Skip to comments.(Florida) Family Faces ($250 per day) Fines for Hosting Bible Study
Posted on 09/18/2012 5:34:05 AM PDT by Zakeet
A Florida family is facing fines for hosting a weekly Bible study in their home an act that city officials argue violates zoning codes.
Shane and Marlen Roessiger, of Venice, Fla. are facing a $250 per day fine for hosting Friday night prayer and Bible study gatherings that are attended by as many as 10 people.
It is difficult to understand how it is illegal to have a prayer meeting on Friday night with a half dozen people but it is alright if I invited the same group on Monday evening to watch Monday night Football, Roessiger said.
The Roessigers are also facing a fine for putting a small sign in their front yard that reads: Need Prayer (941) 484-4915.
Its a weekly Bible study, said Brad Dacus, president of the Pacific Justice Institute. Its the same kind of Bible study that occurs in households across America.
Pam Johnson, a spokesperson for the city of Venice, sent a statement to Fox News defending their actions and noting that the cases against the Roessigers have been continued.
The Code Enforcement Board has continued both cases, although Mr. Roessiger was found guilty a few months ago of zoning violation (as it relates to land use), Johnson said. It has not been determined at this time if the use violation has been abated. No determination of guilt has been made for the sign issue because the case is continued.
Johnson confirmed that the two cases involve a code infraction regarding the use of a sign and a zoning infraction regarding using their home as a house of worship.
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Anti-Christian bigots are waging an unrelenting war against the Lord ... exactly as prophesied!
It sounds like this zoning violation stems from a sign they posted on the property. They could have had the meetings without problem other-wise.
Wow. Words fail...
They would arrest everyone holding an Open House to sell their home then.
The reason is trumped up. But they should hold it in a Panera Bread store and make everyone else listen to their lesson like we do. I bet they let them go back to the house.
Does the city ban other types of yard signs? Campaign signs, perhaps? I've seen those types of signs all over and can't imagine that anyone would be persecuted for putting one in their yard. In the USSR perhaps. Communist China, perhaps. But in the United States of America? I truly believe we're entering the end times. If not the biblical and times then the end times for this country.
Indeed, words fail me. Had to come up with a new tagline for this.
That’s unbelievable! He’s probably a Father to boot. What an awful person to have as a Father.
Just tell them it’s an obama fund raiser.
Silly people thought there was such a thing as private property in this country.
Of course putting words on a placard on land they bought with their own sweat, is a crime. When you see the word “prayer” posted in public, it’s a responsible citizen’s duty to call 911.
And now it’s a crime to gather together in a private home to worship. Well, that’s what all those billions spent on drones is for...when you see a group of people walking into a house with Bibles in hand, it’s a sure sign of a criminal organization that has to be neutralized before it becomes a major threat to society... /s
Probably any other public meeting signs in front of home residences.
What they do this for is they don't want a church opening in a public residence, or perhaps a school. They could remove the sign and meet in the-same place less formally. like the boy Scouts do.
If someone else is allowed to do this there with something other than a Christian church ,Lets say a mosque , then you have case in fact they could sue. . But I doubt they do.
The answer is really quite simple. The ruling class doesn't feel threatened by football. But they do feel threatened by the Bible.
in a sane world anyways
A Koran study would probably be allowed. A get-together of a dozen people should be not crime, no matter the book being studied.
I’ll admit that a sign marking a Bible Study is probably tacky, but no more so than a yard sale sign.
I’m not an overly irreligious person but I find that sign and the thought behind it, hideous.
Are you serious? Putting up a sign offering loving prayer, support & compassion to others is hideous?
You are cold.
How else are Shane and Marlene supposed to finance their trips to Nicaragua?
Preaching, healing, “laying on of hands” right next to your house on a regular basis. Who wouldn’t be up for that?
I think he meant the “kill Jesus” sign
oops - got it. I agree with that.
Not that sign! The sign posted in this thread.
Preaching, healing, laying on of hands right next to your house on a regular basis. Who wouldn'tt be up for that?
Is it anyone’s business if neighbors go on mission trips to Nicaragua or practice healing in Christianity in their lives? No it's not. Neighbors may choose to ignore them (not associate with them) because they are Christians, but most people don't give a crap what others think of them when it comes to worship or not worshiping God. Fortunately, we have the right to associate with who we want to associate with.(Except for the gaystopo and atheists - everyone must celebrate and associate with the slut and butt action lifestyle and not speak of God. :))
The golden rule still applies in a constitutional Republic: Treat others the way you would want to be treated. Everybody. The freedom of association makes it easy to do. People take the inventory of faults within neighbors better than they analyze their own faults these days. It's the pattern of liberalism - upside down and weird to oppress politically incorrect others. It's killing our freedoms and good will for one another.
I can imagine a commie Dem neighbor having a conniption fit because I held a series of large meetings here to launch and organize and appoint leaders for a Tea Party group. Fortunately, I only have two liberal neighbors and they are not litigious (”activist”); nitpicking zoning issues. They don't have anyone in power to listen to their oppressive zoning law schemes. But they would if they could.
They host Democrap election “meet the candidate” meetings in their homes. I don't bother them even though I could dream up some offense if I lived like I was a communist or nazi (democrap). I'm, culturally, an American-American so I would not dream of using my power to harm their freedom. I would not want that done to them. Even though they are totally icky. :)
meet in the-same place less formally. like the boy Scouts do.”””
When I was growing up- Boy Scouts——Girl Scouts-—4 H——Future Farmers of America (FFA) -—even cheerleading squads met in private homes in numbers larger than 10 on a VERY regular basis.
I find it hard to even begin to understand where that AMERICA disappeared to.
I was pointing out that Boy Scout meetings probably wouldn't have attracted attention unless you posted a permanent sign on your lawn “Boy Scout Troop XXX weekly Meeting here” with the day and time on it.
Another tip : get along with your neighbors so they dont complain about you.
I wonder what the parking situation is like there.
1) Massive immigration from 3rd world nations by people who have no understanding of a free Republic and economy.
2) Big Mommy gubment saves the day
Christians need to be good neighbors too.
This could go either way, depending.
Sucking up to your neighbors never hurts.
As a general rule, I’d phrase it different, but you’re right.
” I wonder what the parking situation is like there. “
That might well be the problem, even though 10 people is not that many. They could either carpool, or shoot the neighbor for complaining. Carpooling is probably better.
>> “Probably any other public meeting signs in front of home residences.
What they do this for is they don’t want a church opening in a public residence, or perhaps a school. They could remove the sign and meet in the-same place less formally. like the boy Scouts do.” <<
Sicko, show us the invisible ink in the first amendment that excludes signs from its protection.
“the free exercise thereof”
Missed that clause, huh?
Wow scurvey, you would make a GREAT jailhouse lawyer. Try doing your daily business on your front lawn (as opposed to in pings to me) and see how far your legal theory gets you.
IOW, you have nothing as all of us have already perceived.
You tyranny lovers, and Christ haters are getting to be a real drag.
Sounds like your Mom taught you that you are the center of the universe. I bet you cant imagine why you find your front lawn filled with dog poop every morning with that attitude.
Don't even try to turn the house next to me into your Mosque because I will be the first to call to complain.
We have your number Sicko, no surprise that you are leading the charge against Christ, and our founding values.
It wouldn’t surprise me if you were the neighbor that is giving this guy the grief.
We?? You mean that gang of suckers who swore that you-know-who was running and would beat Obama in a landslide two months from now?
Most of them have the common sense to behave themselves after that that fiasco.
We?? You better look behind you coward because the friends you were counting on took off.
I bet as a kid (???) you used to start fights and get whipped then cry that you were getting your Mom to fight for you.
Unlike you, I never started a fight in my life, but most of the turkeys that tried to start one with me seemed to become charter members of my fan club the next day.
You may wish to notice that yours is an extreme minority view on this thread. (you and the usual tyranny lovers)
So supportive and/or healing prayer and the thoughts behind them are “hideous?”
You need prayer!
Strike that comment, I see your response :o)
Really?? What are you polling the ‘we’ you referenced in last nights comments??? HA-HA
“ We have your number”
“....as all of us have already perceived”
And all of them agree with YOU. .
I don't configure my mind to repeat Baa-Baa like one of a flock of sheep to fit in with one group or another,
Unlike someone on this thread, wink-wink, I am capable of original thought,.
You’ve presented no evidence that you are capable of any thought.
To sickoflibs: “ Sicko, no surprise that you are leading the charge against Christ, and our founding values.”
Where do you get this from ?
” . They could remove the sign and meet in the-same place less formally. like the boy Scouts do.”
I guess this makes you an atheist : )
LOL, stuff like this is pretty amusing......at least he didnt accuse me of being the anti-Christ, YET.
Dont forget, ‘They all’ know what he is talking about.. “They all’ agree that he is right. That is what is really important.
From his comments Stephen.
From the positions that he is constantly taking on these threads.
Do you agree that having prayer meetings in your home is unreasonable behavior that justifies having your neighbor turn you in to the gestapo? I know you do not. There are only two posting on this thread that do.
The county zoning board Gestapo. HA
You try to buy the House next door to ME and turn it into your Mosque for your Islamic worship and I will make the phone call myself, so you best respect the law