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Tea Party Tribune ^ | 2012-09-17 08:09:01 | mrcurmudgeon

Posted on 09/17/2012 8:45:38 AM PDT by morethanright

By Mr. Curmudgeon:

"We reached out to YouTube to call the video to their attention and ask them to review whether it violates their terms of use," said White House Press Secretary Jay Carney of the controversial video "Innocence of Muslims" that sparked protests at U.S. embassies throughout the Islamic world, "We have made clear that we find it offensive and reprehensible and disgusting. We have denounced it. We have said we find it offensive and reprehensible, but we will not - you know, we cannot and will not squelch freedom of expression in this country."

That begs the obvious question: Why ask YouTube if the video "violates their terms of use" unless you want them to pull it, squelching "freedom of expression in this country"?

There is no question the American left has an affinity for the violent revolutionary uprisings of recent months around the Muslim World - "power to the people" and all.

Last weekend, U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Susan Rice told ABC News the attack on America's diplomatic mission in Libya was "spontaneous" and not "premeditated" and that the "violent protest was undertaken in reaction to this very offensive video that was disseminated," said Rice.

Contrary to the Libyan government's claim that a foreign terrorist organization was behind the murder of U.S. Ambassador John Christopher Stevens, it turns out average Libyan pedestrians treading the Arab Street brought rocket-propelled grenades to the scene - firepower from the people.

It was reported that Nakoula Basseley Nakoula, the filmmaker responsible for uploading the anti-Muslim film to YouTube, was taken by Los Angeles Sheriff's Deputies for questioning, and later by federal agents. Attorney General Eric Holder has since confirmed that the Justice Department is looking into whether Nakoula, convicted in 2009 of bank fraud, may be charged with violating the terms of his five-year probation on the technicality that he employed a fictitious username when establishing his YouTube account.

It sounds very much like a pretext for locking him up as an example to others. However, in some quarters, the solution is to brand such expressions "hate speech," and subject the speaker to criminal or civil prosecution.

In Europe, where Muslim populations are larger than in the United States, legal measures separate the continent's governments from the free speech of its citizens. For instance, Switzerland's Article 261 of the criminal code:

"Any person who publicly incites hatred of discrimination against a person or a group of persons on the grounds of their race, ethnic origin or religion, any person who publicly disseminates ideologies that have as their object the systematic denigration or defamation of the members of a race, ethnic group or religion ... shall be liable to a custodial sentence not exceeding three years or to the monetary penalty."

At the urging of various Islamic groups, which accused Italian author Oriana Fallaci of "racism" in 2002, Swiss legal authorities presented the Italian government with an arrest warrant for the author of "The Strength of Reason." In lieu of extradition, the Swiss said they would accept an Italian prosecution of Fallaci. Italian authorities refused, citing the Italian Constitution's protection of free speech. However, Italian radical Islamist Adel Smith filed a civil action charging Fallaci with "defaming Islam" and "blasphemy." She was eventually acquitted.

In "The Strength of Reason," Fallaci called Europe's growing Islamic population "a government within the government. A Muslim city, a city ruled by the Koran. An Islamic expansion's stage. The expansionism that no-one has ever managed to overcome. No-one. Not even the armies of Napoleon ... Today it's fashionable to beat our breast over the Crusades. To see the Crusades as an injustice committed to the detriment of the poor-innocent-Muslims. But before being a series of expeditions to regain possession of the Holy Sepulture that is of Jerusalem (which had been taken by the Muslims, remember, not by my aunt), the Crusades were the response to four centuries of invasions and occupations. They were a counter-offensive to stem Islamic expansionism in Europe."

Last February, Rep. Maxine Waters (D-CA) told a gathering of American Muslims in Southern California that House Republicans were exploiting fears to a "steady adoption of sharia tenants" in the country. She told the gathering she was one of 74 Democratic co-sponsors of House Resolution 3618, the "End Racial Profiling Act of 2011." The legislation specifically prohibits U.S. law enforcement from "relying, to any degree, on race, ethnicity, national origin, gender, or religion in selecting which individual to subject to routine or spontaneous investigatory activities."

The law authorized "the United States" (a.k.a, Eric Holder's Justice Department) to "enforce this Act in a civil action for declaratory or injunctive relief." For us non-lawyers, "injunctive relief" means the court can order the accused law-enforcement "racial profiler" to cease investigating. Water's attempt to link legitimate worries over sharia encroachments in America with race hatred was a reach. After all, Islam is not a race but a religious ideology practiced by people of all races. Thankfully, the law went nowhere.

Nakoula's "Innocence of Muslims" may be clumsy and ineloquent compared to Oriana Fallaci's well-written history of Islam's transgressions, but both concluded on the same note. Fallaci was hounded by civil actions in Europe until cancer took her life in 2006. It's uncertain if the Justice Department will do the same in Nakoula's case.

The clearing house for American Progressive thought, the Daily Kos, offers the following to its readers: "America can uphold freedom of speech while also calming the Arab world.  This in no way condones violence ... the violence perpetrated is on those Arabs who caused it. BUT the 'freedom' of one man who quite possibly violated his parole is not something America and the world should risk themselves over."

Apparently, Nakoula's freedom to express his views is expendable. That's why the blogger above isolates Nakoula from his fellow Americans by bracketing his freedom behind the iron bars of quotes. In doing so, he condones the violence that took the life of Ambassador Stevens and makes the mistake of thinking Nakoula's incarceration will calm 1,000 years of Islamic conquest and rage.

The response to this cowardice should be as unyielding as the one given by Oriana Fallaci in a 2002 speech. When a radical Islamic cleric issued a fatwa ordering her death, Fallaci said:

"Citing verses of the Koran, he exhorts his brothers in the mosques and the Islamic Community to chastise me in the name of Allah. To kill me. Or rather, to die with me. Since he's someone who speaks English well, I'll respond to him in English: F@#& you!"

That's an eloquent response to those, foreign and domestic, who would have America submit to the submitters.

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1 posted on 09/17/2012 8:45:46 AM PDT by morethanright
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To: morethanright

I got as far as the miss use of “begging the question”.

2 posted on 09/17/2012 8:52:23 AM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: morethanright

To Muslim Rioters:

F*ck You, your Child Rapist Prophet, and your murderous Islam.

And have a nice day!

3 posted on 09/17/2012 8:53:19 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (You didn't build that. The private sector is doing fine. We tried our plan and it worked.)
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To: morethanright

Let’s see - we are one of the most powerful government offices in the land, and we contacted a private corporation and told them we thought what they are doing was disgusting and reprehensible.

But we would never interfere with their free speech.

I’m not a lawyer but my guess is there have been many cases before the Supreme Court where even the SUGGESTION of interference by an agency is considered a threat. The White House has no business suggesting to anyone it doesn’t appreciate their free speech. It’s a threat.

Remember the government lawsuit against Gallup that suddenly popped up after the WH decided it didn’t like their poll results. I’d be very worried if I was Youtube.

4 posted on 09/17/2012 8:54:38 AM PDT by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: I still care

One of the applicable SCOTUS cases.

5 posted on 09/17/2012 8:57:08 AM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: morethanright

There is nothing in the 14 minute video that is real objectionable for a site that lets people post videos of naked kids at the nude beach.

6 posted on 09/17/2012 9:00:00 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: morethanright
I caught the tail end of an interview with a woman on Fox News this morning (I'm not sure who she is, but I'm sure others here can identify her.) She made an excellent point. There is a major Hollywood film in the works about the killing of Osama Bin Laden, which caused some recent controversy because the White House has been actively cooperating in the making of this movie. They may have also given the producers access to classified information regarding the raid on Bin Laden’s compound. If the official White House position is that the current violence is due strictly to a spontaneous reaction to an obscure You Tube video, then won't the White House bear responsibility if the film they are actively backing provokes further violence?
7 posted on 09/17/2012 9:08:05 AM PDT by GreenHornet
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To: morethanright

Good God this is scary. First, you know the WH never watched this video. Next they are calling a private company and denouncing a (probably accurate) video.

Your free speech now owned by Islam.

8 posted on 09/17/2012 9:11:00 AM PDT by Andrei Bulba (No Obama, no way!)
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To: morethanright

I think a way to foul up Muslim protestors is by giving nonsense slogans for those barely literate in English to put on their signs. It would turn them into laughingstocks.

“Behead All Those Who Call For Beheading!”

“Respect The Holy Korn!”

“Do Not Insulate The Profit!”

“Islam Is The Religion Of Pus!”

“Sharia Is The Fecal Solution!”

“Kill All Those Who Expresso!”

“Hitler And Quasimodo Were Right!”

“Islam Will Denigrate The World!”

“Cereal Must Be Cleansed With Fire!”

9 posted on 09/17/2012 9:13:44 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (DIY Bumper Sticker: "THREE TIMES,/ DEMOCRATS/ REJECTED GOD")
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To: Born to Conserve

Don’t be a prig. First of all, there is no “L’Académie française” for English, period. Any useage, accepted and understandable is officially “English”. There are no rules. English is nearly the only language with no solid rules. This is why it is by FAR the most descriptive language in earth. It adapts faster than a virus and spreads like skin cancer.

English against the rule bound languages, is like a pitting a MMA cage fighter against a Queen of Marksbury rules boxer. And the finish is the exactly the same.

The writers use of “begging the question” was clear and understandable. It communicated the idea perfectly, so PRESTO, it’s english. This is the true strength of english. English is in a state of near perpetual change, it rolls along like a snowball over cultures, taking what it likes, and leaving the rest.
The brand spoken in England is now a stale minority dialect.

And far from being a weakness, it is the reason english is the defacto language of earth, and will only solidify that position in future decades.

By the way, the term is “misuse”, and you missed a fine article due to your prigery.

10 posted on 09/17/2012 9:29:10 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy


11 posted on 09/17/2012 2:40:05 PM PDT by Ziva (Check out the great art blog at
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