Skip to comments.Romney Talks Bluntly of Those Dependent on Government
Posted on 09/17/2012 4:48:47 PM PDT by Evil Slayer
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Is there something Mitt can say where the media will NOT bash him non-stop?
My father was forced onto Medicare. When he turned 65, his employer said they had no choice.
He was a WWII vet and had paid into SS for half-a-century, and when he retired he didn’t take any payouts until he reached 71. He died last month at 85.
Social Security was never meant to support illegal aliens or drug addicts considered disabled.
Push it even harder, the unemployed who want to work and build a future will get on board, the grifters will always grift.
More importantly is turn out. tell the lazy, they are lazy , they really will respond by sitting on their hands and they won't vote.
Scream about rugged individualism, tell people they can succeed and the gov't will only help by leaving them alone......that will move voters.
that was done when the left started the 99%- the 53% though represented those if us who pay federal income tax...
The country is going broke anyhow and why not go down on some principle. Eventually these 47% will rue the dayprobably in near future..
I think that some of those “depending” on government realize it is because of obama whose attempts to redistribute wealth have put them in that situation.
I may not like Romney at all, but on some issues he is right. And on this, he is dead on. He’s not saying he does not WANT the vote of that 47%, but he is correct that there is no reason to expect any argument he can make to get these people to willingly give up their welfare... which is what you are getting when you either on direct welfare payments, or when you work buy pay no taxes. It means everyone else pays yours for you. Same thing.
Who is going to give up the free ride willingly? 1% at the most?
I agree. The question is will it drive a certain fraction of them who weren't going to vote to the polls.
Nevertheless, I gotta admit I agree with almost everything he's said here and he may be in the process of winning this skeptical conservative over. The correct reaction here is NOT to run from these statements, but back them up with facts and statistics. If he retreats, he loses.
that’s definitely not a backtrack....
Reince preibus already did tonight on CNN
That was no backtrack. You are just looking for something.
doesn’t matter what the truth is, they will beat Romney over the head with this until the debates and try to get him saying something contrary to what he tells donors.
This sucks and will become an unnecessary distraction and I imagine the media will run with it, out of context of course and there will be ads running by Tuesday.
With all due respect, did you just get here or something?
The media will bash him no matter what as you have seen with Romney’s strong statement on Egypt.
Jesus doesn’t deserve that kind of disrespect. Please don’t use his name as a cuss word.
He should offer to lift them up so their kids wont grow up with no hope for a better life.
I disagree about the “independents”. I believe most of them are working people, and would tend to agree with Romney on this. They are just as tire of pulling the wagon as the rest of us.
Amend to that!!!!!
Well said. I just went to the Romney web site and submitted a “suggestion”. I told them I commended Gov. Romney for his comments and not to back down or “walk it back”.
>>BANG!!!!!! Another shot in the foot. He goes from cold and heartless to flip flopper in 2 seconds.<<
If you’re not looking to be offended, you’ll see it’s a clarification. He was talking to those who will vote for him and that’s what the comeback was about.
Stick around a year or two and you’ll learn.
LBJ,Ted Kennedy and many others might disagree with you on that.
I find this absolutely refreshing. I want MORE of this talk from Mitt. If the boot-licking media is already cheering a re-election may as well go for the throat.
The left have so twisted the debate that truth is the new pornography.
My fellow FReeper, I didn't worry what I said during my campaign because, in my heart, I knew I was right. The left and the media said I was a loser for stating the truth. Well....why don't you think about it. I won the election and I won with a pretty darn good mandate.
Funny I haven’t seen you post here till now..
I strongly disagree. This isn't a distraction at all. This issue is the very essence of this election - the moochers versus the producers.
If he loses on this message, at least we will know for sure where we stand as a nation.
A goodly part of that 47% are not in the group by choice. Romney can peel them off if he can explain how he's going to make it possible for them to rise up out of government dependency. It's a huge mistake simply to write them off.
You know quite a few of the “producers” actually long to be part of the “moocher” class.
And what would they be doing if he hadn't said it?
Agreed...I know some folks with EBT cards, and they feel humiliated that they would have to take such a handout. They would prefer to earn their keep...do not lump them in with the moochers...
They may be in the 47%, but the good news is that they don't feel like 47%-ers. They feel they earned their retirement. And they're pissed that Zero raided Medicare to finance his Obamacare boondoggle.
I predict Romney carries the cotton heads!
Yes. I agree. If we read the words, we get it, but MAN...are they all over this in the media, message boards, Twitter etc. Romney did NOT need this.
I also agree Strongly with Mitt on this.
Yes, the media will use this against him. Well heck, if he mentions what toothpaste he uses they will find a way to use that against him also. Their in full attack mode now.
Some on disability are legit, some scams, among desperation due to economy.
If he can somehow redirect it back at the government failed them with policies that leave them disadvantaged due to
governments failure to provide a quality education for all this tax money vs Dog and pony show they put on.
It's hardly a distraction. It's the central issue of this election takers vs makers. On it turns the question of whether we regain our former preeminence among nations or instead turn into Argentina. The more closely it's explored, the worse for Obama and the Democrats!
I swear that the left has painted evil as good and good as evil. Unlike a non believer... I KNOW how this all ends. I want to make America the best and strongest and most proserpous Nation to ever exist... again... and I will never agree that telling a lie or running from the truth is a winning strategy. Take away the truth and one becomes a democrat.
When you rob Peter to pay Paul and Paulette, you win the election.
It’s getting pretty close to that tipping point where more people will be on welfare/govt assistance than actually working and we might never win an election again....
it won’t get explored, the words will be taken out of context and exploited. This is bad for the Romney brand and will force them to go off message to deal with this.
Maybe. However, I’ve had money stolen from my paycheck from the government all my working life...how about you? They just have to give back what I didn’t give them permission to take in the first place, and I’ll be satisfied.
I also wish he said this in a campaign speech and not in a private setting.
Love the NYT comments-LOLOL!
The way I took what he said was not that he didn’t care about people on gvt aid
he just said he didn’t care about winning them over because they wont vote for him anyway.
Yes! This is true. Have you read The Coming Insurrection? It's written by a few French socialists --a sort of manifesto. They clearly state that they feel that the socialists have been given enough time to deliver Nirvana and that they are out of time. They plan on destroying the system and ending the concept of work.
This communist revolution is very different from communist revolutions in recent history. In previous revolutions, work and the worker was, at least, initially glorified.
I think this “leak” might have been brilliant strategy on the part of Team Romney.
Let the Rats think they found a big secret and let THEM be the ones to broadcast the message far and wide. lol
Let THEM spent their millions to spread the message of Reagan.
Romney, you magnificent bastard!!!
I love it!!! This is a rope-a-dope.
This wasn’t John F’n Kerry’s off-mike comment....this was Romney strolling up to a mic and speaking very loudly and openly to a room full of people. He is not a stupid man.
THIS IS MORE LIKE IT! The gloves are about to come off. Romney is IN IT TO WIN IT!!!!
“Romney...should run with this.....ask yourself...how did this happen...how are your neighbors, co-workers...people that used to stand proud, carry the mail, make the cars, build the houses,start the businesses....now dependent on the Government....and Obama is proud? “
This is a great point. I know of a few families that have never taken any assistance in their lives previously, but have had to because of the Obama Economy. There is a portion of the 48% that are content being on government assistance forever. However, I know there are those who don’t want to be dependent and really want a decent paying job.