U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens was breathing when found in embassy

Toronto Star ^ | Sept. 17, 2012 | Maggie Michael

[plain talk]

Did not notice AK weapons but if so that would argue for them being affiliated with the attackers. However I read that the guy who took the video and perhaps some photos was identified and had a facebook page. If true that guy doesn’t sound like al qaeda. More questions than answers

All of this speculation is interesting. Perhaps more will come out. What is getting lost in all this is who is responsible for lax security on 9/11 in a muslim country? The key question is how did obama allow another 9/11 to occur on his watch. Its not like we didn’t know 9/11 was coming.

[Toespi]

So where does the “safe house” come in to play? I am sure the earlier version was that he was taken to the secret safe house, which was also attacked. Didn’t we hear that he was missing for many hours? There needs to be a Congressional hearing, immediately.

[sam_paine]

But who knows. We got way too many armchair know it alls reading too much into too little info.

Yeah. So stick to first order assumptions and quit trying to be too smart by half.

Who the frack cares whether Ahmed or Ahmad pulled him out, or if Ahmed or Ahmad was involved in the initial raid? HE'S DEAD RIGHT? Mission accomplished.

The target was not the building.

[JerseyHighlander]

Arabic speaking journalists (Westerners and Lebanese) have interviewed at least 5 guys who were present when the Ambassador was found.

Every person has had a consistent story, the Ambassador was found alive in the room and was still alive in the video of him being pulled out of the window.

[cherokee1]

It’s been awhile since anybody died working for the Clintons. But it looks like this poor sap got sacrificed in one of Hillary’s schemes. As best I can tell he was a willing party to it, being a professional apologist for Obamuzzie/Hillary and probably had it coming. Everyone in that crowd is going to come to grief most likely.

[Red in Blue PA]

The story leaves out when the ambassador was raped.

[Red in Blue PA]

The story leaves out when the ambassador was raped.

[plain talk]

Yes - that comment was directed to you. No one knows whether the people pulling Stevens out were the same group that attacked the building.

[littleharbour]

All the video shows is a man being pulled out of a building, none too gently. It shows nothing of where he was taken after these two minutes or how he was treated. it is certainly not an exoneration of anyone either in the video or in the terrorist thugs who bombed the place in the first place.

[palmer]

He was holding his own head up. Dead people can’t do that.

[LibFreeUSA]

Isn’t it amazing that we don’t even hear this information from our own government? We have to rely on foreign sources??? Unfreakin-real!!!!

[Girlene]

I never saw him holding his own head up.

[palmer]

very much alive and at least semi-conscious

[palmer]

For comparison: Arizona Police Criticized For Booking Unconscious Man
(They had to hold his head up to get a mug shot of his bloodied face)

[SJackson]

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[LibLieSlayer]

Why did they strip him of his pants and why did his chest appear to be heavily brusied? Why was it reported that his body was missing for many hours? We do not know who or what to believe at this time... 5 or 10 witnesses... it matters not. One thing is for certain... you cannot trust anything out of obama or the US government. Knowing muslims and the mb and al qaeda... I tend to believe the worst.

LLS

[miserare]

Do you still believe in Santa Claus?

[plain talk]

Yep. Not much there. My take is people were celebrating he is dead but others could say they were celebrating he was alive so its not conclusive. Need the video of being dragged.

[Tammy8]

IF they didn’t have any idea who he was why did they all have their cell phones out- so they all wanted pictures of an unknown person that was dying? Sure I believe that...

[Girlene]

See the photos in post 231. Look at his left arn bent up at an odd angle in both photos. I'm assuming this is due to rigor mortis. Rigor mortis begins in the eyelids, neck and jaw....so seeing his eyes open and his neck stiff could be explained by the rigor mortis. At one point in the video that was just released, the same bent arm is seen (at least it looks like it to me). See post 86 This was a screen shot when the Ambassador was being removed from the building by the mob of Libyans.

I think he was dead before they removed him from that building.