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It's Worse Than Romney Said: 49% On Federal Aid, 49% Pay No Tax
The Washington Examiner ^ | Paul Bedard

Posted on 09/18/2012 5:59:50 PM PDT by drewh

Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney underplayed the percentage of Americans receiving some federal aid in that new clandestine fundraising video that is giving liberals, the media and President Obama's team fits.

While Romney suggested that 47 percent of Americans are dependent on government aid of some sort, the number is actually slightly higher. Over 49 percent of Americans live in a household where somebody is dependent on federal assistance, according to federal statistics.

And the percentage of people who don't pay taxes is worse than Romney pegged at 47 percent. According to the Heritage Foundation, it's over 49 percent. This is from a report they just issued: "In 1962, the first year measured in the Index of Dependence on Government, the percentage of people who did not pay federal income taxes themselves and who were not claimed as dependents by someone who did pay federal income taxes stood at 23.7 percent; it fell to 12 percent by 1969 before beginning a ragged and ultimately steady increase. By 2000, the percentage was 34.1 percent; by 2009, it was 49.5 percent. In short, the country is now at a point where roughly one-half of 'taxpayers' do not pay federal income taxes, and where most of that same population receives generous federal benefits."

U.S. Census figures cited by multiple sources including the Wall Street Journal, CNN and Heritage, find that American reliance on federal assistance has surged under Obama. When he took office, it was 44.4 percent. And it's a trend: some 30 percent relied on assistance in the 1980s.

Some of that, of course, individual Americans paid for, such as Social Security and Medicare. According to the sources, the breakdown goes like this:

-- 15 percent of American households are on food stamps.

-- 15 percent tap Medicare.

-- 26 percent use Medicaid.

-- 2 percent are on unemployment.

-- 16 percent receive Social Security.

Overall, under Obama federal aid to health, welfare, housing and retirement programs has spiked. But it's dropped dramatically to education and rural and agricultural programs, said Heritage.

What Romney inartfully said has been echoed by small government advocates for years. But for critics of expanded federal aid that concern is reaching a crisis as they worry the government is spending itself into bankruptcy and American liberty and independence is evaporating.

Said Heritage's federal spending experts William Beach and Patrick D. Tyrrell in their latest report on government dependence: "Perhaps the greatest danger is that the swelling ranks of Americans who enjoy government services and benefits for which they pay few or no taxes will lead to a spreading sense of entitlement that is simply incompatible with self-government. Are Americans completely indifferent to history's many examples of republican government collapsing under the weight of just such populations? Are Americans near a tipping point in the nature of their government and the principles that tie it to civil life?"


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: 47percent

1 posted on 09/18/2012 5:59:54 PM PDT by drewh
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To: drewh

We are either at the point of no return or damn close.


2 posted on 09/18/2012 6:01:46 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: tennmountainman

3 posted on 09/18/2012 6:06:09 PM PDT by drewh
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To: drewh
So, maybe all there is now is to manage the decay.

Very depressing that for years, we have dropped the ball to get more people understanding the idea to be being independent of the government minus the people who are not the blood suckers. Not everyone is getting a free ride because they did pay in. More people will fall into the trap. It sure is a big monstrosity.

4 posted on 09/18/2012 6:07:42 PM PDT by Christie at the beach (I like Newt.)
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To: Christie at the beach

All the same criminals at work, whispering sweet nothings in our ears.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekQSpbwKkdg


5 posted on 09/18/2012 6:20:14 PM PDT by gotribe (WTF?)
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To: drewh
That means 51%, about half, of the American people are being used as slave labor. They labor to pay the "fair share" of the other 49%.
6 posted on 09/18/2012 6:25:41 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: gotribe

Thanks for sharing this.


7 posted on 09/18/2012 6:26:03 PM PDT by Christie at the beach (I like Newt.)
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To: concerned about politics

I have a real problem with lumping social security in with this. There are more “disabled” people than there should be, but there are some actually disabled and quite a few formerly hard working retired people who PAID INTO this. If you think this is somehow unfair, I’d like all of my money back, and with it invested as I would have into the stock market, please, starting in 1975. Then I will call it “even” and I won’t have to be a “freeloader”, as you seem to think. I’ve actually worked these numbers: I could retire in Florida NOW.

I’ve also read that somehow “unemployment” is figured into this as “freeloading”. What were my employers and I “contributing” to every paycheck over the last ~35 years? Charity?


8 posted on 09/18/2012 6:35:48 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: The Antiyuppie
When people are FORCED to pay into SS and Medicare, they have every right to collect. No problem.
If they're collecting unemployment, their employers were FORCED to pay into it, and the employees have every right to collect. No problem.

I do have a problem with those who believe they're simply entitled to a free ride even though they've never done anything for anybody in their life - not even themselves. THIS is a problem.
There's no reason why anyone should be used as another mans slave. They don't deserve a hand out. If they're not going to work, they shouldn't eat.

9 posted on 09/18/2012 6:42:46 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: drewh

Thanks for the hard data!


10 posted on 09/18/2012 7:08:26 PM PDT by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: Christie at the beach
We now have a large percentage of “citizens” who feel smugly entitled to feed at the Federal government teat.

Lets start off small...Free or Reduced Public School Lunch.

I didn't meet the maximum “minimum income” requirements.
I was encouraged several times by several schools to lie.
It was repeatedly pointed out that nobody ever verifies the accuracy of those forms, I could save a few pennies, and the school would get big money from the Feds if they claimed a certain percentage of “low income households”.

Why would a school want me to lie about my income to save myself a measly few hundred dollars a year? (And not even that much, since packing a lunch was always an option)

Because THEY would get several thousands of Federal taxpayer dollars if I lied. Each additional tax cheat and liar they could convince to cooperate, meant even more money for them, personally.
It had nothing to do with whether or not I could or would feed my own child.
Since I am part of the 53%, it seriously angered me that a group of government workers thought I was stupid enough to agree to become a part of the problem, and not the solution.

I hope our next President signs an Executive Order requiring a simple cursory income verification audit of applications for this “Program”.
One day later, he can disband the entire Department of Education, or start indicting the employees of that Agency for fraud, under RICO statutes.

Kind of like Gov. Scott Walker on steroids!

11 posted on 09/18/2012 7:11:08 PM PDT by sarasmom
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To: tennmountainman
We are either at the point of no return or damn close.

Ignored in all these discussions is the underpinning of the bureaucracy-welfare complex : poverty.

How exactly has the definition of "poverty" crept upward until the entitled "poor" are better off than the lowest fifth of working income-taxpaying Americans supporting them?

12 posted on 09/18/2012 7:14:10 PM PDT by publius911 (Formerly Publius 6961, formerly jennsdad)
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To: The Antiyuppie
I’ve also read that somehow “unemployment” is figured into this as “freeloading”.

I believe they're only measuring those on Fed EUC or EB, not the originating state UI that goes anywhere from 20-40 weeks.

13 posted on 09/18/2012 7:15:56 PM PDT by StAnDeliver (2008 + IN, NC, FL, VA, OH, NE1, IA = 272EV)
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To: drewh

It’s higher than that. You have to include crony capitalists, tarp recipients, lawyers, lobbyists, most government employees, union workers, and lifetime politicians. They all support the system.


14 posted on 09/18/2012 7:17:15 PM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: sarasmom

Lets start off small...Free or Reduced Public School Lunch.

No, let’s start with socialized education. Teach your own kids or pay someone else. Of course anyone should be free to voluntarily help someone else or accept that help.


15 posted on 09/18/2012 7:19:52 PM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: concerned about politics; The Antiyuppie
When people are FORCED to pay into SS and Medicare, they have every right to collect. No problem.

Yet here there are lumped in, in this article.

The only age group that voted against Obama in 2008, (the only one)

16 posted on 09/18/2012 7:48:32 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: freedomfiter2
Your proposed “start point” can only devolve into libertarian chaos, and ultimately the return of barbarity.

You may be happier in a third world developing nation. Feel free to emigrate.

17 posted on 09/18/2012 8:00:45 PM PDT by sarasmom
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To: The Antiyuppie

Unemployment insurance is supposed to be self funded.

The problem is that federal funds have been kicked in to extend payments to as long as 99 weeks.

That’s ridiculous. I know the economy is bad, but too many people weren’t making any real effort to look for a job.

After 26 weeks, its time to do something different. Maybe you aren’t going to get a job with the same pay, or where you currently live. Or maybe you should start training for a new career.


18 posted on 09/18/2012 8:07:08 PM PDT by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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To: Christie at the beach

I understand the point Romney was trying to make but I think he uses a wide brush to paint his picture . Most everyone agrees something has to be done. This is not a problem that just developed, it has been created over many years. Obama has made it much worse. But when Romney was Gov. he only added to the problem. His RomneyCare provides free medical coverage with free abortions. He recently stated he was proud of it. As Gov. he implemented a free cars for welfare program, which not only provided free cars but free repairs and even free AAA cards. I think he is part of the problem not the solution. His complaint seem to be that they would not vote for him not that the programs were wrong.


19 posted on 09/18/2012 8:21:10 PM PDT by brightright
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To: drewh
“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years.” ― Alexis de Tocqueville
20 posted on 09/18/2012 9:15:04 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: sarasmom

Our “education” system is one of the chief tools being used to turn our country into a third world country.


21 posted on 09/19/2012 3:27:22 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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