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Obamaís DOJ Canít Say Criticizing Religion Will Remain Legal (Video at Link)
NRO ^ | September 17, 2012 5:48 P.M.

Posted on 09/17/2012 6:05:16 PM PDT by Perdogg

The exchange below, between Representative Trent Franks and Assistant Attorney General Thomas Perez, occurred in late July, but is particularly relevant today. Representatvie Franks tries to extract an assurance from Perez that the Obama administration will not push a proposal to criminalize speech “against any religion.” He has a tough time doing so.

(Excerpt) Read more at nationalreview.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 1stamendment; freedom; freedomofreligion; freespeech; istanbulprocess; marxistcoup; ncla; thomasperez; trentfranks; wagthevideo
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1 posted on 09/17/2012 6:05:24 PM PDT by Perdogg
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To: Perdogg

Makes the timing of the Libya attack and resultant blaming of a movie that much more suspicious.


2 posted on 09/17/2012 6:08:11 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

Wouldn’t this “change in freedoms” require a constitutional amendment?


3 posted on 09/17/2012 6:10:36 PM PDT by Terry Mross (The Clintons are extremely afraid of obama. Do they owe him their souls?)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

I’m not worried. The aclu will get out in front of this issue. /s


4 posted on 09/17/2012 6:11:06 PM PDT by Eddie01 (Liberals lie about everything all the time.)
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To: Perdogg

One cannot criticize Islam, but it will be okay to criticize Christanity.


5 posted on 09/17/2012 6:12:44 PM PDT by moviefan8
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To: Terry Mross

I’m expecting all republicans to stand up and fight. They will start tomorrow for sure.


6 posted on 09/17/2012 6:12:58 PM PDT by Eddie01 (Liberals lie about everything all the time.)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

Well, if they decide to pursue this avenue, I certainly hope Obama’s DOJ goes after Sony’s new flick “Zero Dark Thirty,” along with the White Hut and Pentagon officials who provided the classified info to make this muslim-hating movie.


7 posted on 09/17/2012 6:13:19 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: Perdogg

Gee, I wonder why the Obama regime keeps pointing to the video.

Gee.

Don’t waste a good crisis.

If you don’t have a crisis, manufacture one.

Fast and Furious didn’t work.

So let’s try Fast and Furious II.

Our government is the enemy of freedom.


8 posted on 09/17/2012 6:13:56 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Terry Mross

No worries, John Boner is one the job! He’ll be sure to cry over it.


9 posted on 09/17/2012 6:14:49 PM PDT by VRWCarea51
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To: Terry Mross
Wouldn’t this “change in freedoms” require a constitutional amendment?

I think there's pretty much a general agreement among the DC elites that we don't need to follow the Constitution if it's too much of a hassle to do so.

10 posted on 09/17/2012 6:17:27 PM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: Perdogg
Obama’s DOJ Can’t Say Criticizing Religion Islam Will Remain Legal
11 posted on 09/17/2012 6:20:33 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: Perdogg

If that happens we need to change the wording!


12 posted on 09/17/2012 6:21:46 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (0bama's agenda¬óDivide and conquer. FREEDOM OR FREE STUFF- YOU GET ONE CHOICE, CHOOSE WISELY)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

IS IT TRUE that the guy in California who made that movie, “The Innocence of Muslims” is a $1 million dollar contributor to Obama?? I’m just asking, if anyone knows - not accusing. It was posted earlier on FR, but don’t know the truth of it . . .

and it seems that the ONLY religion it is OK with this regime to criticize, lie about, and villify is CHRISTIANITY. Christians have been cast as “far rightwing extremists” by this regime, “dangerous” ones at that.


13 posted on 09/17/2012 6:22:36 PM PDT by Twinkie (In whose eyes a vile person is contemned. Ps. 15:4a)
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To: Perdogg

I interviewed Trent Franks in AZ when he was running for his current seat a few years back. Following the interview, we stood in the parking lot BSing for more than half an hour while his ‘people’ were made to wait ;)

Franks is a good man. Unfortunately he doesn’t have the ‘star power’ to take him to higher office where he really belongs.


14 posted on 09/17/2012 6:24:55 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Perdogg

1a guaranteed rights prevent this.


15 posted on 09/17/2012 6:28:42 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Perdogg

It was a pretty easy question. The Obortion DOJ has no respect or regard for the constitution.


16 posted on 09/17/2012 6:28:56 PM PDT by boycott (CAL)
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To: Perdogg

Islam, the chosen SECRET religion of the pRres_ _ent,
is EXEMPT from ObamaCARE.


17 posted on 09/17/2012 6:33:21 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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To: Perdogg

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=2488

Also during his tenure with the Clinton DOJ, Perez volunteered for – and later (from 1995-2002) became a board member of – Casa de Maryland, a George Soros-funded advocacy group for illegal aliens.

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Last October, at George Washington University, there was a meeting between DOJ officials, including Perez, and Islamist advocates against free speech. Representatives from the Islamist side included Mohamed Magid, president of the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA).... The leader of the Islamist [side] was Sahar Aziz, an Egyptian-born American lawyer and Fellow at the Institute for Social Policy and Understanding, a Muslim advocacy group based in Michigan. At the meeting, the Islamists lobbied for: cutbacks in U.S. anti-terror training; limits on the power of terrorism investigators; changes in agent training manuals; [and] a legal declaration that criticism of Islam in the United States should be considered racial discrimination. Aziz said that the word “Muslim” has become “racialized” and, once American criticism of Islam was silenced, the effect would be to “take [federal] money away from local police departments and fusion centers who are spying on all of us.” ...


18 posted on 09/17/2012 6:33:50 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: Terry Mross
Wouldn’t this “change in freedoms” require a constitutional amendment?

Nah. Just say it has a 'substantial effect' on interstate commerce, and voila. At least, that's how it worked with the Tenth Amendment.

19 posted on 09/17/2012 6:36:14 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Terry Mross
“Wouldn't’t this “change in freedoms” require a constitutional amendment?”

I wish you people would stop thinking correctly! /s

All it takes is for Hussein to issue an Executive Order - that is the way he governs now and no one opposes him.

I expect him to do this if reelected. It will be a federal offense/automatic required prison time, to speak ill of Islam - I doubt he will get around to the other religions - just Islam, his religion. I'm going into hiding now.

20 posted on 09/17/2012 6:37:17 PM PDT by Marcella (Republican Conservatism is dead. PREPARE)
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To: Marcella

50% of the country will be looking for a hideout along with you.


21 posted on 09/17/2012 6:41:53 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: Perdogg

I think believers in freedom need to organize a world wide “Modck Mohammed” day. At some point we have to stop being fearful.


22 posted on 09/17/2012 6:45:56 PM PDT by wiseprince
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To: Perdogg

I think believers in freedom need to organize a world wide “Mock Mohammed” day. At some point we have to stop being fearful.


23 posted on 09/17/2012 6:46:08 PM PDT by wiseprince
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To: Fred Nerks; Marcella

#18 and #20, good points.
...i wouldn’t put ANYTHING past Obama,
after all he’s done.
legalizing immigrants. illegal bail-outs.
attacking Libya (War Powers Act violation).
etc.
...all he needs, is a good excuse,
a “Reichstag Fire”.
...like a video, that liberal Google
“refuses” to remove.


24 posted on 09/17/2012 6:47:53 PM PDT by Elendur (It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Eddie01

>> I’m not worried. The aclu will get out in front of this issue. /s

Sarcasm indeed. Those scumbags haven’t and will not do jack.


25 posted on 09/17/2012 6:48:03 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: Eddie01
"I’m expecting all republicans to stand up and fight. They will start tomorrow for sure."

Waiting for Godot, are we?

26 posted on 09/17/2012 6:49:20 PM PDT by stboz
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To: Perdogg

Fast and Furious of the First Amendment.


27 posted on 09/17/2012 6:51:48 PM PDT by bmwcyle (Corollary - Electing the same person over and over and expecting a different outcome is insanity)
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To: wiseprince

Now there is an idea. Invade their jihad boards and have at it. As one is kicked off, another comes in to “Mock mohammad” (may his pig head be cut off by allah forever and ever. Amen.) After all mohammad is most deserving of our furor.


28 posted on 09/17/2012 6:54:08 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: Terry Mross

Here are a couple of good articles on the subject:

http://www.nationaljournal.com/magazine/troubling-signals-on-free-speech-20091031

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/321039/obama-vs-first-amendment-andrew-c-mccarthy


29 posted on 09/17/2012 6:57:35 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Perdogg; wiseprince

Should we organize? There are lists of jihad sites or a little research is all it would take, plus volunteers.


30 posted on 09/17/2012 6:59:35 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: moviefan8
One cannot criticize Islam, but it will be okay to criticize Christanity.

A slippery slope. What's to stop the Obamasiah from next declaring it illegal to criticize Himself?

31 posted on 09/17/2012 7:03:09 PM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: no-to-illegals
Should we organize? There are lists of jihad sites or a little research is all it would take, plus volunteers.

Way way way way overdue - this clown should have been impeached two years ago.
32 posted on 09/17/2012 7:03:33 PM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Perdogg

Criticizing any religion EXCEPT Christianity will be made illegal.


33 posted on 09/17/2012 7:05:53 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

Don’t forget the Jewish religion. They are criticized right there with Christianity to exponential degrees.


34 posted on 09/17/2012 7:08:15 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: All

If anyone starts a ping list to begin action, sign me up. I do not have the skills (computer or organizational) to begin this, though sound like a good idea, if one is not afraid.


35 posted on 09/17/2012 7:11:51 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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What better day to begin an action of “mock mohammad” than on this day, Constitution Day.
36 posted on 09/17/2012 7:15:01 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: Perdogg

The fact they are even discussing such a topic is disgusting


37 posted on 09/17/2012 7:19:01 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: plain talk

Seriously, do they WANT a shooting war?


38 posted on 09/17/2012 7:19:42 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working fors)
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To: moviefan8

It is not just “OK” to criticize Christianity (or Judaism), but federal funds have paid for such via the National Endowment of the Arts (so-called).

Witness the NEA to the “artist” of the “Piss Christ”.

Now, one might esteem the NEA for tru artistic “edginess” we’re it to award a federal grant to an applicant who proposed to douse the Quran in whizz.

Not saying’, just saying’ ...


39 posted on 09/17/2012 7:29:44 PM PDT by dodger
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To: MrB

>>Seriously, do they WANT a shooting war?

Yes they do. A shooting war gives the UN the green light to “restore order”.


40 posted on 09/17/2012 7:35:10 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: moviefan8

Fire em all. We know this is about protecting Islam and that the left will be able to attack Christianity with immunity. And we wonder why our nation is in its current condition?


41 posted on 09/17/2012 7:38:42 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: jsanders2001
Fire em all.

No. Hang them all.

42 posted on 09/17/2012 7:54:11 PM PDT by Noumenon (¬ď...the other side wants everything in America to be free, except us.¬Ē Paul Ryan)
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To: BlatherNaut

It’s already against the law to say bad things against the president. Just ask some North Carolina teachers. Or teachers from any state.


43 posted on 09/17/2012 8:01:25 PM PDT by Terry Mross (The Clintons are extremely afraid of obama. Do they owe him their souls?)
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To: Perdogg

So, Fast and Furious v2.0?


44 posted on 09/17/2012 8:03:10 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: glorgau

Am liking that code name.


45 posted on 09/17/2012 8:14:26 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: Terry Mross

Only if we had the rule of law in this country. So... no, not here in Amerikkka.


46 posted on 09/17/2012 8:32:36 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: Perdogg

Everyone knows that Christianity will never be protected by these proposals.

Its bad enough they want to restrict free speech, its worse that they are being so obviously one sided on who gets free speech and who doesn’t


47 posted on 09/17/2012 10:08:50 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: VRWCarea51
No worries, John Boner is one the job! He’ll be sure to cry over it.

Although we need to keep the house, we need to get rid of this RINO.
48 posted on 09/17/2012 10:53:43 PM PDT by yorkiemom (Yorkie Moms 4 Ryan ; Romney + Ryan = Recovery)
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To: Terry Mross
Wouldn’t this “change in freedoms” require a constitutional amendment?

Come now, in Obama's America, there are no such things as Constitutional Amendments.

49 posted on 09/17/2012 11:57:29 PM PDT by wastedyears (The First Law of Heavy Metal: Not all metal is satanic.)
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To: Secret Agent Man; All

This Supreme Court is liable to classify it as Unprotected Hate Speech particularly if the religion is not the dominant one in the country meaning open season on Christianity would remain OK.


50 posted on 09/18/2012 12:15:40 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Election night is 50 days away.)
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