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Todd Akinís Wife Compares GOP Abandonment to Rape, Tyranny
http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/09/todd-akins-wife-compares-gop-against-him-to-1776-tyranny-and-rape.php ^ | 9-17-12 | Kleefeld

Posted on 09/17/2012 11:37:16 AM PDT by doug from upland

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To: kabar
The MSM has manufactured this hysteria.

The GOP did not have to jump into the fray and make it far worse. They should have accepted the apology and let the people of MO make their own decision. Instead they chose to immediately subject Akin, one of their own, to public humiliation.

Can you even imagine the Dems doing that?

You nailed it.

51 posted on 09/17/2012 12:56:19 PM PDT by TYVets (Pure-Gas.org ..... ethanol free gasoline by state and city)
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To: kabar

Well then you and everyone else who supports him needs to FUND him. His family needs the money.


52 posted on 09/17/2012 12:56:28 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: kabar

You know, I agree Akin ain’t leaving the race. I think people already know that. Akin should have thought of the money problem before opening his pie hole.

The point is for Akin to just run, don’t call attention to his idiotic claim, and move on. His wife isn’t running so she needs to tend to whatever it is she does daily and stay out of it.

Thank you.


53 posted on 09/17/2012 12:57:50 PM PDT by dforest
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To: ScottinVA
The bar for GOPers is simply higher.

And to clarify... though exiting and giving a more viable candidate a shot at winning would've been the wiser move, the time for Akin to do that has passed, and like it or not, Akin is the one going forward. Besides... he's probably having the time of his life campaigning.

54 posted on 09/17/2012 1:00:30 PM PDT by ScottinVA (If Obama is reelected, America will deserve every mockery that follows.)
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To: Maryhere

You bet, I’ll work on that, but Todd Akin and his wife better pull their heads out of their rears.


55 posted on 09/17/2012 1:02:53 PM PDT by Gator113 (I would have voted for NEWT, now it's Ryan and the other guy.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: doug from upland

why can’t some folks just keep their yaps shut????


56 posted on 09/17/2012 1:04:06 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: kabar
“Akin has six children with three sons having served in the US Marine Corps. Two are on active duty and one is serving as his father's campaign manager.”
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Glad to see that at least some of my fellow VA posters did their homework! As to the oft alleged "hayseedism" Akin's father was third generation Harvard grad ...hardly "a bunch of hicks." The three Marines are/were commissioned officers and all Naval Academy grads ...Perry Akin, the son who is campaign manager, was a Marine 1st Lieutenant w/combat engineers during the battle of Fallujah for which he was awarded the Navy Commendation Medal w/Combat “V.” (one level below the Bronze Star; arguably more significant than a Bronze Star lacking the combat “V”)

Link: http://www.marine-corps-news.com/2005/09/heros_awarded_purple_hearts_co.htm

57 posted on 09/17/2012 1:06:01 PM PDT by Ozymandias Ghost
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To: Nifster
I understand that Akin wants to restore his image-but the last weeks of a Senate campaign is not the right place to do it.

It was a strange set of circumstances that put him in this position, and it probably is a little unfair. But this Senate seat comes up once every six years; it's too important to let a personal quest to prevail over the best course for the country. And fair or not, he blew his lead over McCaskill. I'll vote for Akin, but I sure haven't talked to very many who will say aloud that they support him.

His only chance is that people see his name and McCaskill's on that ballot and immediately come to their senses.

58 posted on 09/17/2012 1:10:53 PM PDT by Repealthe17thAmendment (Is this field required?)
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To: Maryhere
We don’t want GOP Establishment party bosses deciding who MO Senate candidate should be.

Right - we should stick with the choice of McCaskill and the Democrat establishment party bosses instead.

59 posted on 09/17/2012 1:13:41 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: doug from upland
Todd Akin said his wife’s comparisons to 1776 were “a little more grandiose than the way I would say it” — but he did say that there is a “this tremendous sense of uprising I feel among the people I talk to.”

I personally am disturbed by the establishment Republicans failure to respect the integrity of the nomination process. That makes them no better than the corrupt Democrats. Where is the justice? Where is the statesmanship? ...disappointing.

60 posted on 09/17/2012 1:13:45 PM PDT by olezip
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To: kabar
I bet you could scruitize the remarks of every candidate for public office and find gaffes.

Sure you could - but when talking about rape that escalates it to another category. Using the word "legitimate" was a gaffe...what followed is still a major problem.

61 posted on 09/17/2012 1:15:41 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Ingtar
The same people on this forum who see no problem with the bosses of the national GOPe setting aside an election and imposing their candidate upon the people of Missouri from Washington DC are the same ones who have a big problem with the federal government doing the same thing in other areas, like Obamacare.

Ohhh the hypocrisy.

62 posted on 09/17/2012 1:18:15 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: kabar
Since when does one verbal gaffe become a cause to withdraw from a race?

When it is about a subject like rape. Why is that so difficult to understand that goes to a whole other level?

63 posted on 09/17/2012 1:18:19 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: doug from upland
So all the times he ran as a Republican, with support of the party, was what? ...consensual politics? ...friends with benefits?
64 posted on 09/17/2012 1:19:04 PM PDT by Tex-Con-Man (T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII 2012 - "Together, I Shall Ride You To Victory")
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To: Maryhere
We don’t want GOP Establishment party bosses deciding who MO Senate candidate should be.

Yep, conveniently ignore the facts that (1) The Dhims wanted Akin so bad that they put $2m worth of ads to get him the nomination, and (2) Unlike in other cases, the call for Akin's withdrawal came from all stripes of GOP, from Palin and West to Brown, and anyone in between.

65 posted on 09/17/2012 1:20:11 PM PDT by paudio (Post-racial society: When we can legitimately hire and fire a Black man without feeling guilty.)
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To: Uncle Chip
The same people on this forum who see no problem with the bosses of the national GOPe setting aside an election and imposing their candidate upon the people of Missouri from Washington DC are the same ones who have a big problem with the federal government doing the same thing in other areas, like Obamacare. Ohhh the hypocrisy.

That makes absolutely no sense. One is the candidate on a ballot representing the party - the other is public policy. Moreover, they have no power to remove him from the ballot, he must voluntarily decide to drop out.

66 posted on 09/17/2012 1:20:30 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: doug from upland
Lulli Akin says ...are like rape itself... on par with the tyranny that launched the American Revolution.

Said the woman whose dream to be called 'Mrs. Senator' was crushed.

67 posted on 09/17/2012 1:22:38 PM PDT by paudio (Post-racial society: When we can legitimately hire and fire a Black man without feeling guilty.)
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To: olezip
I personally am disturbed by the establishment Republicans failure to respect the integrity of the nomination process. That makes them no better than the corrupt Democrats. Where is the justice? Where is the statesmanship? ...disappointing.

When did this happen? He won the nomination and was in a great position for victory and everyone was in line to assist him. His comments came later that knocked the wheels off the cart - that is something he did to himself.

68 posted on 09/17/2012 1:23:39 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: kabar
HE IS THE NOMINEE FUNDS OR NO FUNDS.

You got it right there. No funds.

69 posted on 09/17/2012 1:25:24 PM PDT by paudio (Post-racial society: When we can legitimately hire and fire a Black man without feeling guilty.)
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To: Republican Wildcat
One is the candidate on a ballot representing the party - the other is public policy.

One is the candidate on a ballot representing the party that chooses public policy.

Moreover, they have no power to remove him from the ballot, he must voluntarily decide to drop out.

The reason that Priebus, Rove, Cornball, and Barbour are and were all upset is that when they told Akin to jump, he didn't jump.

70 posted on 09/17/2012 1:26:44 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: ScottinVA; All
And to clarify... though exiting and giving a more viable candidate a shot at winning would've been the wiser move, the time for Akin to do that has passed, and like it or not

FALSE. Akin has NINE days left to make that move. The only fallout is having to pay for printing ballots.

71 posted on 09/17/2012 1:27:26 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Election night is 50 days away.)
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To: Uncle Chip
The reason that Priebus, Rove, Cornball, and Barbour are and were all upset is that when they told Akin to jump, he didn't jump.

You are quite right about that, especially when you consider the consequences of his decision to stay in - the election will be won by McCaskill.

72 posted on 09/17/2012 1:29:31 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: doug from upland

Tweedle Dum and Tweedle Dee
Say you must obey the GOP

73 posted on 09/17/2012 1:30:14 PM PDT by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their president is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: Republican Wildcat
His comments came later that knocked the wheels off the cart - that is something he did to himself.

So he was the one who withdrew $15 million dollars from his campaign??? Get real.

Even the Democrats in Missouri were amazed at how suddenly Rove and the GOPe jumped on him to resign. They said we didn't have to do anything or make an issue out of it. The GOPe did our work for us. We just sat back and let them take him out.

74 posted on 09/17/2012 1:32:48 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Gay State Conservative

It’s official, to many mirrors in their house.


75 posted on 09/17/2012 1:33:03 PM PDT by MaxMax
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To: Ozymandias Ghost
Glad to see that at least some of my fellow VA posters did their homework!

He's a fine fellow and his children are Great Americans. But, he can't win this race, perhaps the only person in the entire state of Missouri who cannot beat McCaskill.

76 posted on 09/17/2012 1:33:42 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: centurion316

If he had resigned due to pressure from Rove et al, Claire would have been an even more certain winner.


77 posted on 09/17/2012 1:35:30 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: doug from upland

Ah yes, the woman behind the man. No surprises here.


78 posted on 09/17/2012 1:40:48 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: Maryhere

“We don’t want GOP Establishment party bosses deciding who MO Senate candidate should be”

It’s SOP, they’d rather see McKaskill in than a conservative. They know which side their bread is buttered on.


79 posted on 09/17/2012 1:43:15 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas, Texas, Whisky)
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To: doug from upland

He better hope the rabbit doesn’t die!


80 posted on 09/17/2012 1:48:20 PM PDT by grellis (I am Jill's overwhelming sense of disgust.)
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To: kabar

We will win the Senate without Missouri (NE + ND + MT + VA + WI + other possibilities - ME). But, we might not win the White House without Missouri. The $1.5 million spent by the Democrats to nominate Akin in our primary was the smartest investment they made this election cycle.


81 posted on 09/17/2012 1:48:53 PM PDT by Redmen4ever
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To: Redmen4ever
The $1.5 million spent by the Democrats to nominate Akin in our primary was the smartest investment they made this election cycle.

The $5 million withdrawn from this race by Rove/GOPe may prove to be the dumbest of their investment decisions.

82 posted on 09/17/2012 1:58:55 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: JCBreckenridge
It’s SOP, they’d rather see McKaskill in than a conservative. They know which side their bread is buttered on.

I have no doubt Akin is going to be made into another Christine O'Donnell, but the fault will lie squarely on those looking to placate the left.

I stopped being a Republican when Priebus publicly stated the party would not support Akin even if he were running even with McCaskill. And any Republican who went along with him stopped being a Conservative then, too.

You people who jumped on the bandwagon after Akin's minor faux pas deserve four more years of Obama. You and yours don't have the stones to govern a great country.

83 posted on 09/17/2012 2:03:26 PM PDT by papertyger ("Hate" is the name used by the wicked to condemn the innocent....)
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To: Uncle Chip
So he was the one who withdrew $15 million dollars from his campaign??? Get real.

If the national GOP and affiliated groups did not distance themselves from Akin after his "legitimate rape" comments, every GOP candidate nationwide would have to answer the question of why they were taking money from the GOP === an organization that believed in the term legitimate rape and magic uterus theory. Every GOP senate candidate would have been forced to disavow Akin, yet say it was OK to take money from the national GOP who had not taken a position on Akin's comments. I cannot believe the Akin supporters cannot understand the dynamics involved. This is not about the national GOP trying to dump a conservative --- its about the national GOP trying to preserve the party's nominees in the remaining national elections from Todd Akin's irresponsible, undisciplined comments.

84 posted on 09/17/2012 2:04:26 PM PDT by double_down
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To: ScottinVA
Much as it's wrong, it's still the dynamic under which GOP candidates have to operate. Dems can say off-the-cuff crap all day long, but the expectation is that's par for them. The bar for GOPers is simply higher.

Sorry, I just don't accept that premise or assumption. We must at least try another approach, i.e., confrontation, than our current response, which isn't working. The more we cave in, the more it encourages the MSM to continue with their tactics.

85 posted on 09/17/2012 2:06:21 PM PDT by kabar
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To: papertyger

You’re preaching to the choir sir. :)

I think it’s disgusting what the GOP is doing to solid conservative candidates, but then they’ve been doing it for a year in the primaries.


86 posted on 09/17/2012 2:07:00 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas, Texas, Whisky)
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To: JCBreckenridge

re: It’s SOP, they’d rather see McKaskill in than a conservative.
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Nonsense. Is the party refusing to send money to conservative candidates?


87 posted on 09/17/2012 2:08:59 PM PDT by doug from upland (I don't like RINOs, but I love my country more than I hate Romney...Muslim marxist, get out!)
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To: Redmen4ever
The GOP is digging themselves into a hole. By ditching Akin they have riled up a good portion of their base.

Hell I may have to reconsider my vote.

Reminds me of when the party dumped Buchanan for dumb Dole. The guy who bragged that he never read or cared what was in the GOP platform.

The GOPe are bent in staying in power even if it means losing the election.

88 posted on 09/17/2012 2:09:03 PM PDT by duckln
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To: allmendream

LOL. We have two choices for senator in MO—Todd Akin or Claire McCaskill. If winning this seat is so important, why shouldn’t the GOP support its own candidate? Or at least refraining from attacking him.


89 posted on 09/17/2012 2:09:12 PM PDT by kabar
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To: double_down

ditto.....Akin did harm and gave them an issue they could ride to November across the country


90 posted on 09/17/2012 2:10:39 PM PDT by doug from upland (I don't like RINOs, but I love my country more than I hate Romney...Muslim marxist, get out!)
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To: doug from upland

Look, we need MO if we are going to take the Senate. The party needs to stand behind Akin. 100 percent.


91 posted on 09/17/2012 2:12:51 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas, Texas, Whisky)
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To: dforest
The point is for Akin to just run, don’t call attention to his idiotic claim, and move on.

I think the onus falls on the GOP to stop attacking Akin and actually support him. He is the nominee based on a primary.

92 posted on 09/17/2012 2:14:25 PM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

The Akins are the stupid party.


93 posted on 09/17/2012 2:19:27 PM PDT by liberlog
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To: doug from upland
Nonsense. Is the party refusing to send money to conservative candidates?

What an asinine question!

They are refusing to send money to THIS conservative candidate.

If it were not for the likes of you, we'd be running Sarah Palin.

94 posted on 09/17/2012 2:19:40 PM PDT by papertyger ("Hate" is the name used by the wicked to condemn the innocent....)
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To: kabar
Because money wasted on Akin and his family/campaign staff is better spent elsewhere - he is a lost cause. Moreover he put his own aspirations and self interest and the continued paychecks of his wife and son above the good of the nation and the good of the party and the good of the citizens of Missouri.

Most GOP voters of Missouri did not vote for Akin - it is not as if he won a huge mandate. In a three way race he barely won - and with crossover voters and a bit of help from McCaskill - who (I wonder why?) wanted HIM as her opponent.

I am sure the majority of GOP party people would be glad to refrain from “attacking” Todd Akin - but his twit wife seems to be “attacking” the GOP, allowing everyone to remember what her idiot husband said - and making sure his idiocy is front and center for the MSM to brand all Republicans as half wits.

He is your candidate now. So fund him. He didn't think he needed the GOP, or to listen to them - so I don't see how it is incumbent upon those dreaded “outsiders” to fund his idiocy and his campaign staff/family.

They need to find a new job.

95 posted on 09/17/2012 2:20:33 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: Republican Wildcat
Akin said he made a misstatement. It should have been forcible rape, a catgegory established by the FBI to distinguish it from statutory rape. The distinction and definition are important to Akin because he sponsored a bill along with Paul Ryan to limit federal funding to forcible rape.

Is the misuse of a word so grievous that Akin should have immediately withdrawn from the race even after he apologized less than 24 hours later and explained that he used the wrong word? What kind of outrageous standard are we setting for out candidates?

96 posted on 09/17/2012 2:21:14 PM PDT by kabar
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To: doug from upland
Akin did harm and gave them an issue they could ride to November across the country

YOU are giving "them" their best weapon...a opponent that wants approval from the opposition.

97 posted on 09/17/2012 2:24:00 PM PDT by papertyger ("Hate" is the name used by the wicked to condemn the innocent....)
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To: Uncle Chip

Sorry sir, it’s implied in the statement: that “the body,” meaning the uterus “has ways to shut that down,” that’s a special or magical property of the uterus, hence: MAGIC UTERUS. It’s not a giant leap of logic. We (Republicans, conservatives, constitutionalists, pro-lifers) will be beaten to death with this if we support him. He has to put his ego aside and do what’s right to advance the conservative cause, otherwise we will lose the seat plain and simple.


98 posted on 09/17/2012 2:25:02 PM PDT by FreedomFighter1013 (The Obamas: Grifter-in-chief and Michie the Moocher)
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To: doug from upland
How about some of your poetry to support your lynching of Akin.

You can sum-mate it with the tripe and personnel attacks you've been posting against a candidate most from MO have chosen.

Hurry up the election is in a couple of months.

99 posted on 09/17/2012 2:25:33 PM PDT by duckln
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To: doug from upland

“No thanks. Flushing money down the toilet is not something I find financially prudent. Any money I may give during this campaign season will go to someone who has a chance to win.....”
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Different strokes for different folks. Immediately after Akin’s gaffe I was doing my part to get him to withdraw. He didn’t and is therefore still our candidate. He has a superb record as a very conservative congressman. And now it is quite clear that HE OWES ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO THE GOPe. Since he’s in and I want a conservative dominated Republican caucus leading the Senate, I’m supporting him.

After my initial reservations, I got over my negative feelings and have donated to his campaign and will do so again. I urge anyone who wants to see McCaskill out and a conservative in to do the same if your finances allow.

http://www.akin.org/campaign/lower-taxes-lower-regulation

If you don’t feel like supporting him, fine—just don’t join the GOPe in waging jihad against him.


100 posted on 09/17/2012 2:27:28 PM PDT by House Atreides
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