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State board votes that Obama can be on Kansas ballot
The Wichita Eagle ^ | By BRENT D. WISTROM

Posted on 09/17/2012 9:43:45 AM PDT by Be Careful

TOPEKA – The State Objections Board brought the issue of President Barack Obama’s eligibility to be on Kansas ballots to a swift end Monday morning.

After accepting several records related to Obama’s birth in Hawaii, Mark Dugan, Lt. Gov. Jeff Colyer’s chief of staff, moved to overrule the objection and close the board’s meeting.

The board’s unanimous vote brings an end to an objection raised by Manhattan resident Joe Montgomery, who said Obama shouldn’t be on Kansas ballots and isn’t qualified to be president because his parents were not both born in the United States.

Read more here: http://www.kansas.com/2012/09/17/2492998/kansas-expects-to-end-challenge.html#storylink=cpy

(Excerpt) Read more at kansas.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Kansas
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birther; certifigate; constitution; eligibility; kangaroocourt; kansas; kansas2012; kobach; moonbatbirther; naturalborncitizen; obamatruthfile; trustme
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1 posted on 09/17/2012 9:43:51 AM PDT by Be Careful
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To: Be Careful

Yeah if they don’t obey they will be rounded up by the LA sheriffs dept


2 posted on 09/17/2012 9:47:06 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Be Careful

I guess Montgomery doesn’t know where Romney’s dad was born.


3 posted on 09/17/2012 9:49:47 AM PDT by sakic
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To: Be Careful

cowards, all of them


4 posted on 09/17/2012 9:50:22 AM PDT by Mr. K (Reagan: “Washington is where good ideas go to die.”)
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To: Be Careful

Not to be cynical, but will Kansas get a fast-tracked nuclear reactor or other goodies from the feds now?


5 posted on 09/17/2012 9:55:41 AM PDT by Hetuck
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To: Mr. K

With the US Supreme Court as the Cowards In Cheif. All of them.


6 posted on 09/17/2012 9:57:00 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Be Careful

Horseheads in the bed or fish on the doorstep?


7 posted on 09/17/2012 9:58:47 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again")
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To: Be Careful

Surprise, surprise.


8 posted on 09/17/2012 9:59:34 AM PDT by Delhi Rebels (There was a row in Silver Street - the regiments was out.)
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To: Hetuck
Not to be cynical, but will Kansas get a fast-tracked nuclear reactor or other goodies from the feds now?

No, but Obama has a snowball's chance of taking the state anyway.

9 posted on 09/17/2012 10:00:57 AM PDT by Delhi Rebels (There was a row in Silver Street - the regiments was out.)
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To: Delhi Rebels

For the first time in my adult life I am ashamed to be a native of Kansas.


10 posted on 09/17/2012 10:03:34 AM PDT by knew it all the time
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To: Be Careful
Don't be surprised, Kansas did provide US with Kathleen Seibulus. (sp) Among a few other big government politicians. But I might add may God bless those hard working farmers... Remember all that Sprint that occupies a good portion of one of the riches counties in America, Johnson County, KS is led by liberals and Clinton soccer moms.
11 posted on 09/17/2012 10:05:16 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Please help Todd Akin defeat Claire and the GOP-e send money!!!!!)
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To: Be Careful

We left it up to one guy that pulled out at the last minute, eclipsing anyone else from filing.

We should have had a war room to bombard the SOS’s with challenges.


12 posted on 09/17/2012 10:06:29 AM PDT by JohnnyP
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To: Be Careful

Kris Kobach has had it pointed out to him by Attorney Larry Klayman that HI registrar Alvin Onaka declined to verify that the White House image is a “true and accurate representation of the original record on file” - and thus confirms that it is NOT. I will be very interested to see what evidence Kobach has that contradicts Onaka’s prior disclosure - or why any contradictory disclosure by Onaka at this point wouldn’t simply require an investigation to see which of the mutually-exclusive legal claims made by Onaka is actually correct. Regardless of what Onaka may or may not have provided Kobach, Obama has AT BEST 2 contradictory claims from Hawaii regarding the validity of his birth record.

If Kobach was given something that duplicates the MDEC verification - simple verification that the birth claims on the White House BC match the birth claims on the (non-valid) BC in Hawaii.... then Obama doesn’t have ANYTHING to contradict Onaka’s disclosure of a non-valid record. And Kobach’s comment makes it seem like that is what he received from Onaka, if anything.

We’ll see...


13 posted on 09/17/2012 10:08:31 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: Just mythoughts

We elect our share of Democrat governors, but we never give the Dems our electoral votes. The last time it happened was 1964.


14 posted on 09/17/2012 10:17:40 AM PDT by RPTMS
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To: Be Careful

It’s good to be King.

Wonder what little goodies the rock-ribbed-conservative SOS and panel members got in return. Probably nothing. Republicans like to be unpaid whores.

So I guess anyone in Kansas can just post fake documents online that match the fake ones they hold in their possession.

Oh wait, that’s only for the privileged elites from Harvard.

They should just shut down all the law schools especially Harvard’s law school. Nothing good comes out of there.


15 posted on 09/17/2012 10:20:13 AM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: JohnnyP

“We should have had a war room to bombard the SOS’s with challenges.”

It doesn’t matter. The game is rigged. Nobody can ever win. That’s the lawlessness here.


16 posted on 09/17/2012 10:22:38 AM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: Be Careful

http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2012/03/obama-passportgate-history.html

No matter how corrupt you may already think Obama is, this will shock you.

Security breaches at the State Dept. to delete, alter, or build files for Obama.

Some files were completely obliterated like his passport, birth certificate, school records, mother’s passport, marriage & divorce records, school yearbooks, and INS records.

Some were built, like a Selective Service file and a new passport. Some forged like the birth certificate. Mostly with the help of John Brennan, an ex-CIA man with access to the files. He still works for Obama as his assistant.

Obama’s close ties to FactCheck. His multiple visits to Kenya. The murdered informant.

It’s long, but worth reading. Obama makes the Manchurian Candidate look like an amateur.


17 posted on 09/17/2012 10:38:01 AM PDT by BO has to GO
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To: Be Careful
"Kobach said today that he’s convinced that Obama’s birth certificate on the White House website matches the certified copy from the Hawaii Department of Health."

I don't suppose the Kansan peons get to see any proof or are they to rely only on Kobach's beliefs?

I can't imagine how a person with any character (especially a rock-ribbed conservative/sarc) at all could sleep at night participating in this bogus charade. And why bother to have Bar Associations? They don't do anything and really aren't needed any longer.

18 posted on 09/17/2012 10:40:33 AM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: Be Careful
The article is short on details.

There are a few interesting/incriminating bits:

After accepting several records related to Obama’s birth in Hawaii, Mark Dugan, Lt. Gov. Jeff Colyer’s chief of staff, moved to overrule the objection and close the board’s meeting.

What records where accepted?

[Secretary of State] Kobach said today that he’s convinced that Obama’s birth certificate on the White House website matches the certified copy from the Hawaii Department of Health.

Kobach seems to be stating that Kansas has received a certified copy from the Hawaii Department of Health. viz "the certified copy".

This makes his "convinced" comment rather odd. Why not a simple declaratory, "the WH BC PDF matches the certified copy"? What is there to be convinced about, either it matches or it doesn't.

Moreover, "matching" is irrelevant. A certified "true and correct copy" is what is needed. The fact that Kobach has made no direct mention of a certified "true and correct copy" tells us everything.

If Kansas had a such a certified copy we wouldn't be hearing about Kobach being "convinced", would we? We wouldn't be hearing that the WH BC PDF "matches", would we? We would be hearing about the certified "true and correct copy" received from HI DOH.

19 posted on 09/17/2012 10:50:30 AM PDT by Ray76
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To: Be Careful
Eastwood Reloaded (for bear)
20 posted on 09/17/2012 10:50:39 AM PDT by spokeshave (The only people better off today than 4 years ago are the Prisoners at Guantanamo.)
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To: Be Careful

The whole process is corrupted.
Apparently, Americans want quasi-democracy ruled by a smiling dictator..???
Just keep the “freebies” coming says our future peasant class.


21 posted on 09/17/2012 10:58:53 AM PDT by Leep (I'm a Chic-Fil-- A-merican)
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To: Be Careful

Hey State Objections Board ......how much do you cost?


22 posted on 09/17/2012 11:00:47 AM PDT by wesagain (The God (Elohim) of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is the One True GOD.)
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...The night Obama burned the Reichstag down







...We will have these moments to remember






23 posted on 09/17/2012 11:03:51 AM PDT by devolve (----- ------- ------------GO_AHEAD---MAKE_MY_SPAGHETTI-------- ----------------------------)
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To: Smokeyblue

When is Susan Daniels’ case coming up?

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2012/09/susan-daniels-seeks-criminal.html


24 posted on 09/17/2012 11:12:52 AM PDT by JohnnyP
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To: Ray76

I think it’s funny that this guy spent years of his life on higher education, law school, teaching law, and then elected office just to throw “all that learnin’ away” by using his “belief” as some sort of legal proof.

Dude, you could have skipped all that work at law school and just cut to the chase...your beliefs trump any true legal analysis or documents.

Obama just threw all your hard work under the bus. LOL

I tell ya, I never cease to be amazed at what people won’t sacrifice for King Putt.

“Secretary Kobach received his bachelor of arts degree with highest distinction from Harvard University in 1988. He graduated at the top of his class in the Harvard Government Department. In 1988, the British government awarded him a Marshall Scholarship, which took him to England for post-graduate study. In 1992 he received his doctorate in Political Science from Oxford University. In 1995 he received his J.D. from Yale Law School. While at Yale, he taught undergraduates in the Yale Political Science Department, and in 1994 he won the Prize Teaching Fellowship, an award based on student nominations and faculty review. He also served as notes development editor on the Yale Law Journal.”


25 posted on 09/17/2012 11:13:27 AM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: Be Careful
“That for me settles the issue,” he said. “It says that he meets the natural born citizen qualification.”/I>

That settles nothing if all he looked as was something "related" to the birth and not the real bc. Orly should have given them a copy of the SR511 committee paper on McCain's vetting that Obama signed stating that the concensus was the definition of NBC also included TWO US CITIZEN PARENTS.

26 posted on 09/17/2012 11:14:51 AM PDT by bgill
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To: Be Careful
COWARDS!
27 posted on 09/17/2012 11:20:58 AM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: Be Careful

Do *they* put *something* in their water ? I mean, how hard would that be - hmmmmm

Did get to wondering about that after benedict roberts fiasco.

Or then there are the little tiny chips - now apparently one can even *inhale* them - unwittingly.

Or fluoride - in the water, toothpaste etc. Heard that the Nazi guys developed that, the Russians got it, and we brought those Nazi scientists over here - hmmm (affects the mental facilities)

Did I hear Valerie Jarret-Mr Pres is a doctor?


28 posted on 09/17/2012 11:50:02 AM PDT by PraiseTheLord
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To: JohnnyP

I dont know but the susan daniels affidavit is a completely differ issue than the BC.. It is a Idenity theft issue and according to the laws she states in the affidavit, she should have standing— I’d like to know how that one turns out


29 posted on 09/17/2012 11:55:40 AM PDT by chicken head
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To: Be Careful
This is most likely the reason...

Original objector to Obama’s candidacy Joseph Montgomery withdrew his objection under duress. It was widely published that he was under duress. He, his family and co-workers were harassed with e-mails and phone calls.

30 posted on 09/17/2012 12:10:45 PM PDT by lwoodham (I am Andrew Breitbart. Don't doubt me on this.)
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To: Vaquero
Also, wasn't’ the bozo's leftie “mother” born in Kansas, and/or weren’t his leftist “grandparents” from Kansas also?

Wouldn't wanna dis the “Native son and daughter” of the state of Kansas now, would we...hope the folks from Kansas are in no way proud of spawning these three pieces of socialist scum.

31 posted on 09/17/2012 12:20:02 PM PDT by itssme
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To: sakic

I guess you don’t where Romney’s grandparents were born.


32 posted on 09/17/2012 12:31:20 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: butterdezillion

I take this as just another case where elected or appointed government people can do/will do whatever suits their fancy. Been there inside and out. Once in power all people are potential products to be bought by specific interests.


33 posted on 09/17/2012 12:47:04 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: Be Careful

Doesn’t really matter. He’ll lose Kansas but having him missing from the ballot would have hurt the Dems down ballot.


34 posted on 09/17/2012 12:58:40 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Our economy won't heal until one particular black man is unemployed.)
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To: Ray76
I doubt he got anything. They announced that they were taking this matter under consideration last Thursday. Friday they announced they're waiting for confirmation from Hawaii. Today they announced they're satisfied Obama is a natural born citizen. The odds that they got anything from Hawaii in that short a period of time, assuming they requested anything to begin with, is zero.

Someone, probably the Romney campaign since he's an advisor for them on immigration, likely told him to drop it before the ridicule got too loud.

35 posted on 09/17/2012 1:03:57 PM PDT by Delhi Rebels (There was a row in Silver Street - the regiments was out.)
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To: Smokeyblue
"It doesn’t matter. The game is rigged. Nobody can ever win. That’s the lawlessness here."

He's Too Black to Fail.

36 posted on 09/17/2012 1:20:37 PM PDT by Flotsam_Jetsome (If not you, who? If not now, when?)
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To: sakic

Isn’t Joe Montgomery our own edge919?


37 posted on 09/17/2012 1:32:09 PM PDT by BigGuy22
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome

“He’s Too Black to Fail.”

Ya got that right!

And, I don’t care what anyone says, I see a very bright future for Kobach and panel in Barack The Magic Negro’s coming dictatorship.

They’ve excelled quite nicely in our current oligarchy.


38 posted on 09/17/2012 2:02:14 PM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: Brown Deer

The original posted contention states here that Obama should not be on the ballot because both his parents were not born here. Since Romney’s dad was born in Mexico, this makes no sense to me.

Grandparents have whay to do with it?


39 posted on 09/17/2012 2:05:07 PM PDT by sakic
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To: sakic
Since Romney’s dad was born in Mexico, this makes no sense to me.
Grandparents have whay to do with it?


I didn't think it made any sense to you because you don't even understand what his grandparents have to do with it.

When you are born outside of the United States to U.S. citizens then you have U.S. citizenship at birth. George Romney was born to U.S. citizens, from Utah, that were living in a Mormon church colony in Chihuahua, Mexico. So he was born a U.S. citizen at birth. According to Mexican law at the time, he never had Mexican citizenship because he was born to American parents. Mexico abided by versions of jus sanguinis citizenship, Latin for “right of blood,” with birthright citizenship only granted to children born to citizens of Mexico. So, if he could not claim Mexican citizenship, would he have no citizenship at all? There were some who claimed that he was not a “natural” born citizen because he was not born on U.S. soil. So maybe he wasn’t eligible for President, but Mitt Romney was born in Detroit to two U.S. citizens and is definitely a “natural” born U.S. citizen.
40 posted on 09/17/2012 2:12:59 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Brown Deer

When you are born on US soil you are an American citizen. Saying Obama was not born here is arguable so that should be the sole basis of the argument, not where your parents were born.


41 posted on 09/17/2012 2:19:19 PM PDT by sakic
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To: Be Careful

This is great news; it would be terrible if the liberal people in Sebelius’ KS didn’t have the Obama option for November 6. They would be downright onery.


42 posted on 09/17/2012 2:31:17 PM PDT by Theodore R. ( Who among us has not erred? Akin's the One!)
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To: sakic
When you are born on US soil you are an American citizen.

Your original comment was:
"I guess Montgomery doesn’t know where Romney’s dad was born."

So, what's your point?

Saying Obama was not born here is arguable so that should be the sole basis of the argument, not where your parents were born.

You obviously haven't been following the case.
43 posted on 09/17/2012 2:32:34 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Just mythoughts

KS also had pretty hard-core liberal Republican senators for many years in James Pearson, Frank Carlson, and Nancy Kassebaum Baker. Dole really was “conservative” by KS standards..


44 posted on 09/17/2012 2:33:09 PM PDT by Theodore R. ( Who among us has not erred? Akin's the One!)
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To: BigGuy22; edge919
Isn’t Joe Montgomery our own edge919?

Might not be in a talkative mood these days.

45 posted on 09/17/2012 3:02:08 PM PDT by Tex-Con-Man (T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII 2012 - "Together, I Shall Ride You To Victory")
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To: butterdezillion

Here’s another one.

Link only per restrictions.

Lawsuit filed to get Obama off Vermont ballot over birth eligibility

http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/article/20120917/NEWS03/309170021/Former-GOP-Senate-candidate-sues-to-get-Obama-off-Vermont-ballot-over-birth-eligibility?odyssey=mod|newswell|text|FRONTPAGE|s&nclick_check=1


46 posted on 09/17/2012 3:39:53 PM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: Brown Deer

Followed the case. Responded to the original post not the case.


47 posted on 09/17/2012 3:57:46 PM PDT by sakic
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To: Smokeyblue

Nobody is going to stick their neck out. Nobody wants to endure the crap they would get from actually deliberating this.


48 posted on 09/17/2012 4:01:21 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: Ray76

Sounds to me like Kobach is saying he’s convinced that the WH image matches the certified copy that Hawaii sent Obama. But like you say, the word “convinced” means that he’s not coming right out and saying it. He’s saying that he believes it matches, not that he’s been told it matches. So if he’s been told something, it’s something besides a direct statement that it matches. Like maybe a statement that the INFORMATION CONTAINED IN THE RECORD matches. Which is exactly what MDEC was told and it doesn’t mean a thing whether the claims match since the genuine record is not legally valid - all of which has already been pointed out to both Kobach and Schmidt.


49 posted on 09/17/2012 4:32:46 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: DiogenesLamp

I’m sure you are quite correct but I was under the impression that these people were PAID as part of their JOBS to endure this crap.

But then again when you’ve got Thief Justice - It’s not my job - Roberts as a role model, I guess this to be expected in the NEW AMERICA.


50 posted on 09/17/2012 4:46:54 PM PDT by Smokeyblue
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