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EPA Institutes Minimum Gas Purchase Requirement For Some Stations
National Review Online ^ | 9/19/12 | Betsy Woodruff

Posted on 09/19/2012 11:16:46 AM PDT by Nachum

Representative Jim Sensenbrenner (R., Wis.) has a post on the Hill’s Congress Blog highlighting a bizarre new regulation from the EPA requiring some gas stations to sell at least four gallons of gasoline at a time. It affects those that pump both E10 and E15 (gas with 10 percent or 15 percent ethanol) through the same hose. Since E15 is pretty terrible for small engines and old cars (Sensenbrenner says it’s “like metal in a microwave for a small engine”), the theory is that when customers whose engines cannot handle it are buying gas,

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KEYWORDS: 2012; democrats; envirofascism; epa; gas; institute; minimum; obama; sminimum; tyranny
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1 posted on 09/19/2012 11:16:56 AM PDT by Nachum
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2 posted on 09/19/2012 11:17:40 AM PDT by Nachum (The List was hacked- www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

Jimmy Carter and 1973 all over again. Next odd even license plates.


3 posted on 09/19/2012 11:18:25 AM PDT by duckman (I'm part of the group pulling the wagon!)
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To: Nachum
How about clear labeling about what type of "gasoline" is being sold so I can make the choice if I want ethanol in it?

How much gasoline is actually between the switch choosing what I'm getting and the nozzle? It seems like 4 gallons is an awful lot for the difference between E10 and E15 unless a gallon is between the switch and the nozzle.

4 posted on 09/19/2012 11:25:41 AM PDT by KarlInOhio ("Government is the only thing that we all belong to"=implicit repeal of the 13th amendment for all.)
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To: duckman

Just go to ethanol free stations(pure) like I do..


5 posted on 09/19/2012 11:26:08 AM PDT by goseminoles
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To: Nachum

Fyi...

http://pure-gas.org/


6 posted on 09/19/2012 11:29:32 AM PDT by goseminoles
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To: Nachum

The age old question - “Or what?” This will be a true wonder to enforce.


7 posted on 09/19/2012 11:30:16 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: Nachum

so if a customer who’s engine can’t handle the gas is forced to buy a minimum amount, it’ll make sure to fry his engine.


8 posted on 09/19/2012 11:30:16 AM PDT by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: goseminoles
http://pure-gas.org/extensions/map.html

Useful link to find pure gas. It's all I use.

9 posted on 09/19/2012 11:30:30 AM PDT by yobid (Oh no there goes Ohio no no Fedzilla......woooo oooo oooo oooo)
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To: Nachum

The EPA...is there anything they don’t know and want to control?


10 posted on 09/19/2012 11:38:46 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: Nachum
So if I tank up a Sportster do I run the extra on the ground?
11 posted on 09/19/2012 11:41:29 AM PDT by CrazyIvan (Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
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To: TurboZamboni

Damn it! Well, then you find 'em, and you get 'em back in the dome! And to make sure nobody else gets out, I want roving death squads around the perimeter 24-7! I want 10,000 tough guys, and I want 10,000 soft guys to make the tough guys look tougher! And here's how I want them arranged: tough, soft, tough, tough, soft, tough, soft, soft, tough, tough, soft, soft, tough, soft, tough, soft!

Sir, I'm afraid you've gone mad with power.

Of course I have! Have you ever tried going mad without power? It's boring, no one listens to you!


12 posted on 09/19/2012 11:41:39 AM PDT by dfwgator (I'm voting for Ryan and that other guy.)
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To: KarlInOhio
Summer 2011 while driving through Iowa I put in a higher blend of ethanol (not sure if it was E-20 or more) because the midgrade price was 10 cents a gallon cheaper than the regular price (E-10) and the label wasn't clearly seen. At a station is South Dakota I noticed they had it clearly marked. I think the chocies were: E10, E30, E50 all the way up to E85. I figured it out when my gas mileage to there dropped a lot (all the way down to 32 mpg when I was getting as high as 41 mpg).

I only made that mistake once, but it didn't ruin the car nor the engine. I was driving a 2008 Honda Civic.

13 posted on 09/19/2012 11:48:08 AM PDT by I Drive Too Fast
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To: Nachum

This is a small example of why the US has crashed to 18th place on the Cato Index of economic freedom.


14 posted on 09/19/2012 11:49:13 AM PDT by DManA
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To: DManA

so if you buy ONE gallon you stil have to pay for FOUR?

Talk about a TAX PENALTY!

who keeps the extra money?


15 posted on 09/19/2012 11:54:46 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Nachum

What about motorcycles, EPA?

When we fill up our Harleys we go to stations with separate hoses for each type of gas, not stations with one hose.

Problem solved.


16 posted on 09/19/2012 11:59:52 AM PDT by SandyInSeattle (Eat Mor Chikin!)
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To: longtermmemmory
who keeps the extra money?

Do you really think the EPA cares? Nope, just so long as it's held that they can actually do this.
It really is time to start teaching bureaucrats the rope-dance.

17 posted on 09/19/2012 12:09:58 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: SandyInSeattle

so the epa will mandate seperate hoses because the regulation will create more jobs. Then you have to have hose inspectors. Then there will be tax collections on the parts... I think a democrat just had an tax orgasm.


18 posted on 09/19/2012 12:22:24 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: yobid

None in my neck of the woods


19 posted on 09/19/2012 12:27:52 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Nachum

Destroying engines stimulates the economy. Just like taking lead out of gas did.


20 posted on 09/19/2012 12:31:24 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: longtermmemmory

Shh! Don’t give them any ideas.


21 posted on 09/19/2012 12:48:47 PM PDT by SandyInSeattle (Eat Mor Chikin!)
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To: yobid

Very helpful... unless you live in an area where none is available. Hard to justify a round trip of 120 miles or more to fill up.


22 posted on 09/19/2012 12:51:20 PM PDT by ken in texas (I was taught to respect my elders but it keeps getting harder to find any.)
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To: goseminoles

Unfortunately we live in the Houston suburbs and it is many miles to the nearest one. Times like this I wish we lived in Alaska where all gasoline is ethanol free. Just ridiculous. Unintended consequence for not participating in Cash for Clunkers?


23 posted on 09/19/2012 1:38:15 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: Grams A

Many Valero gas stations have ethanol free gas. Also Lukoil.


24 posted on 09/19/2012 2:10:20 PM PDT by Roklok
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To: Grams A

Where I am in Washington State I’ve never detected more than a trace in local gasoline (less than 0.5%, which is nothing). I think the distributors decided they weren’t going to play that game.


25 posted on 09/19/2012 2:18:31 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture TM)
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To: CrazyIvan

“So if I tank up a Sportster do I run the extra on the ground?”

That is exactly what needs to happen. They would just go apoplectic and maybe get an object lesson as a result of their stupidity.

Actually I have a better idea. Strip the immunity and make these people personally criminally and civilly liable for their actions.

My guess after a few of these little Stalins ended up living in a homeless shelter for the rest of their lives, the others might stop and think before they acted.


26 posted on 09/19/2012 2:23:39 PM PDT by Clay Moore (The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of a fool to the left. Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: Clay Moore

You would probably just get the local gas station owner fined


27 posted on 09/19/2012 2:24:20 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: steve86

How are you measuring it?


28 posted on 09/19/2012 2:26:35 PM PDT by Clay Moore (The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of a fool to the left. Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: Roklok

We don’t have Lukoil in our part of the woods and all of our Valero stations have ethanol in their gas. I would suspect it is because we are in a metropolitan area and God forbid that we should pollute. Looked on the Internet and there are lots of ethanol free stations in places like Corpus and West Texas though. Little far to go to fill up.

It was wonderful when we were in Mississippi earlier this year where they still have normal gas stations and pumps. Gas was a lot less expensive, too.

Sent article to a friend who has a weird sense of humor. He suggested everyone just run the first four gallons onto the ground and then begin filling the tank. Expensive but not as much as a new engine for his old clunker.


29 posted on 09/19/2012 2:28:32 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: Clay Moore

With an EAA test kit.

http://www.eaa.org/autofuel/autogas/test_kit.asp


30 posted on 09/19/2012 2:37:02 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture TM)
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To: steve86

Is still listed but not actually available?


31 posted on 09/19/2012 2:39:14 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture TM)
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To: steve86

http://www.fuel-testers.com/quikcheck.html


32 posted on 09/19/2012 2:44:22 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture TM)
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To: steve86

Thanks for the link.


33 posted on 09/19/2012 2:47:12 PM PDT by Clay Moore (The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of a fool to the left. Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: goseminoles

Easy enough if you live where they exist. Unfortunately, most of us do not (If the map is correct at the above-linked site.)


34 posted on 09/19/2012 4:02:07 PM PDT by publana (Beware the olive branch extended by a Dem for it disguises a clenched fist.)
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To: publana

:0(


35 posted on 09/19/2012 4:14:06 PM PDT by goseminoles
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To: SandyInSeattle

What about lawnmowers? I guess you have to burn up three gallons in your vehicle then pay for four rather than just walk to the gas station for one gallon for your mower.


36 posted on 09/19/2012 7:53:39 PM PDT by scrabblehack
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To: scrabblehack

I forgot about lawnmowers! We have a wimpy electric model that we keep hoping will break so we can replace it with a REAL lawnmower.


37 posted on 09/20/2012 7:24:20 AM PDT by SandyInSeattle (Eat Mor Chikin!)
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To: goseminoles
Just go to ethanol free stations(pure) like I do..

+1

38 posted on 09/20/2012 7:32:36 AM PDT by commish (Freedom tastes sweetest to those who have fought to preserve it.)
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To: Grams A

Not sure if you have Entex stations in your area, but they have started offering Ethanol Free 87 octane.


39 posted on 09/20/2012 7:35:24 AM PDT by commish (Freedom tastes sweetest to those who have fought to preserve it.)
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