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Lawyer for Trayvon’s Parents Complains About Zimmerman Facebook Request
bet.com ^ | 17 September, 2012 | Jonathan P. Hicks

Posted on 09/19/2012 6:54:03 AM PDT by marktwain

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To: V_TWIN
>>This is kinda like a urinalysis, if you don't have anything to hide, why not be forthcoming with the info?<<

Yea, kinda like, “a neighbor reported something illegal is going on in your home, can we come in and take a look around?”

or

” Sir, do you realize how fast you were going? Can I take a look in your vehicle?”

or

how bout running late for your flight, “ excuse me sir, spread your legs, we need to pat your boy’z down, then walk through the naked scanner for us please!”

or

“What are you doing on this road this time of night? Where are you going, where are your papers? Going to pat you down for your and our safety...against the car!”

21 posted on 09/19/2012 8:34:59 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: servantboy777
Believe it or not Ive had very similar experiences to the ones you have listed and really didn't have a problem with it because I wasn't doing anything wrong.
22 posted on 09/19/2012 8:44:09 AM PDT by V_TWIN (obama=where there's smoke, there's mirrors)
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To: V_TWIN

And how long have you worked for the DEA?


23 posted on 09/19/2012 8:51:54 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Monarchy is the one system of government where power is exercised for the good of all - Aristotle)
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To: Oztrich Boy

I don’t work for the DEA.......DOD actually.


24 posted on 09/19/2012 8:54:29 AM PDT by V_TWIN (obama=where there's smoke, there's mirrors)
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To: servantboy777
You are comparing apples and oranges.

The rights of a man fighting a charge of homicide to a fair trial and facing the possibility of years in prison trump the (obviously very low) expectation of privacy of a FaceBook user - and especially of a dead FaceBook user.

In none of your examples was there any urgent motivation on the part of the law enforcement officials approaching the need of the Defendant in the case at hand.

Regards,

25 posted on 09/19/2012 9:00:00 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: liberalh8ter

“But when civil rights leaders said they wanted equality, they really meant preferential treatment.”

I think it goes one step further than you suggest. Civil rights leaders want revenge on all white people!


26 posted on 09/19/2012 10:10:52 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: V_TWIN
You should have a problem with unreasonable search and seizure especially if you are doing nothing wrong. Do you support the constitution or don't you?
27 posted on 09/19/2012 10:44:53 AM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: alexander_busek

>>You are comparing apples and oranges.<<

You’re right. It’s just that statement, “If you don’t have anything to hide...” that’s always put a bur under my saddle.


28 posted on 09/19/2012 11:08:31 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: V_TWIN

>>Believe it or not Ive had very similar experiences to the ones you have listed and really didn’t have a problem with it because I wasn’t doing anything wrong<<

Oh, please share!

I for one would never ever...ever give up my right to privacy and constitutional protection on the grounds of....well, I’ve got nothing to hide.

This inevitably leads to abuses by bad elements within good agencies. Hint hint, TSA.

Abusing the rights of the majority because of the action(s) of a very tiny minority.


29 posted on 09/19/2012 11:13:20 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: ohioman

Yes. I’d agree. They want revenge for ‘injustices’, real and most importantly, imagined.


30 posted on 09/19/2012 11:24:28 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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To: servantboy777

This inevitably leads to abuses by bad elements within good agencies.

maybe, but it’s never happened to me.


31 posted on 09/19/2012 11:36:18 AM PDT by V_TWIN (obama=where there's smoke, there's mirrors)
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To: V_TWIN
More and more folks are ceding their rights these days. You sound like one of them...all due respect.

Now we have biometric databases at the local level, facial recognition, drones flying over our skies, TSA groping us, DHS militarizing our local law enforcement agencies, EPA regulation controlling what you drive or eat, xray vans roaming the highways, patriot act allowing warrantless wiretaps/probing through your financial affairs, NDAA stating warrantless/indefinite detentions of American citizens, the watering down of Posse Comitatus in recent years, checks and balances that safeguard the division of federal powers being ignored, feds mandating your healthcare, highway blockades checking for everything from insurance to registration to questioning your citizenship....even American citizens.

These were once topics of conspiracy...not any more!!!

Fight for your freedoms and privacy or one day you'll wake up without them completely.

32 posted on 09/19/2012 11:59:04 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: servantboy777

I thought this thread was about George Zimmerman’s attorneys requesting trayvon’s school records and Facebook information.


33 posted on 09/20/2012 6:03:26 AM PDT by V_TWIN (obama=where there's smoke, there's mirrors)
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To: V_TWIN

Sorry...your right. Steppin off my soap box.


34 posted on 09/20/2012 7:23:06 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: servantboy777

No problem, I appreciate your passion for the Constitution.

May I ask if you agree or disagree that GZ’s defense attorneys should be allowed to obtain the school records and Facebook info?


35 posted on 09/20/2012 8:33:12 AM PDT by V_TWIN (obama=where there's smoke, there's mirrors)
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To: V_TWIN
Yes, they should be allowed if (evidence) is found that would support intent.

Example: FB postings that reveal gang affiliation, boasting of past instances of assaults and or criminal behavior. School disciplinary records that may indicate TM has a history of violence should be a part of GZ’s defense.

The guy (TM) was a thug in my opinion. I guess my position is to take care not to run rough shot over constitutional rights.

36 posted on 09/21/2012 6:20:19 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: V_TWIN
Yes, they should be allowed if (evidence) is found that would support intent.

Example: FB postings that reveal gang affiliation, boasting of past instances of assaults and or criminal behavior. School disciplinary records that may indicate TM has a history of violence should be a part of GZ’s defense.

The guy (TM) was a thug in my opinion. I guess my position is to take care not to run roughshot over constitutional rights.

37 posted on 09/21/2012 6:38:51 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: servantboy777

Ded-gum slow server. Sorry for the double tap...lol


38 posted on 09/21/2012 6:40:31 AM PDT by servantboy777
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