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NBC/WSJ: 0bama 50% Romney 45% (42% D / 37% R / 16% I)
NBS/WSJ ^ | 9-18-12 | NBC/WSJ

Posted on 09/18/2012 5:35:23 PM PDT by GR_Jr.

Click link for internals of the poll.

(Excerpt) Read more at msnbcmedia.msn.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012polls; election2012
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1 posted on 09/18/2012 5:35:29 PM PDT by GR_Jr.
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To: GR_Jr.

phooey....


2 posted on 09/18/2012 5:36:01 PM PDT by ptsal (E)
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To: GR_Jr.

This was before Romney started fighting back today. We’ll see if he keeps fighting, and if that changes things.


3 posted on 09/18/2012 5:38:40 PM PDT by Siegfried X
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To: GR_Jr.

Without even looking I say this is beyond ridiculous.


4 posted on 09/18/2012 5:39:37 PM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills and bo stinks)
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To: GR_Jr.

According to 2010 models, this OVERSAMPLED Dems by nine?


5 posted on 09/18/2012 5:40:02 PM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually (Hendrix))
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To: GR_Jr.

Poll of 900 registered voters...


6 posted on 09/18/2012 5:40:15 PM PDT by Doofer (ad)
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To: GR_Jr.

again, another poll with no breakdown on the independents choice....is this another left wing poll tactic- obozo has been getting crushed in the independent category the past three months so, “lets just leave that one out”...


7 posted on 09/18/2012 5:40:27 PM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: GR_Jr.

The country (and our economy, and defenses, and alliances) .... are all going to Hell in a Handbasket.

How is it possible the election could even be close?

What do Romney and Ryan need to do .. to get media coverage? They seem to be frozen out, except if one of them sneezes then it gets covered as a” major campaign screw-up”


8 posted on 09/18/2012 5:40:52 PM PDT by faithhopecharity
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To: LS

5


9 posted on 09/18/2012 5:41:14 PM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: GR_Jr.

Using the proper voter demographics these numbers are reversed. Anything that NBC/WSJ produces should be treated with skepticism and a grain of salt.


10 posted on 09/18/2012 5:41:50 PM PDT by DarthVader (Politicians govern out of self interest, Statesmen govern for a Vision greater than themselves)
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To: GR_Jr.

NBC/WSJ was 16th out of 23 for accuracy in 2008.


11 posted on 09/18/2012 5:42:59 PM PDT by KevinB (We'll stop treating Obama like a dog when he stops treating us like a fire hydrant - Fred Grandy)
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To: GR_Jr.

Can you find more polls to post? Thanks!


12 posted on 09/18/2012 5:43:31 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: GR_Jr.

I’m still waiting for that

O - 100 R - 0

poll


13 posted on 09/18/2012 5:44:49 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: GR_Jr.

Wonder if Rove is kicking himself.


14 posted on 09/18/2012 5:45:16 PM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness)
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To: GR_Jr.

the real mix 37R 33D 30I Translation = Romney 53 Obama 47


15 posted on 09/18/2012 5:45:40 PM PDT by Rodm
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To: GR_Jr.

Polls schmolls. Here is the only question I’d like to see answered:

Why would anyone vote for four more years of Obamanomics?


16 posted on 09/18/2012 5:45:52 PM PDT by Kharis13 (That noise you hear is our Founding Fathers spinning in their graves.)
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To: LS

I read by five.
How did you get nine?
Not saying you are incorrect, just wondering.


17 posted on 09/18/2012 5:46:25 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: GR_Jr.

No matter how you look at the numbers, it’s bad for Obama. There was a 20+% over sample of registered voters vs. likely voters.


18 posted on 09/18/2012 5:46:41 PM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature ($1.84 - The price of a gallon of gas on Jan. 20th, 2009.)
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To: GR_Jr.
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19 posted on 09/18/2012 5:47:52 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: GR_Jr.

Turnout will win this election. It is time for the “broken glass” anti-Obama voters to emerge.


20 posted on 09/18/2012 5:49:29 PM PDT by Senator_Blutarski
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To: faithhopecharity

This is why it is close.

“my job is not to worry about those people.”

Single most stupid thing Romney could have said, along with “I like to fire people” and let’s not forget, “not worried about the poor people”

We had a chance to nominate a world class leader, the idiots picked Romney, who was a “shoe-in.” Hahahahahaha


21 posted on 09/18/2012 5:52:05 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: GR_Jr.

ARE NOT you ONE OF THOSE WHO TRASH ROMNEY ON EVERY POST AT FREE REPUBLIC YOU CAN??


22 posted on 09/18/2012 5:52:05 PM PDT by haircutter (.)
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To: faithhopecharity

This is why it is close.

“my job is not to worry about those people.”

Single most stupid thing Romney could have said, along with “I like to fire people” and let’s not forget, “not worried about the poor people”

We had a chance to nominate a world class leader, the idiots picked Romney, who was a “shoe-in.” Hahahahahaha


23 posted on 09/18/2012 5:52:16 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: snarkytart

LOL....


24 posted on 09/18/2012 5:52:16 PM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: Doofer
the long and the short of it is WE'VE GOT TO GET OUT AND VOTE AND ENCOURAGE ALL YOUR HUNTING PALS,YOUR MILITARY PALS, YOUR CHRISTIAN PALS, YOU SPOUSES etc ....

the SCM is just following orders to discourage us....

don't fall for it people....

vote...donate...volunteer...and donate and vote again if you have too...

25 posted on 09/18/2012 5:53:45 PM PDT by cherry
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To: EGPWS

LOVE YOUR GRAPHIC!!


26 posted on 09/18/2012 5:54:05 PM PDT by haircutter (.)
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To: Viennacon

Google San Francisco or Berkeley papers, you will likely find it there.


27 posted on 09/18/2012 5:54:19 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (Romney was right about the Olympics, but neither the Brits or the Dems will admit it.)
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To: Viennacon

That will happen on the same week the employment rate is 0% because everyone stopped looking for jobs.


28 posted on 09/18/2012 5:54:18 PM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: GR_Jr.

MSM is still on “Operation dispirit Republicans”.


29 posted on 09/18/2012 5:56:42 PM PDT by AU72
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To: Toespi
the idiots picked Romney, who was a “shoe-in.” Hahahahahaha

A shoe-in???? Hahahaha Pot calling the kettle idiots?

30 posted on 09/18/2012 5:57:20 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: Siegfried X

It’s a crap poll that over-samples Dems. Before Romney started “fighting back” Obama was not ahead.


31 posted on 09/18/2012 5:58:14 PM PDT by ShovelThemOut
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To: GR_Jr.

LOL


32 posted on 09/18/2012 5:59:12 PM PDT by HapaxLegamenon
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To: Toespi
Obama thanks you for your support, I am sure.

Actually?

Conservatives pretty much agree with all of the comments that Romney has made, recently.

33 posted on 09/18/2012 6:00:09 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: GR_Jr.

34 posted on 09/18/2012 6:00:33 PM PDT by timestax (Why not drug tests for the President AND all White Hut staff ? ? ?)
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To: GR_Jr.

Why does the WSJ, with hands-down the best opinion section on newsprint, particpate in this rubbish. 17% independents? 42% Democrats?

I know their news division is typically liberal, but this is just a disgrace.


35 posted on 09/18/2012 6:01:28 PM PDT by JacksonCalhoun (CT Yankee in NC Exile)
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To: timestax

Okay. Maybe I’m stupid, but can anyone tell me why WSJ has alligned themselves with NBC for years in their polling endeavors? Seriously. I cannot believe WSJ would be that stupid.


36 posted on 09/18/2012 6:02:37 PM PDT by Galtoid ( .)
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To: svcw

I forget-—LOL-—I think from 2010 turnout #s + Dem OVERSAMPLE. But I’m getting punchy tring to keep up with Adam lies. Ras has a 1-point race, but I haven’t seen his splits.


37 posted on 09/18/2012 6:02:50 PM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually (Hendrix))
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To: GR_Jr.

It’s a +8 Obama sample. 45% of those polled voted for Obama , 37% for McCain. That’s a +8 sample. Obama won by 7 in 2008. SO either 4 years of failure haven’t phased any Obama voters and America has passed the point of no return or their assumptions are erroneous. We’ll find out in November.


38 posted on 09/18/2012 6:03:36 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (.)
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To: LS

Totally get it, we agree however dems are over sampled so libs can get the results they want.


39 posted on 09/18/2012 6:05:33 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: Toespi
His job is to not worry about the people who are already voting for Obama because they are unreachable.
He is talking about the election process, not about abandoning the 47% in the way he would govern.

If you open up the economy, create more jobs. Maybe create a situation where more companies are started and everyone prospers, then that 47% might lose 13% more to having to pay taxes due to earning income.

That said, having 2% pay 70% of the taxes in this country on it's face seems a crime.

40 posted on 09/18/2012 6:05:40 PM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: jwalsh07

Oversampled Rats, undersampled independents.

Same old story.

Looks like about a 10% Romney victory from this poll’s internals!


41 posted on 09/18/2012 6:05:40 PM PDT by diamond6 (Freerepublic.com and Hillbuzz.org are my go to sites for conservative news.)
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To: diamond6

I doubt it. They are using 2008 as a model and ignoring 2010 but they assign indepents based on lean. Virginia will be close, either way.


42 posted on 09/18/2012 6:11:45 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (.)
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To: GR_Jr.

Excellent. Reverse engineer those numbers knowing that there are lots fewer Ds and many more Is that will break Romney, and you’ve got a friggin landslide.


43 posted on 09/18/2012 6:14:53 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (You didn't build that. The private sector is doing fine. We tried our plan and it worked.)
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To: Uncle Miltie
Excellent. Reverse engineer those numbers knowing that there are lots fewer Ds and many more Is that will break Romney, and you’ve got a friggin landslide.

Maybe. I would throw a cautionary note into the analysis here - Romney's own pollsters think the Dem advantage on party ID will be about 3 points. It was 8 points in 2008 and even or R +1 in 2010, so 3 points seems about right.

Adjusting this poll based on that assumption shows a tight race.

44 posted on 09/18/2012 6:27:11 PM PDT by TonyInOhio (Speak Up, Mitt!)
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To: A CA Guy

For four years Obama has been customizing his message just to run against Romney. That is one of the reasons Obama has gone the class warfare route. Bain was not allowed to be discussed by republicans during the primaries, it was a no-no, needed to protect the assumptive nominee, Romney . If people couldn’t see that this was going to be between those that eat steak and those that eat hamburger, they are stupid. Romney is sticking the hot dog right in people’s faces with these thoughtless comments.


45 posted on 09/18/2012 6:28:10 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: Toespi
1. Those comments were four months old.

2. Romney's core strategy should be to make this election about economic reality, not the candidates.

Item #2 is important. I'd venture to guess that even Obama's most ardent supporters are worse off today than they were four years ago. Romney's advantage in the general election is the same advantage he had in the GOP primaries: He looks presidential.

46 posted on 09/18/2012 6:33:16 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: Alberta's Child

He may “look” presidential, but I sure as hell hope his brain catches up with his looks, real soon.


47 posted on 09/18/2012 6:42:43 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: Toespi
All politics aside, he's probably one of the 2-3 most capable, competent men ever to run for office as the nation's chief executive. Whether that's enough to win is a different story, but don't ever sell that guy short.

Personally, I think if someone that capable loses to a jug-eared nitwit who comes across as mildly retarded whenever he speaks without a teleprompter, then at least we can all rest easy and stop taking anything in this country seriously anymore. As for me, I'll likely be checking out of here and pursuing my business interests elsewhere if that happens.

48 posted on 09/18/2012 6:49:29 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: Toespi

Open primaries, are why Democrats chose the Republican nominee.


49 posted on 09/18/2012 7:52:12 PM PDT by ROTB (Live holy, forgive all & pray in Jesus' name. Trust He is willing & able & eager to ANSWER BIG!)
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To: snarkytart; All

this is better than a poll - not scewed...uses same formula every year - been right on all last 8 presidents

http://www.colorado.edu/news/releases/2012/08/22/analysis-election-factors-points-romney-win-university-colorado-study-says


50 posted on 09/18/2012 8:16:50 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does....)
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