Posted on 09/19/2012 6:47:58 AM PDT by Ravi
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AP poll showed Obama up one also this am. I believe sample was dem 31 to repub 22.
I just hope that if we are going to have a three braches again that the Republicans don’t screw it up like last time. With Romney, you never know.
I’m still dumbfounded as to how this race is even close.
Does this one include “47%” and all the bashing yesterday?
I hear ya. Just the fact that it is within a couple of points either way has me depressed. How freaking bad do things have to get before Obama’s support collapses? His supporters remind me of the Manson clan, or the Branch Davidians. Pretty stunning...
When leaners are included, the race is tied with both Obama and Romney at 48%.
If it ever gets that bad, the "media" will spin well into overdrive and make the sheep believe it's still Bush's fault. Up to now, they've proven it's not all that difficult.
At this point, I’m not convinced that his followers will turn against him even if they think it IS his fault. If he screws up his support will come in the form of ‘feeling sorry’ for him.
Is the momentum shifting?
Im still dumbfounded as to how this race is even close.
This poll is pretty much worthless as we don’t elect the President by a national vote but rather state by state via the Electoral College. There are several swing states that will decide the winner. Ras uses up to eleven and other pollsters use less down to seven or eight.
When something bad for Obama happens, the MSM will gin up another Romney “controversy”... a Contra-versy if you will.
Squirrel!!
Last night, Jay Leno's opening monologue was about Romney's gaffes: "how does he have room for both that silver spoon and his foot in his mouth at the same time?", etc.
I look for Obamugabe to retake the lead for the rest of this week and into next week at least.
As scary as it is, there are people who do want this country to collaps and be rebuilt a different way
The maximum popular vote percentage for a GOP candidate in the last 20 years is 50.73% (GWB, 2004). Like Mitt said, the way the country is now, it’s difficult for a GOP candidate to get a substantial margin.
I believe two days of MSM wailing, 17th and 18th, he may bump down a point or two in next couple of days but it will end up evening out by friday or next weeek. It’s all about turnout baby.
The sampling among Likelies (representing that O 47 - R 46 difference) was D 31, R 30. The D+9 sampling was for all adults, which showed 0+15 at 52% - 37%.
Interesting you say that because some polls a couple months back indicated that very sentiment. Many aren't angry AT Obama... they're angry FOR him.
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I've made 1600 phone calls from home to New Hampshire in the last six days using the system set up by the campaign. Even 100 calls will make a difference. Who will join me?
I guess Romney got at least 1% of Obama’s 47%.
Given that we are likely to be stuck with those vapid warriors for the right, Boner and McConnell, I hope you don’t get your expectations for not screwing up too high. Just saying.
Exactly. The sheep won't think critically about this issue and attempt to understand the meaning of the 47% issue at all. They'll just read a headline or hear a soundbite from Chris Matthews and form their very uneducated opinion from that.
thanks
The MSM has made it their mission to negate any momentum they perceive for Romney. And they likely have an entire floor of one building dedicated to the task. With this situation, no matter what kind of “good week” or favorable event (debates, crisis in the Middle East etc.) Romney has, the MSM can simply counter with a “leaked videotape” or a diversion of attention to a non-issue. When the MSM lacks such a mechanism on any given day they roll out a poll that indicates that “Romney isn’t able to get any traction” on this issue or in that state, or some other made up topic taken from a giant list of topics. This is all scripted, and don’t be surprised if Romney is unable to ever generate a large lead in the race. The only poll that matters is the one on Nov 6.
Just curious - how many actual people do you get? What is the overall reaction?
True! But it's a good tool to Tweet to discourage the RATS. :)
On 9/19/08 it was McCain 48, Obama 48.
By 9/27/08 it was McCain 44, Obama 50.
McCain never caught up after that. That’s when Lehman went down also. It seems to me this is a crucial couple of weeks though. Also McCain was often 5 points down in the spring and summer and that has not happened this year sans the one exception after the democratic convention.
The race keeps getting pulled back to stasis regardless of what happens. That in itself is a sad indictment of Obama’s base support when gas is 4.00 and Unemployment is over 8% and everything else exploding in the world.
Why don't the polling and media groups oversample republicans based on 2010 turnout?
I agree. One little thing, however. In the last election I registered as a rat so I could vote against Hillary (at this point I'm not happy I did that) and I still show as a rat for registration but of course voted for McCain and now Romney. So I can't be the only one showing one registration but voting the opposite.
Like Kim Jong-Il, a real man of the people. lol
The Obama voters won't be called back. I weed out the numbers out of service so they won't be called later in the campaign when time is even more important.
Most important, I find many Romney voters and encourage them to volunteer locally in the campaign. I suggest they make phone calls from home like me if they can. If they are elderly, I ask if they need an absentee ballot or need a ride to the polls.
The purpose of these phone calls at this point is to find the undecided voters so the campaign can work on them and identify Romney voters for the Get-Out-The-Vote effort near Election Day.
What guides me is a saying from Pirkei Avot (Ethics of the Fathers):
"It is not your job to complete the task, but neither can you desist from it."
Polls are designed to ‘mask’ the inevitable fraud.
He could get caught in bed with a white 9 year old boy and the majority of that "47%" Romney talks about would still support him.
B-bb-b-b, it's SPONTANEOUS!! It just happened, not planned or anything, nope.
Exactly. hussein is a Kardashian. Completely inept, an embarrassment and a failure. Might as well package him as Paris/Kim/Snookie/etc
Up 1 with 2 days of weekend still in the numbers.. Thursday is first non weekend day
Kind of like Sam Adams (mayor of Portland). The POS was outed for backdooring an alleged underage male and it ended up have ZERO influence on his ability to get elected as mayor of PDX. If Jerry Sandusky had only been the defensive coordinator at Portland St. he’d have likely avoid prosecution, especially if he’d make it clear that he was a hardcore democrat.
Obama 99%
Romney 1%
Courtesy of Axelrod-Plouffe Polling Services
Oh I don’t believe zer0 would still win, just that the majority of his base would still support him.
The fitting comes and the dressmaker and prospective bride's maids (the press) are busy stuffing her fat carcass into the "princess" gown. [Meanwhile, The dressmaker makes a mental note to buy some stainless steel wire to reinforce the seams.]
Come the day, the bride is ambling aimlessly down the aisle, bursting at the seams....all the attendees are gasping at the groans of the thread screeching in agony. The crux is, "Will it burst?" Will they be able to keep the deception going until after the "I do's" are irrevocably spoken?
In Portland he would.
Because its not conveeeeeeeeenient to them or their goal of scaring potential Romney voters into staying home.
Note that the perception that Obama narrowly leads could easily be used by the Dems to allege vote fraud by the Republicans (talk about the pot calling the kettle black - oh, I'm sorry, is that RAAAAAAACIST?). We need to be very careful about this - because if it is close we'll have an instant replay of the 2000 nightmare, this time accompanied by nationwide riots.
LOL!! You may be right.
right. Watch and see. Next time Romney zings Obama, or Obama’s mouth causes riots something else will get the press attention.
not planned my foot.
(I know you were being sarcastic)
There’s an elevator in my building that works very slowly. So, there’s a TV that’s always turned onto some MSM cable news channel. I get to catch about 5 minutes of MSM news everyday.
I don’t remember a week starting with, oh, the Olympics that Romney didn’t make a gaffe that would spell the end of his campaign. And this is watching only about 20 minutes of MSM news a week. I can only imagine how constant the bombarding must be. The 47% might change a percent or two for a few days, but at this point, I don’t think there’s much that either Obama or Romney can say to change the state of the race.
On one hand, yeah, it sucks that Obama has a chance to get elected after his disastrous presidency and Romney should be leading by 15. On the other hand, if the public perception of Romney is a pile of poo, then it’s awesome that a pile of poo is running even with Obama.
IMO, only a Lehman moment (good for Romney), an Israeli strike (good for Obama), or a debate moment (who knows) will change the state of the race significantly. It’s going to be a brutal Election night.
AMEN!! but when you think about it...you know why its close.... liberal media and the ever-growing gov't dependent class
Thanks for the info!
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