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If Obama loses, has failure to marginalize Fox, Newscorp and Drudge will have caused it

Posted on 09/19/2012 7:46:55 AM PDT by wzevonfan

I am not shocked that the press is and always has been left leaning. I am shocked that they have thrown objectivity to the wind and are doing everything in their power to protect Obama.

Atleast during the '04 election, they covered the Swift Boat Veterans, etc... It seems like they "learned their lesson" and are just ignoring anything they think will hurt Obama.

I knew the attacks on Fox at the time were dangerous, but only now do we see how dangerous. If he was successful, Obama would have been able to control the message as he pushed for the fairness doctrine.

Without Fox, Drudge and talk radio, I get the feeling we would be watching a narrative where the economy would be in full on recovery, unemployment is dropping and Obama will have created more jobs than all other presidents combined.

If you think about it for a moment, we witnessed and attempt to destroy free press in America, and the left cheered for it. All I can say is Gob Bless Rupert Murdoch, Matt Drudge and Rush Limbaugh. They are the only thing standing between us and Pravda. It scares me to think that Obama may "learn his lesson" and not give up when he attacks Fox in his next term.


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KEYWORDS: drudge; fairnessdoctrine; fox; murdoch; vanity

1 posted on 09/19/2012 7:47:05 AM PDT by wzevonfan
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To: wzevonfan
Gob Bless Rupert Murdoch, Matt Drudge and Rush Limbaugh.

Hear! Hear!

From your keyboard to Gob's eyes!

2 posted on 09/19/2012 7:51:47 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1339 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama, a queer and present danger)
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To: wzevonfan

Gob would unhappy that you posted this in News.


3 posted on 09/19/2012 7:54:08 AM PDT by Larry Lucido (Romney/Ryan 2012)
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To: wzevonfan

It’s not over until the fat first lady sings.


4 posted on 09/19/2012 7:54:50 AM PDT by AU72
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To: wzevonfan

His “next term”? Why do you assume this dirtbag gets reelected? hmmmm?


6 posted on 09/19/2012 7:57:15 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: AU72

“It’s not over until the fat first lady sings.”

...the blues! :)


7 posted on 09/19/2012 7:57:38 AM PDT by Batman11 (We came for the chicken sandwiches and a Sweet Tea Party broke out!)
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To: wzevonfan

Increasingly, it seems that each national election is also a referendum on the inadequacy (being VERY kind here) of the MSM.


8 posted on 09/19/2012 7:58:08 AM PDT by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: wzevonfan
Imho, FR should've been in included in that headline.

This place has at least much clout as Drudge.

9 posted on 09/19/2012 8:02:28 AM PDT by tomkat (parliament of whores, mulatto pimp, cabal of commissars . . . what could go wrong ?)
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To: wzevonfan

10 posted on 09/19/2012 8:02:47 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: wzevonfan
ps:

Gob ?

next term ?

Is it Miller Time already ?


11 posted on 09/19/2012 8:04:46 AM PDT by tomkat (parliament of whores, mulatto pimp, cabal of commissars . . . what could go wrong ?)
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To: wzevonfan

You are not witnessing the destruction of the free press you are seeing the suicide. So far the free press and free market forces are alive and well hence Fox, Drudge and talk radio. They identified a market and have profited from it. Though the liberal forces are trying everything in their power to destroy them like all their plans intentions do not equal results.


12 posted on 09/19/2012 8:04:56 AM PDT by shoff (Vote Democratic it beats thinking!)
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To: null and void

We need to draw national attention, protests outside NBC,ABC, and or CBS. Throw in the NYT & Philly Inquirer as well.

If there are mobs outside their offices, someone will have to cover it and the masses can hear that they’re being shut out. Don’t we have any non-working pot-smoking types like OWS to do this? /sarc


13 posted on 09/19/2012 8:05:12 AM PDT by Kenny
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To: wzevonfan

I agree with the premise, but I think others will also be blamed. 0Bama hinted at that during the DNC - it will be the fault of his supporters (of course, he is never responsible for anything, unless it goes well).


14 posted on 09/19/2012 8:07:55 AM PDT by jda ("Righteousness exalts a nation . . .")
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To: Kenny

I have always said this. For years I told the idiot Cubans in NY to go protest at the NY Times and not in front of the Cuban Mission to the UN, which doesnt give a rat’s ass.
We should treat the news media as if they are embassies of the left, and storm them.


15 posted on 09/19/2012 8:15:30 AM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: wzevonfan

Gotta have someone to blame.


16 posted on 09/19/2012 8:20:29 AM PDT by US_MilitaryRules (Unnngh! To many PDS people!)
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To: tomkat
This place has at least much clout as Drudge.

VISITS TO DRUDGE 9/18/12

035,947,692 IN PAST 24 HOURS

983,604,180 IN PAST 31 DAYS

10,374,881,849 IN PAST YEAR

Where do you buy your drugs?

17 posted on 09/19/2012 8:23:10 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages, start today.)
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To: tomkat

The “biggies” in talk radio have folks that peruse this site regularly for input and ideas.

I have personally heard a certain fox news / talk radio personality read a just posted post word for word - as I was reading it.


18 posted on 09/19/2012 8:23:34 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working fors)
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To: wzevonfan
George Soros bought up various news outlets so he could control the propaganda....eviscerating President Bush for instance. His propaganda about Mitt Romney and the polls is falling apart....Polls don't rise and fall like the stock market....thousands change their preference daily? The polls are skewed in favor of Obama, the Socialist/Marxist who might not even be illegible to be POTUS....Romney is far and away better equipped to lead the United States in all areas than the community organizer = Communist in the White House now.

Obama believes in taking what you earned and giving it to those who didn't earn anything. Mitt Romney believes in helping those who need it, to put them on their feet, not making them free loaders for life.

19 posted on 09/19/2012 8:28:55 AM PDT by yoe
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To: wzevonfan
.....we witnessed and attempt to destroy free press in America....

There has not been an ideologically free press in this country for nigh on half a century. It has been infested with graduates of journalism schools whose rabid liberal professors have been polluting their students for decades.

Couple this with the media's penchant for living, existing and working in liberal infested enclaves like NYC, DC, et al and you have a totally inbred cadre of dissemblers, saboteurs and liars - all dedicated into promulgating the liberal lie and their existence in their pristine elitist environment.

Virtually none of them have lived in or know of real America. They laugh about 'flyover country', rednecks, Bible belters, Christians and patriots, calling them derogatory names like "Tea Baggers" etc.

Personally, I think the old phrase "first, let's kill all the lawyers...." needs to be updated.

20 posted on 09/19/2012 8:32:53 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: wzevonfan
If Obama is allowed to complete the destruction of the free market in this country access to anything but the party line in the MSM will go with it.

It'll be like the seventies again only much worse.

21 posted on 09/19/2012 8:45:01 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: wzevonfan

20 years ago media choice was comparitively poor. Now its rich and stands to get considerably richer. To survive any media outfit MUST choose one flavor from many and then rigorously tend to the audience that wants that flavor — you serve vanilla just a couple times to the Nascar dad who wants Rocky Road, well he’ll buy his beer from the guy who carries THAT company’s commercials and who DOES serve the Rocky Road he loves.

You know what tuition is? Thats where some of your money goes away, but you get just a little smarter. So now that CNN’s peak audience has gone in five years from 5 million to under 400 thousand.

If the vanilla-serving dummy wants to keep doing that, then its ok and his gradual death will lay bare just HOW badly he believes in his suicidal cause.


22 posted on 09/19/2012 8:49:52 AM PDT by gaijin
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To: wzevonfan

You forgot to blame Bush too.


23 posted on 09/19/2012 8:50:18 AM PDT by Harley (Those that don't engage in politics are destined to be governed by inferiors. -Plato)
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To: USS Alaska; tomkat
Good morning.

Where do you buy your drugs?

I get my drugs at the VA. ;^)

Methinks tomcat didn't mean page views (FR gets about a 1/10th of Drudge per day), but our activism.

Some examples would be assisting in the impeachment of Billy Jeff, saving a presidential election, and getting Dan "what's the frequency Kenneth," Rather fired.

Then again, I could be wrong, and tomkat was talking about page views...

5.56mm

24 posted on 09/19/2012 8:53:48 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: wzevonfan

I fear that a second Obama term will see a shutdown of conservative talk radio with some new “fairness doctrine”, the closing of conservative Internet blogs for some trumped up “security” issue and an intensified war to shut down Fox News. The liberal media is perfectly willing to become Obama’s ministry of propaganda. Obama in a second term will follow the example of Caesar Chavez and make himself a virtual dictator by first shutting down all opposition in the media.


25 posted on 09/19/2012 8:55:34 AM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: wzevonfan

“It seems like they “learned their lesson” and are just ignoring anything they think will hurt Obama.”

Because if they don’t support the chosen one 100% then everyone else will call them racist. Of course, they are but...


26 posted on 09/19/2012 9:09:47 AM PDT by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (I wanna start a Seniors' Motor Scooter Gang. Wanna join?)
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To: USS Alaska
VISITS TO DRUDGE 9/18/12

035,947,692 IN PAST 24 HOURS

A certain portion of those page views are due to Drudge's insidious auto refresh feature, which is used to misrepresent his site traffic to potential advertisers. The auto refresh used to be once every 5 minutes, it now appears to be down to once every 3 minutes.

27 posted on 09/19/2012 9:10:51 AM PDT by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their president is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: Fresh Wind

auto refresh..so thats what it is.I thought I had a problem and was unknowingly or accidentally resending the page request.
Its annoying
thanks


28 posted on 09/19/2012 9:19:37 AM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: wzevonfan

wzevonfan~ “ Without Fox, Drudge and talk radio, I get the feeling we would be watching a narrative where the economy would be in full on recovery, unemployment is dropping and Obama will have created more jobs than all other presidents combined.
If you think about it for a moment, we witnessed and attempt to destroy free press in America, and the left cheered for it. All I can say is Gob Bless Rupert Murdoch, Matt Drudge and Rush Limbaugh. They are the only thing standing between us and Pravda.”

The conservative voice has already been marginalized to limited areas such as radio and DRUDGE .
What other voices do we have ?

Jounalism schools , lame stream media , and the nightly “talking heads” are all liberal in the highly edited , produced , and directed presentation of daily news programming. Objective observation of these media indicate falling viewship and readership. They get all their ‘talking points directly from the WH or ‘media matters’ ( a surrogate clone).
All the national news that we get come in ‘pre-packaged’ sound bites of 30 - 60 seconds , geared to a fifth grader.

Where are the Conservative journalists , other than radio and singular news websites ?
Where are the Conservative “talking heads” ?
Where are the Conservative moderators for the televised debates ?

The Conservative voice has already been marginalized ~ although not non-existant.
Haven’t we already demonstrated our support for an available Conservative voice and media ? I beleive the market is there .
The Conservative voice and viewpoint will not be heard until there are more Conservative outlets. We must remain uncompromising resolved to bringing something more than pablum to national news.


29 posted on 09/19/2012 9:24:35 AM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (Disclaimer - the opinions above merely reflect the writers restricted ability to observe reality)
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To: wzevonfan

The “mainstream” press is not left-leaning, they are the Left.

They are not “biased” toward the DNC, they are the DNC.

When you realize that, you won’t be shocked that they “throw objectivity to the wind”. You will be shocked that after decades the GOP still finds itself dependent upon its enemy’s press organs to get its message out, and then complains when it gets squelched, muffled, and distorted again and again.

They are not the press as we imagine. They are DNC.


30 posted on 09/19/2012 9:34:23 AM PDT by marron
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To: M Kehoe; USS Alaska
MK is correct .. I said clout, not volume.
31 posted on 09/19/2012 9:46:59 AM PDT by tomkat (parliament of whores, mulatto pimp, cabal of commissars . . . what could go wrong ?)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt
Sorry about the terrible typing....I should have checked it over. I have not posted many times and feel foolish for bungling something as simple as that.

Ultimately, the frightful part is we are at a point where only a few Conservative voices are left. Obama and Co have launched an assault and that if he wins (not that he will win but if he was to win), I think he will try and finish the job.

32 posted on 09/19/2012 11:38:12 AM PDT by wzevonfan (Thanks)
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To: tomkat; M Kehoe
MK is correct .. I said clout, not volume.

I've been a FReeper for several years, but to pretend that FR has even 10% of the effect {or clout} that Drudge has is delusional.

There is no doubt that FR has thousands of visitors each day and each of us is always 100% convinced that we are correct and dedicated to whatever our position happens to be.

We have very little impact on America as a whole, only on political junkies.

We can't even convince each other whether FR or Drudge has more "clout", and we do this every day.

Case closed.

33 posted on 09/19/2012 12:45:14 PM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages, start today.)
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To: USS Alaska
.. each of us is always 100% convinced that we are correct ..

That statement is categorically untrue.

I've already been wrong a couple times this year, and it's only mid-September !

And additionally, though I don't intend arguing about it, news items often appear here hours (if not day/s) before Drudge puts 'em up.

And if the actual truth could ever be known, I suspect this place has been his unattributed source many more than a few times.

/.02

34 posted on 09/19/2012 2:06:17 PM PDT by tomkat (parliament of whores, mulatto pimp, cabal of commissars . . . what could go wrong ?)
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To: kabumpo

Yes, we should protest outside msm’s doors, call their sponsors and threaten to stop watching, reading, whatever. You know, all the liberal stuff like what they did to Rush.

When conservatives make up their minds to fight back they do a bang-up job like the millions who went to Obamacare demonstrations. We just need to get together on this stuff and we can wipe them out.


35 posted on 09/19/2012 6:12:51 PM PDT by Kenny
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