill called Mitt Romney...only to stop 0bama")
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To: Venturer

“With Gingrich we may have had a chance”

Gingrich would have been a larger disaster. 60% of this country hates him. Romney had a shot, but he is blowing it.


40 posted on 09/17/2012 5:06:55 PM PDT by GR_Jr. ("On Nov.6 I guess I will swallow that bitter pill called Mitt Romney...only to stop 0bama")
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To: GR_Jr.

Hate him or not he was the only one with a brain. The only one who knows how to make Government work.


41 posted on 09/17/2012 5:44:44 PM PDT by Venturer
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