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Washington Compost in VA: 0bama 52% Romney 44% - No internals available
Washington Compost ^ | 9-18-12 | Laura Vozzella, Dan Balz and Jon Cohen

Posted on 09/18/2012 5:12:32 PM PDT by GR_Jr.

With just seven weeks of campaigning left before the November election, President Obama holds a clear lead over Mitt Romney in Virginia, buoyed by growing optimism about the state of the country and fueled by a gender gap working in his favor, according to a new Washington Post poll.

Obama leads his Republican rival by 52 percent to 44 percent among likely voters. Among all registered voters, the president leads by 50 percent to 43 percent, a margin identical to that recorded in a survey in early May. That indicates that Romney has made up little apparent ground against Obama during four intense months of advertising and campaign visits.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012polls; 2012swingstates; boguspoll; election2012; va2012; wp
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1 posted on 09/18/2012 5:12:33 PM PDT by GR_Jr.
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To: GR_Jr.

sure


2 posted on 09/18/2012 5:14:16 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: GR_Jr.

I’ll believe that when me sh!t turns purple and smells like rainbow sherbet.


3 posted on 09/18/2012 5:15:02 PM PDT by PJBankard (I told my friends I was heading to Octermocty for the weekend. They replied... "Wear the fox hat")
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To: GR_Jr.

Let’s face it. The communists have made ALL of the “polls” worthless. No use even paying attention to them anymore. They are all about Barry. Everything in the “media” now is about Barry.


4 posted on 09/18/2012 5:15:03 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The United States of America apologizing to knuckledragging, cavedwelling Neandethals. Whodda thunk!)
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To: GR_Jr.

I know its the Compost, but this is the third poll in a week with 0bama +50% in VA. Gotta think Romney is in some trouble there.


5 posted on 09/18/2012 5:15:24 PM PDT by GR_Jr. ("On Nov.6 I guess I will swallow that bitter pill called Mitt Romney...only to stop 0bama")
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To: snarkytart

So I’m supposed to believe that Obama does better among likely voters than registered voters? I call B. S.


6 posted on 09/18/2012 5:15:58 PM PDT by pie_eater
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To: GR_Jr.

“growing optimism about the state of the country”

Who wouldn’t feel better? Our ambassador to Libya is dead and we got downgraded... again. What’s the sampling rate here? Dems +862


7 posted on 09/18/2012 5:16:22 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: GR_Jr.

Is Romney even advertising in Virginia?

I really would like to see the internals.


8 posted on 09/18/2012 5:16:43 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: GR_Jr.
I know its the Compost, but this is the third poll in a week with 0bama +50% in VA. Gotta think Romney is in some trouble there.

If I keep calling you a horse, does that make it true.
9 posted on 09/18/2012 5:17:57 PM PDT by PJBankard (I told my friends I was heading to Octermocty for the weekend. They replied... "Wear the fox hat")
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To: GR_Jr.

“The poll was conducted by telephone Sept. 12-16 among a random sample of 1,104 adults in Virginia. Interviews were conducted on conventional and cellular telephones, and carried out in English and Spanish. The margin of error for registered and likely voter samples is plus or minus 4 percentage points...”


10 posted on 09/18/2012 5:19:44 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: GR_Jr.

I can believe those numbers.

Think about it, Virginia has how many hundreds of thousands of Gov’t jobs?

They want Zero to keep the paychecks rolling in.


11 posted on 09/18/2012 5:20:08 PM PDT by CapnJack
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To: snarkytart

Did you see the photographs on the damn web page? Some old woman hugging Obama...and the pic of Romney shows him frowning.

Agitprop.


12 posted on 09/18/2012 5:21:06 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: GR_Jr.

Look, this newspaper is the the most liberal in the country outside of the NY Times. They have an agenda and it’s to discourage conservatives and to set up the fake outrage when Obama loses. There’s no way this President and his failed policies is up by the exact same margin he won the state by in 2008. Zero chance.


13 posted on 09/18/2012 5:21:17 PM PDT by NoobRep
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To: GR_Jr.
Anecdotal observations over this past weekend: Traveled from Knoxville, TN to Manassas, VA to Purcellville, VA to Alexandria, VA and back to Knoxville, a total of ~1100 miles.

In all those travels I saw: 5 bumper stickers for Romney and 2 for Obama (one near Alexandria on I66 and one in TN near Morristown) and 12 yard (and barn) signs for Romney and 5 for Obama (these were all in one little town near Purcellville). Can we say this is different than 2008?

14 posted on 09/18/2012 5:21:25 PM PDT by jennings2004 (News flash! The 58th State has been found, it's OIHO....LOL)
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To: SoFloFreeper

A random sample of Washington Post subscribers..


15 posted on 09/18/2012 5:21:34 PM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: GR_Jr.

BS!!! FUBO!!!!


16 posted on 09/18/2012 5:22:37 PM PDT by JessieHelmsJr (Tree hugging liberals call it global warming. We call it summertime. FUBO!!!)
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To: SoFloFreeper

The internals are there you just have to click on details. But here’s the takeaway. Obama and Romney both have about 95% support from their parties while independents in this poll give Obama a less than 2 point edge. So to get an 8 point margin, the sample has to be dem +6 to dem +8. I’d guess that will not be how it shakes out in the end since Republicans made big gains in 2010.


17 posted on 09/18/2012 5:24:20 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (.)
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To: GR_Jr.

I live in Virginia. I have YET to see an Obama yard sign. I see very few Obama bumper stickers, and those I **DO** see are on cars plastered with Dem stickers.

I’m taking this no-internals poll with a large grain of salt. . . about a 50-pound bag sounds right. . .


18 posted on 09/18/2012 5:24:27 PM PDT by Salgak (Acme Lasers presents: The Energizer Border. I **DARE** you to cross it. . . .)
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To: GR_Jr.

LOL!
Even PPP had VA around the margin of error today!

Haven’t seen any Romney ads in SWVA, seen several Obama ads.


19 posted on 09/18/2012 5:25:59 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: SoFloFreeper

From the poll:

“Q: Generally speaking, do you usually think of yourself as a...
Hide Results
Detailed View

Democrat 32%

Republican 24%

Independent 35%

(VOL.) No Pref./Other 5%

Don’t know 4%”

(DEM +8)


20 posted on 09/18/2012 5:26:09 PM PDT by Palmetto Patriot (2010 All Over Again. Make it happen. Get Busy!)
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To: GR_Jr.
People are lying to pollsters....52% of the voters in Va are not that stupid....right?

...they are not THAT stupid..right? right??

21 posted on 09/18/2012 5:26:20 PM PDT by B.O. Plenty (Elections have consequences....)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

All of this is so when Barry loses, the press will cry fraud and let the riots begin...


22 posted on 09/18/2012 5:26:57 PM PDT by Hildy (F"When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser." - Socrates)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Ask and ye shall receive. The Dem loaded internals

Democrat 32%

Republican 24%

Independent 35%

(VOL.) No Pref./Other 5%

Don't know 4%

23 posted on 09/18/2012 5:27:02 PM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: B.O. Plenty

I vacationed in NoVa and Wash DC in April.
It looks like America USED to look.

50% of the commercial buildings DON’T have “available” or “for lease” like they do here in the midwest.
Big cranes on the skyline building stuff.

That federal gusher of cash has been very kind to the area.
I can see why they support Baraq.


24 posted on 09/18/2012 5:30:39 PM PDT by nascarnation (Defeat Baraq 2012. Deport Baraq 2013)
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To: GR_Jr.

internals at bottom: 32%rats/24%GOP/35% ind....not Indy breakdown on questions...


25 posted on 09/18/2012 5:32:14 PM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: GR_Jr.

Hopefully Romney has a TRUSTED polling firm working for him.

When the MSM announces a ‘poll’ without any internals, it’s pretty obvious that they want his campaign to hang it up and pull out.

So far Romney’s been pretty smart...and won’t take the bait. Virginia is not only winnable, it’s a CINCH as long as he takes it seriously. Yes, the people in the Arlington area LOVE big government, but Virginia is a HUGE state and downstate people cannot stand this president.


26 posted on 09/18/2012 5:32:30 PM PDT by BobL (You can live each day only once. You can waste a few, but don't waste too many.)
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To: NoobRep

if the GOP can’t win the state considering the job McDonnell has done, eff them....


27 posted on 09/18/2012 5:35:39 PM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: GR_Jr.

We have no truth in media and polling outfits now are agenda driven and I do not believe anyone other than Levin, Limbaugh or Palin.

LLS


28 posted on 09/18/2012 5:36:08 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("if it looks like you are not gonna make it you gotta get mean, I mean plumb mad-dog mean" J. Wales)
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To: BobL

There are internals. The. person who posted the thread missed them


29 posted on 09/18/2012 5:37:34 PM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: Mad Dawg; EDINVA; VA_Gentleman; seekthetruth; COBOL2Java; Perdogg; kabar; Gabz; Wage Slave; ...

VA Ping!

If you want on/off the VA Ping List, please freepmail me. Thanks!


30 posted on 09/18/2012 5:38:45 PM PDT by randita
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To: CaptainK
This election will more mirror the 2010 turnout than that for 2008. More Republicans voted in 2010 than Democrats in the state of Virginia. Time will tell but doing a D+8 poll in Virginia will in no way reflect the turnout this year, which is more likely to be around R+2.

That's a 10-point swing.

31 posted on 09/18/2012 5:38:59 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: GR_Jr.

The number of people who self-identify as Republicans is at least equal to the number of people who self-identify as Democrats. Yet the pollsters continue to over sample Democrats.


32 posted on 09/18/2012 5:40:01 PM PDT by popdonnelly (The first priority is get Obama out of the White House.)
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To: SamAdams76

wow


33 posted on 09/18/2012 5:41:40 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: Hildy

I agree with you 100%. The DemocRATS have thousands of lawyers getting ready to challenge the results if Barry Soetoro doesn’t win. I may just do an absentee ballot and then try to be off planet in November (after the race at PIR) and December. The holidays aren’t going to be pleasant this year unless one side calls for a Christmas truce. America against the global communists is finally about to happen. I really don’t see how it can be avoided. JMO.


34 posted on 09/18/2012 5:42:04 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The United States of America apologizing to knuckledragging, cavedwelling Neandethals. Whodda thunk!)
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To: GR_Jr.
There are internals, but it takes some digging.

This Washington Post poll was conducted by telephone September 12 to 16, 2012, among a random sample of 1,104 adults in the Commonwealth of Virginia. Interviews were conducted on conventional and cellular telephones, and carried out in English and Spanish by Abt-SRBI of New York. The results from the full sample have a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 3.5 percentage points; it is four points for the samples of 934 registered voters and 847 likely voters.

Democrat 32
Republican 24
Independent 35
(VOL.) No Pref./Other 5
Don't know 4



35 posted on 09/18/2012 5:47:42 PM PDT by PA Engineer (What if the rabbit hole is endless?)
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To: GR_Jr.

EXIST POLLS SHOWED BUSH LOSING 14% hours after polls closed. I woke up and Bush won by the widest margin of victory in the popular vote in history.

These are evil communist liars.

If you are a human being that believes ANYTHING from ANY polling organization, you are in the level of IQ for a mental handicapped.

This includes Gallop- you know all read what happened when they even attempted to be objective. The Tyrant and illegitimate “president” did the typical union tactic of direct retaliation and blackmail, on the whistleblower/truth-teller.

We don’t live in a reality now. Wake up. SMELL THE BULLSHIT
!


36 posted on 09/18/2012 5:50:31 PM PDT by Individual Rights in NJ (Want to join my new country in Greenland? Like the Danes will stop us; pft!)
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To: GR_Jr.

This poll has been posted three times today. I don’t know of two other polls. This is a poll of ADULTS and without knowing anything else you need to adjust it by 4. Then, on top of that, they OVERSAMPLED Dems to make up the difference. WaPo and WSJ have both been very poor, as they were in 2008.


37 posted on 09/18/2012 5:51:07 PM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually (Hendrix))
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To: jennings2004

I don’t know any 2008 Virginia Obama voters, other than die hard libs, that don’t have buyers remorse. None. Nada. Zip.


38 posted on 09/18/2012 5:54:03 PM PDT by Hero
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To: FlingWingFlyer

This is exactly what I think they are doing: setting up a sure loss for then delegitimizing the Romney presidency. (”How could Romney win? ALL the polls said he was winning big.”


39 posted on 09/18/2012 5:56:08 PM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually (Hendrix))
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To: LS

The “media” should be held responsible for everything that happens in November. Right now, I see it getting ugly no matter who wins. Our country is divided and it was the Democrats who made it that way. We’re all in trouble IMHO.


40 posted on 09/18/2012 6:00:56 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The United States of America apologizing to knuckledragging, cavedwelling Neandethals. Whodda thunk!)
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To: GR_Jr.

If there are no internals available, then it is most likely a crap poll that over-samples Dems.


41 posted on 09/18/2012 6:02:30 PM PDT by ShovelThemOut
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To: GR_Jr.

This is hilarious. Obama won Virginia by 6.5 points in 2008 and that was a huge Democratic year. There is no way Obama beats Romney by 9 points, win or no win.


42 posted on 09/18/2012 6:05:51 PM PDT by napscoordinator (GOP Candidate 2020 - "Bloomberg 2020 - We vote for whatever crap the GOP puts in front of us.")
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To: CapnJack

I can believe those numbers.
Think about it, Virginia has how many hundreds of thousands of Gov’t jobs?
They want Zero to keep the paychecks rolling in.

I don’t know why people keep saying that government workers are in the bag for Obama. Government workers have not had a raise since Obama has taken over and not only that but they are not getting another raise for at least 2 or three more years. I think you guys over think the government worker thing.


43 posted on 09/18/2012 6:08:33 PM PDT by napscoordinator (GOP Candidate 2020 - "Bloomberg 2020 - We vote for whatever crap the GOP puts in front of us.")
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To: SamAdams76

we have union thuggery and multistate voting.

I one democrat politician emboldened enought is voting in two states, how about those unionistaas?

Obama is a student of “the chicago way” with fraudulent voting at the center of power.


44 posted on 09/18/2012 6:13:00 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: LS; GR_Jr.
This poll has been posted three times today. I don’t know of two other polls. This is a poll of ADULTS and without knowing anything else you need to adjust it by 4. Then, on top of that, they OVERSAMPLED Dems to make up the difference. WaPo and WSJ have both been very poor, as they were in 2008.

The latest partisan breakdown I've seen in Virginia for voter identification has it 39% R vs. 36% D. This means that while Democrats are undersampled by 4%, Republicans are undersampled by 15%. Hence, an 11% net deficit for the GOP. Indies are thus oversampled by 10%. Given that Indies are leaning slightly Romney, but not enough to overtake an 11% deficit among the total electorate, oversampling them seems to be a new way that the MSM pollsters have cooked up to try to get around the charge of straight-up Dem oversampling (have noticed this in a few other polls the past few days).

Adjusted, I'd guesstimate that the actual lie of the land in VA is closer to a 49%-47% lead for Romney.

45 posted on 09/18/2012 6:13:44 PM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (You can wish in one hand and spit in the other and see which gets filled first.)
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To: GR_Jr.

Democrat 32

Republican 24

Independent 35

No Pref./Other 5

Don’t know 4


46 posted on 09/18/2012 6:14:57 PM PDT by 1035rep (Obama: "I killed Bin Laden" ...you didn't do that. Somebody else made that happen.)
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To: Yashcheritsiy

Thank you. That was my intuition, but honestly I’m getting punchy trying to keep these lying POSes straight.


47 posted on 09/18/2012 6:19:24 PM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually (Hendrix))
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To: GR_Jr.

The ComPost sampled D+8. Virginia`s registration is R+2. This “poll” was not even in the ballpark of reality. The accompanying story read like a breathless brag piece we see with PPP polls. The “media” polls should be tagged with a (D) before inclusion onto RCP.


48 posted on 09/18/2012 6:31:36 PM PDT by ScottinVA (If Obama is reelected, America will deserve every mockery that follows.)
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To: PA Engineer

IT is bad for the Kenyen when pollsters are still at this late date not switching to the likely voter model....

1) sleestack creatures
2) adults
3) registered voters
4) likely voters

Compost still stuck on #2


49 posted on 09/18/2012 6:32:31 PM PDT by AdamBomb
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To: AdamBomb
Compost still stuck on #2

Agreed. The 10% not voting (internals) in the last election was very revealing.

I wonder if this polling manipulation could backfire and suppress democrat turnout instead. Heck, if Obama is way ahead why bother voting?
50 posted on 09/18/2012 7:13:04 PM PDT by PA Engineer (What if the rabbit hole is endless?)
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