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Prince Harry got extra protection after Taliban attack on his base in Afghanistan
The New York Daily News ^ | Tuesday, September 18, 2012, 8:42 AM

Posted on 09/18/2012 5:06:37 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican

Prince Harry at Camp Bastion, Afghanistan on September 7.

LONDON — Britain's defense secretary says Prince Harry got extra protection when the Taliban attacked his base in Afghanistan last Friday.

Philip Hammond says the prince, a helicopter pilot, was moved to a secure position once it was clear that the perimeter of Camp Bastion had been breached.

In an interview with the BBC Monday night, Hammond said: "He is serving there as an ordinary officer but clearly there are additional security arrangements in place that recognize that he could be a target himself specifically as a result of who he is."

Two U.S. Marines were killed and six planes were destroyed. The Taliban said the attack was staged to avenge a film that insulted Islam and because Harry is serving at the base.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; princeharry; raf; royals

1 posted on 09/18/2012 5:06:40 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

Makes sense to me. He has been targeted BY NAME to be killed by the Islamofascists. Hopefully, we’d do the same thing to anyone who was specifically targeted by them too.


2 posted on 09/18/2012 5:12:23 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The United States of America apologizing to knuckledragging, cavedwelling Neandethals. Whodda thunk!)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Give Prince Harry extra protection right back to the UK.


3 posted on 09/18/2012 5:13:21 PM PDT by Puckster
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To: MinorityRepublican
Why did they have to make it known where he was! When they disclose his whereabouts, it puts everybody around him a target.

As much as he wants to be just one of the guys, he isn't.

4 posted on 09/18/2012 5:17:43 PM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Harry shouldn’t be serving in a front line post unless he can do it anonymously. Otherwise it’s an increased danger to himself and others.


5 posted on 09/18/2012 5:22:01 PM PDT by Will88
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To: Puckster

Prince Harry is the greatest thing to happen to Great Britain since King Richard the Lionheart!

6 posted on 09/18/2012 5:25:26 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

Most excellent.


7 posted on 09/18/2012 5:35:23 PM PDT by Puckster
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To: MinorityRepublican

I wonder what the yobs would do if Harry were killed. Do you think they’d apologize to the Muslims?


8 posted on 09/18/2012 5:43:16 PM PDT by popdonnelly (The first priority is get Obama out of the White House.)
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To: Puckster

You’re overlooking how important it is for a Royal to be setting an example, by military service.


9 posted on 09/18/2012 5:45:10 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: popdonnelly

Prince Harry is a national symbol. Do they even let him fly Apaches while he’s in Afghanistan? That’s a good question.


10 posted on 09/18/2012 5:49:27 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

may I stea, uh “borrow” that?
LOL


11 posted on 09/18/2012 6:07:01 PM PDT by MS.BEHAVIN (Women who behave rarely make history)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

Well....it’s not the military service, it’s the protection.

In the middle of chaos, as a royal, should he not lead by example and not be fussed over?

If he’s a combat helicopter pilot, I would think he’d be itching to go aloft and fight.

Serving, not window dressing.

I’m to old school to accept such protection sensibilities.

But, I understand, I guess, if Prince Harry didn’t want the Taliban to get his knickers down.


12 posted on 09/18/2012 6:08:55 PM PDT by Puckster
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To: Puckster

“I’m to old”

I’m too old....

BTW....I forgot to add at the end....”Nod-nod-wink-wink!”


13 posted on 09/18/2012 6:10:47 PM PDT by Puckster
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

The Charge of the Light Brigade
Alfred, Lord Tennyson

1.

Half a league, half a league,
Half a league onward,
All in the valley of Death
Rode the six hundred.
“Forward, the Light Brigade!
“Charge for the guns!” he said:
Into the valley of Death
Rode the six hundred.

2.

“Forward, the Light Brigade!”
Was there a man dismay’d?
Not tho’ the soldier knew
Someone had blunder’d:
Theirs not to make reply,
Theirs not to reason why,
Theirs but to do and die:
Into the valley of Death
Rode the six hundred.

3.

Cannon to right of them,
Cannon to left of them,
Cannon in front of them
Volley’d and thunder’d;
Storm’d at with shot and shell,
Boldly they rode and well,
Into the jaws of Death,
Into the mouth of Hell
Rode the six hundred.

4.

Flash’d all their sabres bare,
Flash’d as they turn’d in air,
Sabring the gunners there,
Charging an army, while
All the world wonder’d:
Plunged in the battery-smoke
Right thro’ the line they broke;
Cossack and Russian
Reel’d from the sabre stroke
Shatter’d and sunder’d.
Then they rode back, but not
Not the six hundred.

5.

Cannon to right of them,
Cannon to left of them,
Cannon behind them
Volley’d and thunder’d;
Storm’d at with shot and shell,
While horse and hero fell,
They that had fought so well
Came thro’ the jaws of Death
Back from the mouth of Hell,
All that was left of them,
Left of six hundred.

6.

When can their glory fade?
O the wild charge they made!
All the world wondered.
Honor the charge they made,
Honor the Light Brigade,
Noble six hundred.

Copied from Poems of Alfred Tennyson,
J. E. Tilton and Company, Boston, 1870
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“Gunnery Sgt. Brian M. Blonder shot and killed an insurgent who was aiming a rocket-propelled grenade at his Marines. After that, Blonder and his Marines averaged killing one insurgent about every 10 minutes.”

http://www.marines.mil/unit/hqmc/Pages/ReconMarineawardedNavyCrossforthrivingunderenemybarrage.aspx#.UFkeB8X4Jgo

“a unit of approximately 30 Marines ousted a force of an estimated 250 Taliban combatants – some intelligence reports claimed there were as many as 500 insurgents.”

Are the Marines the only Light Brigade left?


14 posted on 09/18/2012 6:27:02 PM PDT by Puckster
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To: Puckster

Great idea. Are you willing to take his place?


15 posted on 09/18/2012 6:51:50 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

I’ve served...without special protection.....60 now, they wouldn’t let me back in.

Serving now, contracting, in a small FOB in Afghanistan....rockets red glare.

Your point?


16 posted on 09/18/2012 6:55:22 PM PDT by Puckster
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To: Puckster

I figured I’d get that response. Why don’t you volunteer in Harry’s place, Rambo?


17 posted on 09/18/2012 6:57:50 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

You figured so much you failed to read why in my response?

Prince Harry’s presence is a distraction when chaos starts....not needed.


18 posted on 09/18/2012 7:00:37 PM PDT by Puckster
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To: Puckster
I am truly sorry that you were not born into a royal family. It appears to bother you.

I am more curious why you are so willing to denigrate someone in uniform.

19 posted on 09/18/2012 7:02:30 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
If Prince Harry needs extra protection over there, he is a a distraction, makes his unit an even more desirable target at no justifiable benefit to the fight and really shows me that he is nothing more than a photo OP.

Have been there? Twice.

No reason for him to be there. Makes for a feel good photo OP to take peoples minds off the royals other problems.

20 posted on 09/18/2012 7:10:16 PM PDT by Newbomb Turk (Hey Newbomb, where's your brothers ElCamino ?)
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To: 1rudeboy

My Irish roots go back prior to most Royal families.

The simpler the crest the older the family.

Golden stag on a azure shield with 3 fleur-de-lis’

Prince Harry is in a combat zone....if he’s not expected to fight....then he should remain in the UK.

This is respect for those that are here in Afghanistan to fight.

Your point again?


21 posted on 09/18/2012 7:11:03 PM PDT by Puckster
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To: Puckster

Ignore as many points as you wish. Here’s another one: do you feel safer in an Afghanistani camp that contains Prince Harry, or one that does not? LOL


22 posted on 09/18/2012 7:17:48 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

I’m in an area where Prince Harry would be unwilling to serve.

This FOB is in the top 5 most active in Afghanistan.

If Harry doesn’t want to fight then the answer is obvious...no, he wouldn’t be desired here.

Reality hits the bone here every day.

I have to go serve right now, but will be back in about an hour.


23 posted on 09/18/2012 7:24:39 PM PDT by Puckster
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To: Puckster

God help you if you need an Apache pilot.


24 posted on 09/18/2012 7:26:01 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Puckster
Harry has proven himself serious about real service — without special treatment.

Blame the treasonous media, for reporting details on his deployment — just as he did, when he served on land. He was ready, willing, and able to serve as a combat helicopter pilot, with all the risks that entails. At least, he was before he was outed.

Now, that the Taliban have targeted him, it's only sensible to take some precautions. However, sending him back home (with his tail between his legs) would be a victory for the Taliban. They should not be allowed to succeed at this.

25 posted on 09/18/2012 7:38:16 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: 1rudeboy; USFRIENDINVICTORIA

The attack was on the Bastion/British side of the base, near the Marine airfield and attack helicopters were sent up in the fray, Prince Harry’s helicopter was not.

Again, for the last time, what is your point?

Is he an asset? Utilize him! If not, send him home.

He’s a gunner on an Apache....let him gun.


26 posted on 09/18/2012 9:07:36 PM PDT by Puckster
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

Since Prince Harry is the Royal Bait, hopefully now it’ll be real easy to get the Taliban out from where they are hiding and Prince Harry’s Apache Gunship will smoke ‘em all out.


27 posted on 09/19/2012 5:43:26 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Puckster
He's most definitely an asset.

HRH Prince Henry of Wales is third in line to the throne — not just of Britain, but of all 15 nations of the Realm (including Canada and Australia). Even if all he did was show up for breakfast occasionally, his presence would be worth far more than the cost of some extra security. All sorts of people get extra security in a war zone — the general staff, visiting dignitaries, visiting entertainers, even reporters. The Prince is there in a front-line capacity, not just a photo op. His value for troop morale, and for future recruitment is immense.

If it weren't for the traitors in the media, he wouldn't be a special target of the Taliban. He'd be free to fight — as he did before, when he served in combat as a soldier.

Winning a war is about more than slinging lead. The Prince is contributing far more than most. Give it a rest.

28 posted on 09/19/2012 7:57:11 AM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: MinorityRepublican

That would be a good thing.


29 posted on 09/19/2012 8:03:03 AM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Newbomb Turk

HRH Prince Henry of Wales, third in line of succession for the Throne (of 15 nations in the Realm) is there for more than a photo op. He’s already served as a front-line combat soldier.

The Crown is the symbol of every nation in the Realm — it’s a more important symbol for us, than our respective national flags. The Royal family has a long history of leading by example, in times of strife. Prince Henry is doing his duty, as he sees it. His presence there is worth many times the cost of some extra security. (And, if he draws out some Taliban for killing, all the better.)


30 posted on 09/19/2012 8:13:03 AM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
I don't doubt his desire to lead by example or the resolve of prince Harry to do his duty. He is a good man and a good soldier.

What I am trying to convey is that his mere presence as a symbol of the Realm as you state makes him and those around him, including soldiers who are just trying to do their job and come home with their ass attached, a bigger target.

His presence is endangering his fellow soldiers more so than if he was not there or serving in relative anominity.

Continued photo OPs and press coverage of his deployment and location are making others vulnerable to attack.

There is no way to calculate that extra cost my friend.

31 posted on 09/19/2012 9:06:58 AM PDT by Newbomb Turk (Hey Newbomb, where's your brothers ElCamino ?)
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To: Newbomb Turk
The fact still remains -- his presence is doing far more good for the overall war effort, than the cost of extra protection. (Not to mention that the extra protection is only needed, because the traitorous media outed his position.)

The American flag seems to be a popular target for extremists everywhere. A lot of good men have died protecting it. Why not simply take it down from the flagpole at every embassy and foreign military base? Preposterous you say? No more so than removing HRC Prince Henry of Wales from the battlefield, for the reasons you put forward.

Your efforts to denigrate his real service, by suggesting that they're nothing but photo ops, is noted.



BRITISH army chiefs slam Australian gossip mag New Idea for breaking a secrecy deal and revealing that Prince Harry was on the front line in Afghanistan, while the gung-ho royal tells how he fought off "Terry Taliban" with a machine gun.
32 posted on 09/19/2012 9:46:35 AM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: MinorityRepublican

The pervert done displaying his jewels on the Las Vegas skyline is he?

A pathetic example of “royalty”.


33 posted on 09/25/2012 5:37:00 AM PDT by TArcher
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To: TArcher

Yeah, serving one’s country on the front line is really pathetic.


34 posted on 09/25/2012 5:40:04 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: ladyjane

Pathetic.

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&sclient=psy-ab&q=prince+harry+vegas

What’s next, a defense of the realm act and prohibition against public meetings in the FORMER colonies?


35 posted on 09/25/2012 6:46:29 AM PDT by TArcher
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To: ladyjane

>>serving one’s country

You mean serving one’s KING, don’t you?


36 posted on 09/25/2012 6:46:41 AM PDT by TArcher
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To: ladyjane

“Two U.S. Marines were killed and six planes were destroyed.”

But it’s HIS base.

Uhuh - meanwhile back in reality land:

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&sclient=psy-ab&q=london+muslim+mosque

Pathetic.


37 posted on 09/25/2012 6:47:08 AM PDT by TArcher
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To: 1rudeboy

You might want to try reading his post more carefully, FRiend.


38 posted on 09/25/2012 6:52:15 AM PDT by MortMan (Laughter is the best medicine, especially when ridiculing your enemies.)
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To: MortMan

Or not.


39 posted on 09/25/2012 6:55:40 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

Well, given the ignorance displayed in your posts, it would figure you go to some lengths to protect it.


40 posted on 09/25/2012 7:03:41 AM PDT by MortMan (Laughter is the best medicine, especially when ridiculing your enemies.)
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To: MortMan

Another keyboard commando arrives.


41 posted on 09/25/2012 7:06:15 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

You do like to live up to your screen name, don’t you?

At least you’re entertaining.


42 posted on 09/25/2012 7:14:24 AM PDT by MortMan (Laughter is the best medicine, especially when ridiculing your enemies.)
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To: MortMan

Gawd, even that insult is tired. Just as tired as the countless “I’m a hero but he is not” posts I’ve seen over the years.


43 posted on 09/25/2012 7:33:19 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy; Puckster

You and I read his posts differently.

From a military standpoint, he’s right - the extra security dedicated to keeping the Prince safe is a liability. Allowing the Prince to fly his helicopter - which doesn’t preclude his ability to evacuate to safety on orders - makes more sense from this former officer’s point of view.

His presence, at least since it was published, puts a target on everyone in that base, including him.

When you asked if the poster (forgot the screen name - my bad) would take Harry’s place, he stated that he was already serving at an afghan FOB as a contractor. He answered YOUR question, but you read it as “I’m a hero but he is not”.

We differ significantly on that interpretation.

I will admit, though, your attempts to be insulting (at least in my direction) are what I find entertaining. Sorry if my lack of outrage burdens you.

Finally, in the interest of fairness, I will admit that Prince Harry is a courageous young officer, who must (and did) follow orders regarding his own safety and protection. I have no illusions about whether he was scared (he’s not too smart if he wasn’t), but he did what he was supposed to.

That doesn’t lessen the mistake made by his commanders in not better protecting his anonymity.

It also doesn’t lessen the burden on his unit - including the extra threat to every other soldier at the base - posed by his being there. That, as I read it, is what Puckster was commenting on, even if he did frame his reply as if it were Harry’s fault (I see it as a command issue).

Now, back to the entertainment, if you wish...


44 posted on 09/25/2012 7:54:25 AM PDT by MortMan (Laughter is the best medicine, especially when ridiculing your enemies.)
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To: MortMan

Prince Harry is a huge boost in the morale of British troops stationed in Afghanistan because let’s face it, the war isn’t that popular.


45 posted on 09/25/2012 5:12:50 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MortMan

“I see it as a command issue”

In this I agree, and if I made it seem as if it was Harry’s responsibility alone, my bad.

I see in old school terms in that when you serve, you serve.

Someone that is of special interest for the enemy would serve to inspire a cohesive fighting attitude, not a specialized retreat.

“forgot the screen name - my bad”

That would be me.

I’ve served in the USCG from 1970-75, and now as a contractor.

In a small FOB with ANA present, I’m as much, or more, at risk than most in Afghanistan. This is a very active spot.

No weapons for personal defense, at least Rambo was able to shoot back....when he commandeered weapons.

These are just the facts.


46 posted on 09/25/2012 5:48:45 PM PDT by Puckster
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To: Puckster

I did look up your screen name later, and pinged you because I was talking about you.

For a HVT like a British Prince, I can see him being assigned a wingman to cover his flying butt - but not a refusal to allow him to fly when the SHTF that makes him a stationary target.

I was an Army officer during Desert Storm, myself.

Thank you for your service, FRiend.


47 posted on 09/25/2012 7:53:13 PM PDT by MortMan (Laughter is the best medicine, especially when ridiculing your enemies.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

I don’t disagree with your point.

I just think that he should have already been set up with a plan for such an eventuality - and not one that makes him a stationary target. He’s a combat pilot, so let him take to the air. I’m certain that standoff weapons have a great utility in such a circumstance - he doesn’t have to be in range of the enemy, from the enemy’s point of view.

As I stated, it looks like a command failure to me. Just calling it like I see it.

I commend young Harry on being there, in uniform, serving his country. Let no one mistake my comment for criticism in that arena.


48 posted on 09/25/2012 7:57:59 PM PDT by MortMan (Laughter is the best medicine, especially when ridiculing your enemies.)
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To: MortMan

And thank you for your service....

When it comes to Afghanistan, I believe that in 2001, a war should have been prosecuted to the fullest, in as short a period of time, then withdraw with the message to the Taliban that this would happen again if they sheltered Al-Qaeda anymore.

At that time, the Taliban was an actual fighting force, they’ve morphed into drug lord lackeys with terrorist ways.

With the Northern Alliance strengthened and the Taliban weakened, there could of been a decade of distraction away from issues outside Afghanistan....leaving it an isolated conflict....to some degree.

I’m here to get as many back home, whole and alive, as I can.


49 posted on 09/25/2012 10:55:49 PM PDT by Puckster
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To: Puckster
According to this: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/prince-harry-destroys-taliban-targets-1374190 Prince Harry has indeed been utilised as an 'asset' against the Taliban. As for the numpty (not you Puckster) who insists in slating Prince Harry for that incident in Vegas, all I can say is it reminds me of this verse in Rudyard Kipling's 'Tommy':

We aren't no thin red 'eroes, nor we aren't no blackguards too, But single men in barricks, most remarkable like you; An' if sometimes our conduck isn't all your fancy paints, Why, single men in barricks don't grow into plaster saints;

50 posted on 10/17/2012 6:30:11 AM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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