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HCSO: Man shot to death after apparent road rage incident(TX)
abclocal.go.com ^ | 17 September, 2012 | Jessica Willey

Posted on 09/18/2012 3:26:34 PM PDT by marktwain

HOUSTON (KTRK) -- A woman says she shot and killed a man Monday because she was afraid for her life, but an eyewitness is telling a much different story.

The deadly encounter began as a simple fender bender accident on FM 1960 near Perry Road. What happened next depends on who you ask.

There were two vehicles, two drivers; both on their way to work Monday morning. But now only one only is alive to tell her story.

(Excerpt) Read more at abclocal.go.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: banglist; car; ccw; tx
This will go to a grand jury, as it should.
1 posted on 09/18/2012 3:26:40 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Zombie commuters.


2 posted on 09/18/2012 3:33:23 PM PDT by familyop ("Wanna cigarette? You're never too young to start." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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To: marktwain

Agreed. The stories are just too different in substance to not allow a GJ hear all sides. Maybe more witnesses will come forward.


3 posted on 09/18/2012 3:34:06 PM PDT by Ron H. (Ahh, how's that multi-culturism thing working out for you these days?!)
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To: marktwain

Refresh my memory. Where does FM1960 go? Deos it cut through Ft. Bend Co?


4 posted on 09/18/2012 3:41:38 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic (Joe Biden is reported to be seeking asylum in a foreign country so he does not have to debate Ryan.)
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To: marktwain

Yep


5 posted on 09/18/2012 3:41:57 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: marktwain
"It ricocheted off the car came towards me and whizzed right by me," said the witness. He says he was 15 feet from where the man in his early 20s was shot to death. According to Harris County homicide investigators, a minor accident spilled over into the gas station parking lot. The 23-year-old woman behind the wheel of a silver sedan told them the young man walked up to her car and was yelling and beating on her window. He grabbed for her door and she grabbed her gun and fired.

If she was shooting wild near a gas station and nearly hitting a third party figure, she was dangerous to all involved.

6 posted on 09/18/2012 3:42:34 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Obama likes to claim credit for getting Osama. Why hasn't he tried Khalid Sheikh Mohammed yet?)
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To: marktwain

Press covered up the basic who what when where why.

WHICH car had been hit?

Was there a hit and run involved?

Was this an effort to exchange information?

Had one driver refused to yield right of way instead hitting the gas and the horn at the other driver?


7 posted on 09/18/2012 3:44:35 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Obama likes to claim credit for getting Osama. Why hasn't he tried Khalid Sheikh Mohammed yet?)
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To: a fool in paradise

A bullet trajectory could easily be changed going through a car window


8 posted on 09/18/2012 3:45:40 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: marktwain

If she HAD deliberately hit his vehicle refusing to yield, then I’d say she was using her car as a weapon which itself is deadly force.


9 posted on 09/18/2012 3:45:53 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Obama likes to claim credit for getting Osama. Why hasn't he tried Khalid Sheikh Mohammed yet?)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

FM1960 runs between HWY 290 and past I-45 east. West of 290 it becomes Hwy 6 which does run down to Fort Bend County.


10 posted on 09/18/2012 3:50:26 PM PDT by Texas56
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To: marktwain

Even if her story is the absolute truth, I don’t think it would justify deadly force. Someone banging on your window and yelling at you after an accident is most likely trying to get you to roll the window down or exit the vehicle to talk about the accident and exchange information, maybe to just vent and yell at you, but not very likely trying to cause you physical harm.


11 posted on 09/18/2012 3:59:07 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

No report about the race of the players involved, but the “Leticia Quinones is her attorney.” caught my eye.

If she’s one of Holder’s people, she’ll get off.

Just me being me.


12 posted on 09/18/2012 4:07:13 PM PDT by ConradofMontferrat (According to mudslimz, my handle is a Hate Crime. I just Hope they don't like it.)
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To: Boogieman

The young lady indicated in her version that the other driver grabbed her door handle.


13 posted on 09/18/2012 4:07:51 PM PDT by moovova
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To: moovova
The young lady indicated in her version that the other driver grabbed her door handle.

If they find the guy's prints on the door handle...

14 posted on 09/18/2012 4:10:58 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Boogieman
Even if her story is the absolute truth, I don’t think it would justify deadly force. Someone banging on your window and yelling at you after an accident is most likely trying to get you to roll the window down or exit the vehicle to talk about the accident and exchange information, maybe to just vent and yell at you, but not very likely trying to cause you physical harm.

I disagree. Someone banging on you're window and yelling at you is initiating trouble. I don't believe that in itself calls for deadly force but I'm not taking a position on this without more facts. I thought earlier reports said he broke the window. If the guy was pounding on her driver window in a threatening manner, what she should have done was put it in reverse, turned the wheel hard right and floored it.

15 posted on 09/18/2012 4:12:13 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: marktwain
White victim, black perp, no hate crime possible.
16 posted on 09/18/2012 4:14:08 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: ConradofMontferrat
No report about the race of the players involved, but the “Leticia Quinones is her attorney.” caught my eye.

I don't know if this is the correct Leticia Quinones (how many of them can there be?), but if so at least the attorney appears to be not guilty of any crime.


17 posted on 09/18/2012 4:24:32 PM PDT by KevinB (We'll stop treating Obama like a dog when he stops treating us like a fire hydrant - Fred Grandy)
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To: Boogieman

Nowadays I wouldn’t count on it.


18 posted on 09/18/2012 4:42:44 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Boogieman

You may think banging on my window is OK.

Please don’t try it, because then I’ll have to replace my window because it has a bullet hole in it.


19 posted on 09/18/2012 4:44:10 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Liberals, at their core, are aggressive & dangerous to everyone around them,)
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To: Texas56

That’s what I thought. I used to live in Quail Valley years ago and was editor of the Ft. Bend Star newspaper. I remember another horrendous accident on FM1960 on the first day of school back in 1981.

A nurse (I think) passed a stopped school bus on her wway to work in the Houston Med Center and struck a 6 year old child crossing the road while holding her big sister’s hand. She dragged that child nearly a mile before she stopped.

Due to my front page editorial and the fuss that I and others made, Ft. Bend School District made major changes in their bus policy so that children did not have to cross that highway. I still have a copy of that issue somewhere.


20 posted on 09/18/2012 4:48:47 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic (Joe Biden is reported to be seeking asylum in a foreign country so he does not have to debate Ryan.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

http://goo.gl/maps/WXygd


21 posted on 09/18/2012 4:51:11 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

They call it Cypress Creek Parkway now. Don’t ask me why.


22 posted on 09/18/2012 4:55:12 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The woman doing the shooting is black. I think the dead guy may be hispanic. (Reverse Trayvon)


23 posted on 09/18/2012 4:57:09 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: smokingfrog

Is there a subdivision out there called Cypress Creek? I moved away in 1982, and everything has changed so much that I doubt that I could find my way around.


24 posted on 09/18/2012 4:57:32 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic (Joe Biden is reported to be seeking asylum in a foreign country so he does not have to debate Ryan.)
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To: Zhang Fei
If they find the guy's prints on the door handle...

That's the $64,000 question.

25 posted on 09/18/2012 4:59:46 PM PDT by moovova
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To: ConradofMontferrat
If she’s one of Holder’s people

She is.
26 posted on 09/18/2012 5:07:49 PM PDT by TexanByBirth (Free Republic: where they may agree with the message, but they love to shoot the messenger!)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Is there a subdivision out there called Cypress Creek?

There are several subdivisions with Cypress Creek in the name.

You may be thinking of Cypress Creek Manor, which is near FM1960 and Stuebner-Airline.

27 posted on 09/18/2012 5:13:24 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Balding_Eagle

I’m not saying I would do such a thing, just that it’s not logical to assume that such an act is a threat to your life. That defense just won’t hold up, unless there is a lot more evidence that we aren’t hearing.


28 posted on 09/18/2012 6:12:24 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: moovova

Yes, I saw that. If he did, that makes it a potentially more threatening situation, but I still can’t see how that equates to imminent threat of death, especially since her doors were apparently locked, her vehicle operational, and she was in a public place.


29 posted on 09/18/2012 6:14:53 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: paul51

Yes, sure, the guy could have been angry enough over the accident that he wanted to start some trouble. Every situation is different, and not being there, or seeing a video, we can’t know. I’m just saying, in general, it would be pretty rare for someone, in this situation, post auto accident, to just immediately escalate to murder against the other party. Swearing, sure, maybe even yelling or doing something aggressive like that, but pulling someone out of the vehicle to kill them in a public place? I don’t think that’s a reasonable assumption under most circumstances like the ones described.


30 posted on 09/18/2012 6:22:31 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: smokingfrog

The witness talking to the press and repeating the phrase “I want it to be fair” set off my PC tainting alarm.


31 posted on 09/18/2012 6:41:28 PM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again")
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To: Boogieman

The gas station should have some video, especially in Harris (Pronounced Hair-ass) County.


32 posted on 09/18/2012 6:45:07 PM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again")
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To: Boogieman

Us old guys aren’t up to a fight, we’re more likely to make sure we aren’t put in a position to be killed and act accordingly.

Depending on the situation, the type of knock etc, a lot of us could consider that knock to be a direct and immeadiate threat to our lives.


33 posted on 09/18/2012 7:04:14 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Liberals, at their core, are aggressive & dangerous to everyone around them,)
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