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U.S. military suspends joint patrols with Afghans (Thank God!)
CBS Evening News ^ | September 17, 2012 | David Martin

Posted on 09/17/2012 5:25:49 PM PDT by hamboy

The strategy for getting U.S. forces out of Afghanistan depends on training Afghan soldiers and police to protect the country themselves, but on Monday the U.S. military suspended most joint field operations with Afghan forces because so many Americans are being killed by the men they are training.

Afghan government troops -- our allies -- have turned their guns on NATO forces 36 times this year, killing 51, most of them Americans. That is more attacks than the last two years combined.

(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: afghans; patrol; pentagon; queda
I got a close family friend buddy there a USMC AH-1W pilot just promoted to captain they're being targeted because a British royal also there being punished for his crazed nude party photos all their lives being jeopardized...
1 posted on 09/17/2012 5:25:54 PM PDT by hamboy
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To: hamboy

Time to move out and let the Taliban kill each other.


2 posted on 09/17/2012 5:29:41 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: hamboy

Could it be argued that our Afghan allies are our worst allies in the history of this country? Placing them ahead of the French in WWII especially in Nothern Africa?


3 posted on 09/17/2012 5:30:18 PM PDT by castlegreyskull
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To: hamboy

personally, i would get out of afghanistan as fast as possible and just bomb the pigs every time they gave us a hard time.

you cannot rebuild these idiots country. bomb them back into the stone age, my mistake, that’s where they are now. an occasional bomb will keep them there.

blessings, bobo


4 posted on 09/17/2012 5:31:33 PM PDT by bobo1
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To: hamboy
The strategy . . . depends on training Afghan soldiers and police to protect the country themselves

Protect the country against whom? Themselves?

5 posted on 09/17/2012 5:38:18 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

About 2 years ago


6 posted on 09/17/2012 5:40:48 PM PDT by reefdiver (zer0 One and Done)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

Agreed. There is nothing we can do to help them. Play each tribe/faction against each other to keep them weak and divided. Same goes for Pakistan.


7 posted on 09/17/2012 5:41:38 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: bobo1
you cannot rebuild these idiots country.

It could be done if we were willing to fight these wars properly and with the necessary brutality. Unfortunately, we are not.

8 posted on 09/17/2012 5:44:24 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: hamboy

Afghan soldiers see 0bama as on THEIR side, and the American soldier is the odd man out. THAT is the issue, more so than whether we should be there any longer or not. Unlike President Bush, 0bama simply hasn’t shown ANY disdain for the enemy. None. As a result, the enemy has become more emboldened, and our soldiers pay the price. Factor in 0bama’s OBSESSION WITH THE NEW ‘GAY AMERICAN SOLDIER’ brand and the problem is further exacerbated. Sort of like sending a gay Ambassador to Libya. It seems to be an almost intentional provocation.


9 posted on 09/17/2012 5:44:35 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: PGR88

“Agreed. There is nothing we can do to help them. Play each tribe/faction against each other to keep them weak and divided. Same goes for Pakistan.”
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Odd how O has no trouble using that exact strategy here at home but refuses to use it on his kinfolk in the middle east?


10 posted on 09/17/2012 5:50:58 PM PDT by Ms Mable
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

Meanwhile our soldiers are being forced to take Muslim sensitivity training classes.


11 posted on 09/17/2012 5:51:57 PM PDT by stocksthatgoup (Wealth = Net Worth ///// Income = Net Work)
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To: hamboy

Treat Afghan soldiers like Panetta treats US soldiers- take away their guns


12 posted on 09/17/2012 5:52:46 PM PDT by bunkerhill7 ( . Who knew??)
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To: castlegreyskull

The French weren’t our allies in North Africa until the deal with Darlan went through. Until then they were enemies.
After that they weren’t very useful in Morocco, but at least they weren’t shooting Americans in the back.
And in Italy, after they were refitted and retrained, they cracked and broke open the Gustav line (leading to the final taking of Monte Cassino), where the Americans and British had failed. They were good soldiers.


13 posted on 09/17/2012 5:58:53 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: hamboy

The current WH occupant should, in theory, have absolutely no support amongst the military in november.

How much longer must the nation-ending policies of the WH continue, the idiotic policies that not only result in hundreds of millions in wasted dollars in wrecked and damaged equipment - but the priceless sacrifice of thousands of American casualties.

Purposely tying one hand behind the back of our own military, making them fight side by side with the very same murderous cult that has declared war on us...

I can’t believe that marine squadron command was killed in the inside job attack in A-g-stan.

Un-be-lievable, I never thought I’d see the day.


14 posted on 09/17/2012 6:07:21 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves.)
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To: Longbow1969

i believe that we need to kill their god.

turn mecca into a sea of glass, along with medina, and bulldoze down the dome of the rock for starters.

messed around with these infidels for 1400 years. about time to get rid of them.

blessings, bobo


15 posted on 09/17/2012 6:08:55 PM PDT by bobo1
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To: stocksthatgoup

My dog recently took that class. Incredibly, it worked; since then, she’s been leaving little muslims all over the yard...


16 posted on 09/17/2012 6:21:16 PM PDT by MarineDad
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To: hamboy
they're being targeted because a British royal also there being punished for his crazed nude party photos all their lives being jeopardized... ,

A naked royal is not the problem.....muslims are the problem, they need no excuse to kill.

Put the blame where it belongs, a murderous cult and a criminal r.o.e.

17 posted on 09/17/2012 6:27:08 PM PDT by Kakaze (I want The Republic back !)
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To: stocksthatgoup
"Meanwhile our soldiers are being forced to take Muslim sensitivity training classes."

Politically correct wars cannot be won, especially when they're being directed by idiot polititions who telegraph our every move and publish a time table for our surrender.

The only difference between us(USSA) and the Russians(USSR) is that they just snuck out with their tails between their legs. We're announcing when we're going to sneek out with our tails between our legs exactly like Vietnam!!!

18 posted on 09/17/2012 6:32:27 PM PDT by SierraWasp ("The New Normal," is FAR from any normality!!!)
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To: hamboy
I read that 8 out of 10 Harrier Jets were destroyed.

That's a large loss...and expensive.

This one was a big victory for them and they are going to think that they are again advancing in the WOT with all the events of the last few days.

19 posted on 09/17/2012 6:48:53 PM PDT by what's up
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To: castlegreyskull

I would not classify them our allies.

GWB lost his way in this war and the Muslim in the White Hut is doubling down. We should have never ever started the nation building bull scat.

Go in, kick some serious ass and get our boys out. This nation building shiit in a country that lives in the 12th century and it’s favorite pastime is screwing goats is a frickin joke. They do not want to be civilized, they want to live to kill each other and us if they get a chance.

Obama loves to see our young men and women die for nothing and GWB thought he could accomplish something that history would remember him for. In both cases it is bull scat. No one has ever been able to bring peace to this hell hole.

GET THE HELL OUT NOW. EXPEND ALL ORDINANCE BEFORE LEAVING....


20 posted on 09/17/2012 7:01:34 PM PDT by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it)
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To: buwaya

“The French weren’t our allies in North Africa until the deal with Darlan went through. Until then they were enemies.
After that they weren’t very useful in Morocco, but at least they weren’t shooting Americans in the back.
And in Italy, after they were refitted and retrained, they cracked and broke open the Gustav line (leading to the final taking of Monte Cassino), where the Americans and British had failed. They were good soldiers.”

My mistake. I was alluding more to the uncertainty to the reception we would receive from them. Afterwards, I have never heard of reports of the French deceiving us, or shooting intentionally in the back.


21 posted on 09/17/2012 7:06:30 PM PDT by castlegreyskull
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To: hamboy

This is the best news I’ve seen in weeks, and I’m not kidding.

Now bring our guys home.


22 posted on 09/17/2012 7:13:08 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Longbow1969
you cannot rebuild these idiots country. It could be done if we were willing to fight these wars properly and with the necessary brutality. Unfortunately, we are not.

But why would we want to bother? The "graveyard of empires" has no strategic value.

The Weinberger doctrine:

1.The United States should not commit forces to combat unless the vital national interests of the United States or its allies are involved. 2.U.S. troops should only be committed wholeheartedly and with the clear intention of winning. Otherwise, troops should not be committed. 3.U.S. combat troops should be committed only with clearly defined political and military objectives and with the capacity to accomplish those objectives. 4.The relationship between the objectives and the size and composition of the forces committed should be continually reassessed and adjusted if necessary. 5.U.S. troops should not be committed to battle without a "reasonable assurance" of the support of U.S. public opinion and Congress. 6.The commitment of U.S. troops should be considered only as a last resort.

23 posted on 09/17/2012 7:28:55 PM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: castlegreyskull

French forces didn’t have orders to permit the Allied landings. In fact they were under orders to resist. Some fought harder than others, some surrendered immediately. The general ceasefire came from orders issued by the French commanders (Darlan and Juin) who had fortunately been captured in Algiers by the Free French guerillas. Otherwise the fighting could have gone on longer than the three days (Nov 8-10) it did.


24 posted on 09/17/2012 7:38:00 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: BlatherNaut
Should never have tried to reform these people....Read Horse Soldiers..You have to let the Afgans do the fighting...They may let you help them...But they do not really trust Westerners..
25 posted on 09/17/2012 7:38:33 PM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: hamboy

Last American out sets the timer.


26 posted on 09/17/2012 8:07:40 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Take two Aspirin and call me in November - Obama for Hindmost.)
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To: Kakaze
The naked royal is not the problem....

BUT Taliban in pursuit of him dead or alive that special contingent of British troops assigned for the security of Apache gunner Capt Wales.

27 posted on 09/17/2012 10:31:09 PM PDT by hamboy
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