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(from 2008 - graphic, disgusting) Sexual Terror: The Untold Stories of Beslan Jihad
islam watch ^ | 9-2012 (orig 2008) | Deborah Schurman-Kauflin

Posted on 09/18/2012 12:00:06 PM PDT by doug from upland

Sexual Terror: The Untold Stories of Beslan Jihad

by Deborah Schurman-Kauflin, Ph.D

18 Nov, 2008

From the days of Prophet Muhammad, sexual terror has been an integral part of Islamic Jihad. The siege of the Beslan School by Islamic Jihadis in 2004 was no exception as reveals Dr. Schurman-Kauflin. -- Editor, MA Khan

Excerpt from Chapter 1, “Disturbed: Terrorist Behavioral Profiles” (2008)

On September 1, 2004, terrorists stormed a school in Beslan, Russia, and perpetrated one of the most heinous terror attacks in history. Though many people may have heard of this attack, it is very likely that most do not know what really happened there. The reality is so dark that few dare speak of what went on.

There are predators in wait lurking everywhere searching for unsuspecting victims. If a person has a proclivity or a secret desire, that inclination can easily come out if an opportunity arises. And that is what happened at Beslan. The terrorists immediately killed the men because they wanted no resistance for their plans. Then, when they saw the helpless girls in front of them, the temptation became too much. Their perverse dreams came true.

Beslan was clearly a sexual homicide/sexual suicide. That is, the offenders wanted more than simple terrorism. Some of the terrorists at Beslan were hired guns who did not plan on dying that day. They had not thought things through and did not realize that the Russians would not let them out alive. Then, once they were inside, and the realization dawned on them, plans changed.

Things had deteriorated when the media reported that there were only 354 victims. Wanting to have a dramatic impact, the terrorists exploded with anger. There were 1200 victims, and the Russians were trying to down play the incident. The terrorists said they would have to eliminate victims to fit with what the media had reported. Their demeanor worsened, and they got really mean.

It was then that they began raping the girls. They wanted sex as they killed, and this is sexual homicide. A sex killer gets excited when he thinks about forcing himself inside an unwilling victim, but the rape itself does not produce the ultimate excitement. It is the rape followed by the killing that is arousing. This is what happened at Beslan.

One by one, females were targeted. The sex killers looked for the perfect victims, and after zeroing in, they grabbed and disrobed the little girls in the middle of the gym. There were muffled cries as the girls were humiliated in front of everyone. They were stripped, raped, and sodomized by several men. Not content to simply rape, the terrorists used their guns and other objects to penetrate the screaming victims while the other hostages were forced to watch. And the terrorists laughed. They laughed as they violated the children and made them bleed. What few people know is that some of the girls died as a result of being raped with objects. The internal damage was so severe that without immediate medical attention, the girls bled to death. Those who managed to survive required extensive reconstructive surgery and painful recoveries.

But raping the girls was not enough for the deviants who had entered the school. The terrorists beat the other children. In fact, beatings took place regularly, and as they pummeled the little ones, the terrorists smiled and laughed. It was said that they would strike a child and then watch the child cringe. When the youngsters recoiled, their captors laughed. This says the offenders enjoyed inflicting the suffering. They wanted their victims to suffer. Such behavior is sadistic. Bringing others pain brings the sadist pleasure. And the terrorists tortured the victims in many ways.

Along with causing paralyzing fear, the terrorists had an ally in the weather. It was extremely hot outside, but the school had no working air conditioner. As the heat raged, the hostages begged for water, and at first, some was given. Time crept on, and the terrorists became increasingly cruel. They drank in front of the hostages and mocked the children who were crying out for water. Things got so bad that the victims were forced to drink their own urine. In some cases, the hostages poured urine over one another in a feeble attempt to keep cool. Seeing the suffering enhanced the joy of the perpetrators. In a twisted, ghoulish game, the terrorists put water in front of the children who were desperately thirsty and told them if they reached for the water, they would be killed.

Still, this horror wasn’t enough for the hostage takers. Raping, beating, torturing, and mocking were just not evil enough. Thus, to further frighten the victims, one terrorist stated “we came here to die.” Russian Tagirovich Khuchbarov was called the “colonel.” When the children asked for water or to use the restroom, he simply stated “I’m not your uncle, I’m a terrorist … I came here to kill." Up until this point, the hostages most likely believed they could survive, but then…hearing these words…it meant they were to die too. This surely would have made the victims scream in their minds. If they cried out loud, they risked being beaten or shot.

As a crowd gathered outside the school, several terrorists goaded the townspeople. It was said that they “took delight” in egging the crowd on. They fired shots. They taunted. And again, they laughed. This psychopathic, sadistic behavior continued into the night as they ordered hostages to throw naked dead bodies out to the west yard. Yet, the Russian government did not want to negotiate with these offenders. Russian officials knew what they were dealing with: men intent on murder. However, in any hostage event, negotiations are necessary, but negotiations at Beslan were very difficult. When offered food, the terrorists refused because they feared poisoning. They had learned from Nord Ost and other terrorist standoffs. They would not make the same mistakes at Beslan.

Knowing that the elite Alpha and Vympel (Russia Special forces) would be called, the terrorists made it clear that if gas was used or electricity shut off, they would kill hostages immediately. The offenders had studied prior attacks and Russian counteroffensive techniques. So, they knew that Russia would stop at nothing to end the siege. With this knowledge, the terrorists had brought amphetamines with them to help stave off fatigue. This made them more wild and unpredictable. At one point, the terrorists allowed some hostages to leave. They told some mothers that they could get out with their babies and leave behind an older child or stay with both children. Those who left a child behind will certainly be tormented for the rest of their lives. At least one child who had been left behind survived the ordeal. One can only imagine that she could develop feelings of anger and maybe even hatred for the parent who abandoned her with psychopathic sexual sadists.

Russian Special Forces stormed the school using various techniques. Tanks were fired. Guns were fired. There were explosions. Alpha and Vympel members risked their lives to go into the school to save the children. In the end, nothing but bloodshed was achieved that day at Beslan. There were 330 people who died. Of those, 186 were the children. Blame has been tossed back and forth between the Russian government and the terrorists.

Critics have argued that evidence points to the fact that several of the terror attackers had been in Russian police custody prior to the attack. There were questions as to how these people managed to get out of jail to commit the atrocity, casting suspicion on the government itself. Conspiracy theories follow most big terror attacks. But there is no doubt that hostilities between the terrorists and the Russian government were not quieted. In fact, due to the horrific ending, anger has grown. In the end, this wretched act accomplished nothing but mass murder. So why bother with such attacks? Who are these people ready to lay down their lives for their cause?

What makes them tick?


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: beslan; beslanrussia; islam; jihad; massacre; muslims; obama; russia; school; schools; schoolviolence; sexualterror; wot
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This is what the world faces from the religion of peace.
1 posted on 09/18/2012 12:00:19 PM PDT by doug from upland
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2 posted on 09/18/2012 12:03:48 PM PDT by bigheadfred (evry day i'm shufflin')
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To: doug from upland

It’s about 1400 years overdue, but it’s high time for civilization to wipe this mind cancer from the face of the earth. By any means necessary.


3 posted on 09/18/2012 12:05:19 PM PDT by MarineDad
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To: doug from upland

The socialist democrats are on the side of the radical muslims and afraid to offend them. When in fact we should seek them out and destroy them.


4 posted on 09/18/2012 12:06:43 PM PDT by spawn44 (MOO)
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To: doug from upland

I have never read or heard of a more bestial people. I can’t think of better justification to utterly wipe out Islam.


5 posted on 09/18/2012 12:09:13 PM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: doug from upland

most Westerners, don’t know the extent of the rape, etc.
same with the Mumbai attacks (especially the Jewish couple.)
or even what was done to the Munich victims.
...
but the media is quick to report all the “gory details”,
of Abu Garaib!


6 posted on 09/18/2012 12:10:14 PM PDT by Elendur (It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: doug from upland

they show few pictures of Ambassador Stevens...

They don’t say what horror the others went through or show their bodies.

Mitt Romney is not the only candidate in the race.

video of burning U.S. Embassies and of the beaten, violated corpses of American diplomats being dragged through the streets

belongs to the other candidate.


7 posted on 09/18/2012 12:11:12 PM PDT by Freddd (No PA Engineers)
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To: MarineDad

I will never forget the siege at that school. Those children are marred for life. Unimaginable terror.


8 posted on 09/18/2012 12:11:34 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: doug from upland

bttt


9 posted on 09/18/2012 12:12:51 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: doug from upland

Muslimes are admonished to behave as the Prophet Mohammed did.

Mohammed raped Aisha when she was 9 years old.

Mohammed was a cold-blooded murderer and terrorist.

So the account from Beslan is just Muslims living up to their Prophet’s behavior, as required.


10 posted on 09/18/2012 12:13:02 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (You didn't build that. The private sector is doing fine. We tried our plan and it worked.)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
Same here. I've often thought that as terrorist attacks go, it was even worse than 9/11, since it was abundantly clear at Belsan that completely innocent children were targeted.
Islam and its mindless murdering minions cannot be eradicated fast enough or in great enough numbers to satisfy me.
I positively, thoroughly LOATHE that filthy cult.
11 posted on 09/18/2012 12:14:51 PM PDT by MarineDad
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To: doug from upland
I couldn't get through all of this, but I thank you for posting. These are animals.

Not all Muslims are animals, but why aren't they as outraged as we are by the behavior of Islamists. I haven't heard any condemnation of the Islamists by the top American Muslim groups.

But I will never refer to the Muslim religion as the religion of peace.

12 posted on 09/18/2012 12:16:40 PM PDT by FR_addict
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To: doug from upland
What worries me most is this type of scenario. I remember before 911 those who said it cannot happen here. I see, in this the present, those who have a much worse mindset. May this never happen to American fathers and mothers again. For can think of a time it has, recently. Did we ever find out this person perpetrating the attack in Virginia was not islamic? I never heard.
13 posted on 09/18/2012 12:16:56 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: doug from upland

It is time...

14 posted on 09/18/2012 12:21:44 PM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: doug from upland

Not one mention in that entire article of Islam, Muslims, or jihad. Not one mention of Chechens, either.

We know that Islam commands Muslims to kill “infidels” wherever they find them and that jihadis who kill are promised Islamic paradise. This wicked mission in the name of a gutter religion was carried out in ultimate horror in Beslan.

Why the sanitizing?


15 posted on 09/18/2012 12:24:19 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("Free speech is more important than Islam.")
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To: All

Note, may not be recalling all completely correct. It may not have been Virginia, and there may have been more than one perp. School children (teenagers) were the target in the attack. I would provide a link but have been unsuccessful thus far. Asking for patience.


16 posted on 09/18/2012 12:24:40 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: MarineDad

The Russian authorities were in a lose/lose situation. I vaguely recall something about the Russians ending a terrorist hostage taking in a theater by contaminating the air supply with anesthetics to render all inside unconscious.. It worked successfully although one man who went unconscious never regained consciousness. Perhaps they could’ve done something similar at the school but I do recall big windows in the front and the terrorist in the middle of the gym with a bomb at the ready.


17 posted on 09/18/2012 12:25:28 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: doug from upland

18 posted on 09/18/2012 12:25:57 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: doug from upland

All of the documentaries I have seen/read say they took their clothes off because it was hot


19 posted on 09/18/2012 12:26:44 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: doug from upland

20 posted on 09/18/2012 12:27:10 PM PDT by Envisioning (Call me a racist........, one more time..........)
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To: doug from upland

I’m shocked that after Breslan, Putin didn’t embark on a program to wipe out every muzzie in Russia!


21 posted on 09/18/2012 12:28:03 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty ("Get that evil, foreign, muslim, usurping bastard out of MY White House!" FUBO GTFO!)
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To: DTogo

When the imams’, mullahs’, and ayatollahs’ shrunken heads sell for 3/$10 at all Middle Eastern curio shops, then we will once again know peace.


22 posted on 09/18/2012 12:28:21 PM PDT by MarineDad
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To: doug from upland

That is one of the sickest, saddest, and most frightening things I have ever read.


23 posted on 09/18/2012 12:28:34 PM PDT by KansasGirl ("If you have a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen."--B. Hussein Obama)
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To: DTogo

This Gramma agrees with you.


24 posted on 09/18/2012 12:30:49 PM PDT by Bradís Gramma (PRAY for this country like your life depends on it......because it DOES!)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
I will never forget the siege at that school.

Agree. One of the most horrific events I've heard of. The U.S. media sanitized much of it.

25 posted on 09/18/2012 12:30:50 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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To: TexasRepublic

agreed. they are bestial even to their own kind:
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Iranian Women Prisoners Detail Torture: ‘Death Was Like a Desire’
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2738215/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2738215/posts?page=8#8


26 posted on 09/18/2012 12:31:01 PM PDT by Elendur (It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: MarineDad
Do you really think the WEst has the committment to defeat,..really defeat these muslims. If you do, I do not see it. I see the muslims infiltrating every western country who lives mostly by a code of western values. They will breed enough muslims to outvote western democracies and then will impose Sharia. It is already happening. The Western governments are trying to figure out how to accommodate these monsters. Look at Obama and Clinton...just this last week. Our ambassador was murdered and our Representatives choose to apologize to the killers and attempt fascist maneuvers to strip an American citizen of first amendment rights. In other words WE are the problem, not the muslim terrorist.

In this conflict of civilization and barbarism I fear we have civilized ourselves out of fighting for truth, justice and the American way. In this conflict there must be a winner. They will fight for the next fifty years. Our leadership is confused about this. Right now, we have a unilateral advantage which could procure a victory. Soon they will have nuclear weapons, but without the impediment of conscience to reflect on the magnatude of violence that will inflict. We rage at their primal joy of killing innocence, but we have not arrived at the obvious answer. There must be a winner and there must be one side subjugated. They are outbreeding the west. They will have plenty of reinforcements. We remain in confusion about the nature of this conflict, and until we see it clearly the West has no chance to prevail. But, there will be a winner. Who that will be remains a huge question, not because we cannot prevail, but because we want to civilize those who cannot be civilized. These barbarians will never stop until they are utterly brought into submission, and the way I see it today, we do not have the stomach to do what is necessary to protect our way of life.

27 posted on 09/18/2012 12:31:14 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter (<)
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To: doug from upland

Google.com images. ‘beslan’


28 posted on 09/18/2012 12:31:29 PM PDT by Daaave ('We Can Remember It for You Wholesale')
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To: MarineDad
Do you really think the WEst has the committment to defeat,..really defeat these muslims. If you do, I do not see it. I see the muslims infiltrating every western country who lives mostly by a code of western values. They will breed enough muslims to outvote western democracies and then will impose Sharia. It is already happening. The Western governments are trying to figure out how to accommodate these monsters. Look at Obama and Clinton...just this last week. Our ambassador was murdered and our Representatives choose to apologize to the killers and attempt fascist maneuvers to strip an American citizen of first amendment rights. In other words WE are the problem, not the muslim terrorist.

In this conflict of civilization and barbarism I fear we have civilized ourselves out of fighting for truth, justice and the American way. In this conflict there must be a winner. They will fight for the next fifty years. Our leadership is confused about this. Right now, we have a unilateral advantage which could procure a victory. Soon they will have nuclear weapons, but without the impediment of conscience to reflect on the magnatude of violence that will inflict. We rage at their primal joy of killing innocence, but we have not arrived at the obvious answer. There must be a winner and there must be one side subjugated. They are outbreeding the west. They will have plenty of reinforcements. We remain in confusion about the nature of this conflict, and until we see it clearly the West has no chance to prevail. But, there will be a winner. Who that will be remains a huge question, not because we cannot prevail, but because we want to civilize those who cannot be civilized. These barbarians will never stop until they are utterly brought into submission, and the way I see it today, we do not have the stomach to do what is necessary to protect our way of life.

29 posted on 09/18/2012 12:31:34 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter (<)
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To: Freddd

“they show few pictures of Ambassador Stevens...

They don’t say what horror the others went through or show their bodies.”

Exactly.

Also they don’t show Ambassador Stevens body when he arrived at the hospital. What condition was his body in after the crowd got him.


30 posted on 09/18/2012 12:31:52 PM PDT by FR_addict
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To: doug from upland
What makes them tick?

Simply, they are possessed by demons.

31 posted on 09/18/2012 12:31:58 PM PDT by Obadiah (The Hunger Games -- Obama's vision for America)
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To: All

Have not yet found what am looking for, though there is this ... http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/


32 posted on 09/18/2012 12:37:40 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: Texas Songwriter
Good point. Until such time that the line separating what we MUST do and what we are WILLING to do is obliterated, we're simply doomed to suffer whatever comes down the pike from these vermin.
But here's the rub: The Muzz are a direct threat to not only the U.S. and its allies, but to nations like Russia and China, too. And who - besides the whackjobs in Iran, of course - benefits from Iran getting a bomb? And who is in grave danger by their so doing, in addition to Israel.
High time to work together with other nations, even if we have to hold our nose to do so, in order to address this cancer which threatens us all. And put NOTHING "off the table" in terms of the means with which to address this problem.
Question: How has the extinction of the DoDo bird negatively impacted our lives today? In much the same way, what exactly would the world "lose" if cities like Mecca suddenly met with, ahem, "misfortune?" Are there any world-class universities, hospitals, research labs, etc. in these places?
Just something to ponder...
33 posted on 09/18/2012 12:40:20 PM PDT by MarineDad
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“Also they don’t show Ambassador Stevens body when he arrived at the hospital. What condition was his body in after the crowd got him.”

Didn’t matter. HusseinCo needed those remains brought ASAP to his next campaign speech.


34 posted on 09/18/2012 12:41:38 PM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: doug from upland

Islam has been an insane rape and murder cult since Mad Mo crawled from the bat cave and barked at the moon.


35 posted on 09/18/2012 12:44:59 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: doug from upland

Their lucky I’m not putin. I would have use chemical weapons for all of Chechnya. Nuke would be to pleasant for this act.


36 posted on 09/18/2012 12:51:26 PM PDT by Morris70
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To: self

ping


37 posted on 09/18/2012 12:54:27 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: GeronL

Stripped because they were hot? I’ve been hot before, and never had the urge to strip naked - in front of friends. The urge to strip would be even less in front of my enemies.


38 posted on 09/18/2012 12:55:15 PM PDT by 21twelve (So I [God] gave them over to their stubborn hearts to follow their own devices. Psalm 81:12)
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To: doug from upland; All
After further searching internet, I must withdraw my comments made at #13 and #16. The posts may not come down, though if had my way the posts of #13 and #16 would be removed based upon no finding of info. Also note, I do not wish to bother a mod. The mods are too busy for this type of trivia (imho).
39 posted on 09/18/2012 12:55:27 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: MarineDad

Mecca and Medina will never be assaulted by the west. We are signatories to the United Nations. Our leadership fear violating international law which would lead the Haag. Hell, Bush had to return from a trip because he found out, in midair, that he was going to be arrested when his aircraft set down. Unless we get around this impediment we will never, ever feel we can do what needs to be done. On the other hand, if al Queda is handed a nuclear device, they will detonate it in the most populace area in the west. It is coming at us with precious little resistance. The days of Dresden will never return. Once the devastation of millions in a western city, the light bulb will begin to flicker...that is what we should have done years prior. But, not until the unthinkable is done to us in the west. When Iran gets the bomb, Egypt will say it must have the bomb. Other arab states will feel they need to obtain a nuclear device. When those leaders are pressed by the threat to losing their priviledged positions by radicals, they will use that tool. It is a horror too great to consider. This should be dealt with NOW before this happens. But there is nothing but cowardice in the Halls of Congress and the White House. I swear, I do not see a good outcome to this unless the people of this country demand it. But we are too busy watching television pretending that is reality.


40 posted on 09/18/2012 12:56:32 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter (<)
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To: doug from upland; GeronL

I’m not 100% of the rapes. Numerous men/women/children survivors in the court proceedings said they saw no rapes nor heard of anyone getting raped.


41 posted on 09/18/2012 12:57:34 PM PDT by trailhkr1
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To: Travis McGee

Now THAT’S a video I’d love to see!


42 posted on 09/18/2012 12:58:20 PM PDT by MarineDad
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To: FR_addict

In my humble opinion, the only muslims who are not animals are those who don’t practice their ‘religion’.


43 posted on 09/18/2012 12:59:47 PM PDT by patriotsblood
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To: Texas Songwriter; wiseprince
unless the people of this country demand it

It would require we take a page out of the moslems rage book, and have a Mock Mohammad day and take it worldwide. I cannot take credit for this idea. Am pinging wiseprince.

44 posted on 09/18/2012 1:01:02 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: Texas Songwriter

No we do not have the committment to defeat any enemy that uses asymetrical warfare against us. The reason for that is simple, when your enemy uses the cover of civilians to attack you, the only proven military response is to remove all civilian life from the area in question. Our culture has given that a naughty name called genocide and apparently we would prefer to have our own children suffer than be accused of it.

Right this very moment, if the people of this country united to demand the removal of unlawful foreign invaders on our own land we would be accused of genocide by the previous nominee of the GOP on CNN inside of 5 minutes!


45 posted on 09/18/2012 1:01:35 PM PDT by The Toll
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To: Texas Songwriter; MarineDad

I posted this on another website yesterday, but it fits here in a modified form.

It appears to me that some Egyptian Christians who do understand Islam very well might be behind the ludicrous Mohammed “video trailer” for valid psychological warfare purposes. Note that this Ann Barnhardt video from about a year ago has had new Arabic subtitles added by a group calling itself “LoveJesusforEgypt.” It has now been re-released on LiveLeak, and it is getting responses from Muslims, so it will probably be in the news shortly.

Both the “Innocence of Muslims” video and Barnhardt’s bacon Koran video indicate to me that Islam’s weaknesses are finally being exploited by those who understand them. Islam has a brittle glass jaw hidden behind its very effective smokescreen of fear and terror. Muslims cannot engage in rational debate, have no capacity for self-examination, and no sense of humor. In fact, these qualities are mortal sins within Islam. These two videos (and more that will follow) exploit the subrational Islamic thought processes, and cause them to lash out with reflexive Pavlovian anger, exposing the true nature of the insane death cult to those in the West who are still unaware of it, having been brainwashed by political correctness.

These videos are merely opening shots in a counter-jihad psy-ops war that will be fought by ordinary citizens, who also understand perfectly well by now that their elected leaders would rather submit than fight back effectively against the real enemy, which is Islam itself, and not some fuzzy and undefined “extremists” within “the religion of peace.”

This was a response from a reader:

“Muslim refusal to engage in rational debate, engage in self-examination, or permit “humorous” attacks on their religion are not weaknesses. They are mighty strengths! They are not Islam’s “brittle glass jaw”; they are its bulging biceps! These attributes generate fear in their enemies, and cause their enemies to seek to avoid provoking Muslims and to appease Muslims when they are angry.”

And my answer to him:

I agree that these attributes of Islam have proven to be a great advantage to it as a war religion for 1,400 years. However, we are now seeing before our eyes a paradigm shift that may bring about the end of Islam in the present generation. Samuel Huntington spoke of Islam’s “bloody borders,” but until the modern era, the true scope of the horror was only realized by the victims living on those borders who were under constant attack (the ultimately unsuccessful and now condemned counter-jihad we call the Crusades being the notable exception). Five hundred or a thousand miles from Islam’s bloody borders, it was always difficult to make people understand the existential threat Islam presented to all non-Muslim societies.

After its early rampant “break out” period, when seen in the context of each generation, Islam appeared to be merely biting off one more small slice of territory at a time. And on it marched, generation after generation, always moving forward, rarely being pushed back, impervious to self-examination or reformation, as deadly in our modern times as it was at the beginning.

That is changing now, because today the entire world sees Islam’s true face revealed when Muslims go into these insane rages after perceived insults to Mohammed. Their ingrained lack of introspection means that Muslims can easily be provoked into going beyond the stealth-mode they normally follow beyond Islam’s bloody borders, waking up the world to the existential threat Islam poses to all non-Muslim societies. Down the centuries, the West has often had appeasers and accommodationists as leaders, men who were willing to cut short-term local deals that over time always led to incremental Islamic advances. And these weak Western leaders were the only men who mattered, era by era. Today, as a contrast, average citizens around the world are beginning to understand how to push Islam’s automatic rage buttons, and this changes the former equation in a fundamental way. As you mentioned, videos released by lone, non-state actors at the right time could be used to torpedo the next sell-out by Western appeasers, such as over the inclusion of Turkey in the EU.

Another fundamental difference today from prior centuries is that millions of people understand that Islam has another tremendous weakness, another glass jaw, and that is their worship of the black moon rock in Mecca as Islam’s literal god-head. This black rock enshrined in the corner of the Kaaba is essential to Islam in a way that nothing in Judaism or Christianity is. The Cross lives in the hearts of Christians, and Christianity would not be destroyed if Jerusalem or Rome were destroyed. But that physical black rock in Mecca is the “hard drive” of Islam. Muslims believe that it contains all of the sins of all of the observant followers of the Prophet since the time of Mohammed, as sort of an Islamic Doomsday Book. Two of the Five Pillars of Islam involve the physical worship of that black moon rock. One is the Hajj to Mecca where pilgrims walk in a circle around the rock, and the other is the five-time daily prayer performed in its direction. (The other three pillars are ephemeral: the Shahada conversion prayer, the tithe, and observing Ramadan.) A religion that is impervious to change or self-examination (which James P says are strengths) cannot suddenly be reduced to The Three Pillars of Islam after 1,400 unbroken years as the Five Pillars of Islam.

In ancient Islamic history, the black moon rock was once stolen by a competing tribe, but after a brief time it was “found.” Islam carried on because nobody outside of a very small circle of imams even knew the rock was missing before it was replaced. But if Mecca was suddenly turned into a giant crater, there would be no way to conceal the fact from the world at large, including every Muslim. Today, observant Muslims believe that if every infidel nation fired every rocket and bomb at Mecca, Allah would turn them back or stop them in mid-flight. It is impossible for observant Muslims to believe that the Infidels could destroy the Kaaba, which is literally the physical manifestation on earth of their “greatest God.”

The Crusaders were only able to retake Jerusalem for a short time, and never got close to taking Mecca (assuming that they even understood its importance to Islam and had some notion of taking it). It was not within their power to threaten this source of Islam’s power and mystique, even if they had desired to do so. In all eras before modern mass communications, even if a Crusader “commando team” had made it to Mecca, it would not have changed anything, because the leading Muslim clerics would have replaced the black rock and rebuilt the Kaaba, and nobody would have ever known, in the same way that nobody at the time knew that the black rock had once been stolen and carried off.

Today, the entire world would know in the same hour that Mecca had been destroyed. This would destroy Islam as surely as the Aztec and Inca religions and empires were destroyed when the Spanish conquistadors captured and executed the “living Gods” at the center of the Aztec and Inca belief systems. If there is no Mecca, there is no Islam. There can be no Islam with three instead of five pillars, the two physical pillars having been destroyed by the Gods of the Infidels. “Allahu Akbar” means “our God is greatest.” This cannot be so if the Infidel God destroys the physical god-head of Islam, which is the black moon rock at the Kaaba in Mecca.

I have no expectation that any American president would order the destruction of Mecca, even if American cities had been destroyed with nuclear bombs sent from a Muslim country with a clear return address. However, not all nations are as hamstrung by self-doubt and political correctness as we are. Russia, India, and Israel, I am sure, have Mecca on their target list. If Moscow, New Delhi, or Tel Aviv were destroyed by an Islamic bomb, I believe that Mecca would be wiped off the planet Earth the same day, even the same hour.

And that would spell the end of Islam, after its unparalleled 1,400-year reign of terror.

No Mecca, no Islam, as long as the world witnesses Mecca’s physical annihilation. There will follow a period of madness, with many Muslims committing mass suicide and mass terror, but more of them will become atheists or convert to Christianity (“the stronger horse”). In all cases, Islam as we know it will be finished. After fourteen centuries, the steady mantra “Our God is greatest” cannot become “We used to believe that our God was the greatest, but it was proven to be weaker, if not a fraud.” The glass jaw of Islam, its inability to self-examine or reform in any way, will prove to be its Achilles’ heel. The 1,400-year run of murder and madness will at last come to an end. After sixty generations, we may be the one to witness its ultimate destruction and collapse.

God willing.


46 posted on 09/18/2012 1:08:27 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: The Toll

I agree. So the ultimate answer, for now, if not changed, is unilateral surrender to these animals. But I would ask is it more charitable to give up your own children to be brutalized and turned muslim or to kill those who will kill our own offspring. If the rules are brutality, then we can bring more brutality now. That window will close in a few months or years, and by default we will have been defeated. That is unless reality is embraced and we take steps, brutal steps, to defeat these animals.


47 posted on 09/18/2012 1:10:56 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter (<)
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To: trailhkr1

I never sad anything about 100% of rapes, I remember a story about a little slave girl abused by Muslim masters. Common there and because the President of the country offered to pay off the parents to drop the complaint.

I am not sure if it was Malaysia or Indonesia


48 posted on 09/18/2012 1:14:37 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: doug from upland

To be read and reread by all those who believe there is no Satan.


49 posted on 09/18/2012 1:21:44 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: doug from upland

Not to defend these guys because what they did was truly evil and they deserve worse than death for it but what they did is not unique to the Muslim world. Look at even recent history of WWII and you’ll see far worse was done by both the Germans and the Japanese on a scale that makes Beslan look like a ride in the park. This is just yet another example of humanity doing what humanity naturally does when freed of any restraints. Look at any nations history and you’ll find that they have done this and worse, including the US, Shermans march through the south is one good example, what the Mormon’s did in Utah to a wagon train going through their territory, the trail of tears, Waco the list goes on.


50 posted on 09/18/2012 1:25:02 PM PDT by trapped_in_LA
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