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Mystery surrounds attack on Benghazi’s US consulate
France24 ^ | 9/17/2012 | Leela JACINTO

Posted on 09/17/2012 8:59:10 AM PDT by 1066AD

Mystery surrounds attack on Benghazi’s US consulate By Leela JACINTO the 17/09/2012 - 15:18

New reports gleaned from Libyan officials and militia commanders suggest that contrary to earlier accounts, last week's deadly attack apparently occurred at two different Benghazi sites in two stages.

Amid contradictory accounts of whether the deadly attack on the US consulate in Benghazi was spontaneous or premeditated, alarming new details have emerged on the September 11 assault, which killed the US ambassador to Libya and three other Americans.

According to senior Libyan officials, as well as militia sources and witnesses on the ground, last week’s seemingly carefully planned assault occurred in two stages at two different sites in the eastern Libyan port city.

In an exhaustive account of the attack, the French daily Le Figaro reported Sunday that only US Ambassador Christopher Stevens perished – from smoke inhalation - inside the US consulate premises. (Click here for the report in French)

At least three other people, including two US Marines, were killed in a house – sometimes called “a farm” by Libyan sources – about a kilometre away from the US consulate premises, according to Le Figaro.

In a timeline of the sequence of events that fateful night - which Le Figaro described as “worthy of a spy novel” – a rebel commander told the French daily that hours after the attack on the US consulate began, he was ordered to go the Benghazi airport to support US Marines who had flown in from the capital of Tripoli.

The order came at around 3am on September 12, according to Imad Shaqabi, a commander of the Dernaa Brigade, one of numerous militias still operating in Libya following the 2011 uprising that ousted Muammar Gaddafi.

According to Shaqabi, they were given no details of their mission. His men assumed they were being called to provide support for the US team to reach a Benghazi hospital to recover Stevens’ body.

The body of the US ambassador to Libya was extracted from the consulate around 1am and had been taken to the hospital in a private car minutes later, according to witness reports.

But when the Libyan militia fighters arrived at Benghazi airport, US Marines provided them with GPS coordinates of a second site about a kilometre from the consulate where US diplomatic staff had fled, the newspaper reported.

A secret second site?

Reports of a second site - which some Libyan officials have called a “safe house” - emerged days after the attack, which killed the first US ambassador in more than 30 years.

In an interview with Reuters last week, Libyan Deputy Interior Minister Wanis Al-Sharif said hours after the attack on the consulate started, US commando units arrived from the capital of Tripoli to evacuate the consulate staff from a Benghazi safe house.

"It was supposed to be a secret place and we were surprised the armed groups knew about it,” Sharif told Reuters.

Sharif’s account of a US commando unit arriving from Tripoli, as well as the deaths of two US personnel in a second Benghazi location, matches the sequence of events relayed by the Dernaa Brigade commander to Le Figaro.

If true, the reports suggest that the assault had been planned in advance by a group – or groups - with access to sensitive security information.

Planned or spontaneous?

Details of the September 11 attack have been sketchy, with senior US officials warning reporters against jumping to conclusions while investigations are still underway.

But over the weekend, senior US officials appeared to backtrack from earlier statements that the assault on the US consulate in Benghazi was premeditated.

"People gathered outside the embassy (consulate) and then it grew very violent and those with extremist ties joined the fray and came with heavy weapons, which unfortunately are quite common in post-revolutionary Libya and that then spun out of control," US Ambassador to the United Nations Susan Rice told Fox News Sunday.

"But we don't see at this point signs this was a coordinated plan, a premeditated attack,” she noted.

Her comments however were in stark contrast to the assessments of senior Libyan officials as well as militia sources in Benghazi.

"The way these perpetrators acted, and moved... leaves us with no doubt that this was pre-planned, determined, predetermined," Mohammed al-Megaryef, president of the Libyan National Congress, told CBS News.

In a phone interview with FRANCE 24 from Benghazi, a fighter with the Shuhada Libya al-Hurra brigade, who declined to be named, said he witnessed the assault on the US consulate and he was sure it was a planned attack.

“They knew the embassy (consulate) very well. They came with heavy weapons and they overtook the place very fast, it was very quick. You can’t do something like that without planning,” he said.

According to the Shuhada Libya al-Hurra brigade fighter, he was unable to get near the consulate premises due to the heavy fighting Tuesday night. Instead his group of fighters were stuck a few blocks away from the by-now burning building, vainly awaiting orders from their commanders.

“It was a mess, there was very heavy fighting. I didn’t understand what was going on. The people attacking the consulate looked like Islamists, they were not at all like the fighters from my katiba (brigade). It was obvious that they had planned this before and they now had a good pretext to attack the embassy (consulate),” he said.

An unclaimed 9/11 attack

The timing of the assault – on the eleventh anniversary of the 9/11 attacks in the US – has also raised questions among security experts.

In a message posted on jihadist sites before the attack, al Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawahiri called on Libyans to target Americans in order to avenge the death of his former deputy, Abu Yahya al-Libi, who was killed on June 4 by a US drone in Pakistan”.

In a statement released over the weekend, the Yemen-based al Qaeda affiliate AQAP (Al Qaeda in the Arabic Peninsula) said al Libi’s killing “increased the enthusiasm and determination of the sons of (Libyan independence hero) Omar al-Mukhtar to take revenge upon those who attack our Prophet".

But the group has not claimed responsibility for the attack.

Libyan officials have arrested around 50 suspects in the attack and have pointed a finger at a Salafist group, Ansar al-Sharia, or “Supporters of Islamic law”.

But following the public outcry against the attack by Benghazi residents, the group’s leaders have tried to distance themselves from the assault, often in what the New York Times called “muddled or contradictory ways”.


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 20120911; 9112012embassyattack; 9112012libyaattack; benghazi; benghazitimeline
“They knew the embassy (consulate) very well. They came with heavy weapons and they overtook the place very fast, it was very quick. You can’t do something like that without planning,” he said.

So, Susan Rice, SHUT UP.

1 posted on 09/17/2012 8:59:17 AM PDT by 1066AD
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To: 1066AD

Mystery? Is that what they call lying now?


2 posted on 09/17/2012 9:01:37 AM PDT by Andrei Bulba (No Obama, no way!)
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To: 1066AD

The only ones who don’t seem to understand are the Obama Administration.

This was a 911 attack under cover of some phony video, they might have made themselves.


3 posted on 09/17/2012 9:02:30 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: 1066AD

Mystery......

Just like B.Hussein O. background and life history...IN A LOCK BOX THAT HAS COST HIM 4 MILLION DOLLARS...WHAT A GUY!!!


4 posted on 09/17/2012 9:03:24 AM PDT by haircutter (.)
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To: 1066AD
Another quote:

" The people attacking the consulate looked like Islamists, they were not at all like the fighters from my katiba (brigade). It was obvious that they had planned this before and they now had a good pretext to attack the embassy (consulate),” he said. "

5 posted on 09/17/2012 9:03:28 AM PDT by 1066AD
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To: 1066AD

Lets see... GAY friend of Obama, with absolutely no qualifications, is suddenly sent as “ambassador” overseas to a country what hates gay people...

Very wise. Maybe he was TOO close of a ‘friend’ to Obama and was about to spill his guts...


6 posted on 09/17/2012 9:04:39 AM PDT by Mr. K (Reagan: “Washington is where good ideas go to die.”)
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To: 1066AD
“It was supposed to be a secret place and we were surprised the armed groups knew about it,” Sharif told Reuters.

Ya think HUMA knew about it?

7 posted on 09/17/2012 9:04:43 AM PDT by ryan71
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To: 1066AD

Mystery? Is that what they call lying now?


8 posted on 09/17/2012 9:04:53 AM PDT by Andrei Bulba (No Obama, no way!)
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To: Andrei Bulba

It’s only a ‘mystery’ if you have an aversion to facts and the historic record.

These people are not fully evolved and certainly have chromosomes missing... no news there.

How could anyone think the events are ‘mysterious’? Well, I guess if you are comfortable with your own denial... if ‘I Hate America’ is your answer to the problems of the world... MAYBE you think it’s a mystery!


9 posted on 09/17/2012 9:12:53 AM PDT by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: Mr. K
I think he was a State Department careerist.
So technically qualified, naive fantasy prone liberal since a Peace Corps alumni but technically qualified

And none of this precludes him being a friend of Zero.

10 posted on 09/17/2012 9:13:03 AM PDT by Reily (l)
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To: 1066AD
"So, Susan Rice everyone connected to the Obama Administration, SHUT UP.

Fixed it.

11 posted on 09/17/2012 9:13:29 AM PDT by Mich Patriot (One way to make sure crime doesn't pay would be to let the government run it. Ronald Reagan)
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To: 1066AD

It is bad enough that we have not been able to trust everything our government tells us for decades.

It now however, is criminal that Libya has a more credible scenario than our administration’s state department.

Should the country somehow wake up and remove every progressive (aka Marxist communist) from office, we need to purge everyone, and I mean everyone from the State Department.

Unfortunately the country did not listen to McCarthy about communists in the State Department but now it is obvious to anyone who has not been drinking the kool-aid that the State Department is working for foreign agents.


12 posted on 09/17/2012 9:17:04 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam!)
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To: 1066AD

So everybody else shoud not “jump to conclusions” ... meanwhile Rice, virtually the entire media and the Obama admin have days and days to spread LIES about the course of events.

Got it.


13 posted on 09/17/2012 9:19:51 AM PDT by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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To: 1066AD
In regards to a rough time line is the following correct.

The attack and statement from the embassy in Egypt occurred at roughly 6:30 AM.

Romney's comments were released 16 hours later at 10:30 PM, during those 16 hours Obama and Hillary were silent.

At 1:30 AM or 19 hours after Egypt The Ambassador was killed. The only public action taken at this point in the time frame was the administrations expressing concern over Romney's comments and the fact that the rioters feelings had been hurt.

14 posted on 09/17/2012 9:30:34 AM PDT by JIM O
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To: 1066AD

I read something over the weekend that said there were charges in the wall surrounding the building and that these were detonated first. I don’t know if this is true, a mistranslation of something, or completely false. But it would sure indicate a high level of planning and coordination, if true.


15 posted on 09/17/2012 9:38:56 AM PDT by livius
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To: 1066AD
"But we don't see at this point signs this was a coordinated plan, a premeditated attack,” she(Rice) noted.

What a complete waste of an education on this AA twit.

The attack occurred on September 11,
What should be the first response be ?


16 posted on 09/17/2012 9:45:07 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: 1066AD

During a time of great national anxiety, our President ran to Las Vegas and hid. Then, he insulted the military and made sure to grab himself some campaign money. What a hero.


17 posted on 09/17/2012 9:53:57 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Mr. K

The Ambassador served as the deputy chief of mission in Libya from 2007 to 2009.

He was the American representative to the Transitional National Council in Benghazi during the revolution in Libya.

Benghazi was the capital of rebel-held Libya during the uprising to oust Qaddafi. This is the same that was attacked June 6th, too.

June 6 2012
“The group was reportedly trying to gain information about its missing leader. The attack ended when the Transitional National Council (TNC) authorised the interior and defense ministries - who oversee a broad constellation of brigades made up of former rebels - to “use all means necessary, including force,” to retake the airport.”
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/breaking-news/us-embassy-in-libya-comes-under-attack/story-fn3dxity-1226386750563

He had served two tours in Libya prior to becoming Ambassador in Jan.

If no FBI is over in Libya and it is too dangerous—who told our gov’t what papers were missing from the consulate? Why wasn’t Stevens at the safe house with the others? Why is it that only Stevens was drug around by the mob?

I suspect Stevens was a Spook.


18 posted on 09/17/2012 9:55:43 AM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: ryan71
Weiner Girl couldn't arrange for Stevens to be at that particular location on that particular day, so the planning and training could be done, only Hillary could.
19 posted on 09/17/2012 10:12:36 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: 1066AD
There was a ladder and there was also a wire of some type hanging down at the 13ish to 16 mark of the Stevens be *rescued* from the bldg video. I couldn't get that to show up on screen cap.

Was the ladder used to cut a phone line? power? some sort of alarm????

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20 posted on 09/17/2012 10:20:47 AM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Mr. K

Actually, he was previously stationed in Libya during the Bush administration. He spoke Arabic and spent most of his career in the Middle East and North Africa.


21 posted on 09/17/2012 11:47:55 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 1066AD

placemark.


22 posted on 09/17/2012 11:24:18 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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