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VANITY: Over 60% of America does not like ObamaCare, but they want to vote to preserve it????
9-20-12 | me

Posted on 09/20/2012 9:37:44 AM PDT by Anti-Hillary

So a majority of America hates ObamaCare, but we are to believe from the polls that they want to vote to seal the deal once and for all?? I am NOT buying it! Think about it... GOP candidates need to beat the drums of war against ObamaCare and remind America that ANY hope of killing it rests with the results of this election. This is the LAST chance!!


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KEYWORDS: chat; obamacare; vanity

1 posted on 09/20/2012 9:37:51 AM PDT by Anti-Hillary
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To: Anti-Hillary
I am NOT buying it!

As well you shouldn't

When you lie, tell a BIG lie. The PEW poll has Obama up by, what, 9 points? Heck, why 9, make it 50! If you're going to lie, make it a big lie. as Joe Goebbles used to say.
2 posted on 09/20/2012 9:41:17 AM PDT by Signalman
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To: Anti-Hillary

Dream on.

The GOP-controlled House voted to repeal 0bamacare (entirely symbolic; not a chance in Hell it would get through the Senate) but then voted to continue funding it.


3 posted on 09/20/2012 9:42:35 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Anti-Hillary

There are two possibilities:

1) Either Americans have become too stupid and corrupt to effectively govern themselves, meaning that in an essential way our republic is now a failed state; or

2) The polls lie.

Some days I believe one, some days the other.


4 posted on 09/20/2012 9:43:19 AM PDT by mojito
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To: Anti-Hillary

48 Million on Food Stamps and unemployed Govt. workers at 5.1% is What wants to preserve this rot.


5 posted on 09/20/2012 9:43:49 AM PDT by To-Whose-Benefit? (It is Error alone which needs the support of Government. The Truth can stand by itself.)
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To: Anti-Hillary

Neither Romney nor the majority of Republicans in Congress are going to work to repeal Obamacare.


6 posted on 09/20/2012 9:44:35 AM PDT by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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To: DuncanWaring
Not saying they will kill it. Just trying to point out that there is NO way that the average voter wants to vote to preserve ObamaCare.
7 posted on 09/20/2012 9:44:35 AM PDT by Anti-Hillary (Barry, Barry quite contrary, how does your government grow?...)
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To: Anti-Hillary
Bank on it... you can't find 60% of Americans who could explain WHAT Obamacare IS...much less approve it.

What we DO comprehend about it is abjectly negative, fraudulent and DANGEROUS!

8 posted on 09/20/2012 9:45:05 AM PDT by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: Anti-Hillary

Flush it in 2013 ASAP!


9 posted on 09/20/2012 9:45:59 AM PDT by Forty-Niner (The barely bare berry bear formerly known as Ursus Arctos Horribilis.)
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To: Anti-Hillary

I’m guessing 60%, don’t even know what it entails or what would really happen with it. Most people only know what they’ve read about it on the internet or in the media...and that depends on their source.


10 posted on 09/20/2012 9:46:53 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: Lorianne

In the next four years, you might see the GOPe fighting to retain ObamaCare as the free market alternative to a single payor national health system which is the Rats ultimate goal.


11 posted on 09/20/2012 9:48:41 AM PDT by buckalfa (Nabob of Negativity)
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To: DuncanWaring

What do you propose this congress does when nothing to repeal or not fund will make it through the Senate? As much as I don’t like it, our side takes a drubbing every time there is a congressional standoff. There is no way we can do that right before this election. All we can do is run on it to get a new senate and the whitehouse.


12 posted on 09/20/2012 9:49:57 AM PDT by ilgipper
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To: Anti-Hillary; Gilbo_3; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; DoughtyOne; Impy; stephenjohnbanker; NFHale
RE :”So a majority of America hates ObamaCare, but we are to believe from the polls that they want to vote to seal the deal once and for all??

They love the freebees but hate the taxes and mandates, at least the ones that cost themselves.

That is why when Republicans passed medicare expansion 2004 they made it a 100% freebees bill. make EVERYONE HAPPY

Good luck trying to prove broad principles when self interest is involved.

My tax cut creates jobs”

My stimulus check creates jobs”

Common principle?? =”MY”

13 posted on 09/20/2012 9:51:15 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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To: Anti-Hillary

Republicans need to reform parts of the medical care system. If an uninsured person gets a bad cold they can go to any hospital that takes federal money and get treatment. That works out to taxpayers picking up an $800 hospital bill for what should have been a $70 doctor’s visit. That needs to be reformed. An efficient but cheaper alternative can be found.


14 posted on 09/20/2012 9:54:48 AM PDT by GOPJ (You only establish a feel for the line by having crossed it. - - Freeper One Name)
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To: ilgipper

The House has sole authority to spend money.

If the GOP members of the House (they are in the majority, remember) were serious about getting rid of 0bamacare, rather than just political theater for the rubes, their spending bills would exclude funding for 0bamacare.


15 posted on 09/20/2012 9:56:54 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Anti-Hillary

its called mental illness


16 posted on 09/20/2012 10:01:35 AM PDT by dalebert
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To: Anti-Hillary; Signalman; ml/nj; ExTexasRedhead; nikos1121; Ravi; cajungirl; socialismisinsidious; ..
GOP candidates need to beat the drums of war against ObamaCare and remind America that ANY hope of killing it rests with the results of this election. This is the LAST chance!!

Can't put it anymore succinctly than that!

17 posted on 09/20/2012 10:04:39 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: Anti-Hillary

The problem is they do not want RomneyCare either. Romney first said he would issue exemptions, then he said he would repeal it. Next was he would repeal and replace. He also says he is proud of RomneyCare. A change in NAME does not make it acceptable. Everyone knew that ObamaCare would not be a winning issue when they voted for Romney.


18 posted on 09/20/2012 10:06:34 AM PDT by brightright
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To: buckalfa; All
In the next four years, you might see the GOPe fighting to retain ObamaCare as the free market alternative to a single payor national health system which is the Rats ultimate goal.

Free market alternative? When Big Brother mandates a ton of coverages in an insurance policy that the consumer doesn't feel he needs nor wants, there is NO "free market"!!!

19 posted on 09/20/2012 10:10:14 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93; Gilbo_3

Didnt the Republican House just fully fund Obama-care in that 6 month CR they just passed a few days ago?

that could make opposiing it more tricky.

but all is not lost. Those defense cuts passed last year will still go into effect in January or December when the Obama -care $$$ is being dished out.


20 posted on 09/20/2012 10:22:56 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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To: brightright; All
The problem is they do not want RomneyCare either. Romney first said he would issue exemptions, then he said he would repeal it. Next was he would repeal and replace. He also says he is proud of RomneyCare. A change in NAME does not make it acceptable. Everyone knew that ObamaCare would not be a winning issue when they voted for Romney.

If you want ObamaCare repealed, the only avenue you have is trust Romney when he said that as president he would sign any repeal bill passed by Congress which might come to his desk. After that, you've got to put the congresscritters' feet to the fire and make sure that whatever they come up with as a "replacement" is not onerous enough to destroy liberty and the economy.

Romney has made it fairly clear that he does not want to see RomneyCare instituted on a national level, or at least that's the impression I got during the GOP primary season.

21 posted on 09/20/2012 10:24:54 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: Anti-Hillary

“This is the LAST chance!!”

This is the LAST chance on many things that have made us Americans.

If Obama wins another term, the American experiment is over. Yes, I believe it’s that bad.

Obama and his filthy corrupt democrats must go.

God save the Republic....


22 posted on 09/20/2012 10:41:40 AM PDT by Gator113 (I would have voted for NEWT, now it's Ryan and the other guy.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: justiceseeker93; sickoflibs
the only avenue you have is trust Romney

enuff said...

23 posted on 09/20/2012 10:47:01 AM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: justiceseeker93

His most recent statements are that he would repeal and REPLACE ObamaCare. He said there are parts of ObamaCare that he likes and would keep. Romney has a history of saying whatever is politically best for him at the time. As far as Congress repealing it I wish that could happen but if the people who are against had any power it would not have passed.


24 posted on 09/20/2012 10:49:47 AM PDT by brightright
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To: brightright; All
As far as Congress repealing it I wish that could happen but if the people who are against had any power it would not have passed.

There is reason to hope and even think that ObamaCare will be repealed if the GOP gets the majority in both chambers of Congress.

When it did pass (against the will of the significant majority of the people), it got one single GOP vote in the House, none in the Senate. The majority 'Rats passed it anyhow in the dark of night without even letting us know what what was in it.

25 posted on 09/20/2012 11:13:06 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: Anti-Hillary

Beat the drums? The scaredy cats will be running as far away as they can from those drums.


26 posted on 09/20/2012 11:19:38 AM PDT by bgill
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To: justiceseeker93

Thank you for the hope. My hope is that ObamaCare is gone not replaced and that is what Romney said he would do. The fact that he continues to state how proud he is of RomneyCare and he says he likes parts of ObamaCare. Those tell what his plans really are.


27 posted on 09/20/2012 12:48:32 PM PDT by brightright
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To: brightright; All
The fact [is] that he continues to state how proud he is of RomneyCare and he says he likes parts of ObamaCare. Those tell what his plans really are.

His plans may lean in that direction, but he won't necessarily be able to get this stuff through a GOP House and a GOP Senate. And one thing you could almost be sure of if Romney is president: there will be no bypass of Congress through executive orders, at lest not with regard to health care legislation.

28 posted on 09/20/2012 1:45:02 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93; ExTexasRedhead; Anti-Hillary; All
And, if Obama wins it is preserved forever.


29 posted on 09/20/2012 2:44:49 PM PDT by potlatch (~~And the truth IS what counts, RIGHT ? ~~)
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To: potlatch
Aside from the events at the Benghazi consulate, there was the attack on the embassy in Cairo and numerous other anti-American and anti-Western "demonstrations" around the Muslim world.

Now why aren't we seeing Obama dropping like a lead weight in the presidential polls?

30 posted on 09/20/2012 3:13:21 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93

My own opinion is that the vast majority of people don’t follow events like we do and they watch the MSM, who never state when Obama lies or makes a mistake. You know that as well as I do, the uninformed think Obama speaks the truth.

As for Romney, he lacks the ‘ease of charm’ that Bill Clinton and others have.


31 posted on 09/20/2012 3:38:37 PM PDT by potlatch (~~And the truth IS what counts, RIGHT ? ~~)
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To: potlatch
As for Romney, he lacks the ‘ease of charm’ that Bill Clinton and others have.

I think you were being somewhat sarcastic about "ease of charm" being a factor in voting for President. How idiotic is that? Of course, that's basically a woman's thing, I'm quite sure.

You touched on a big problem women voters, I'm afraid to say: too many view an election as if they are bachelorettes on "The Dating Game," where "ease of charm" is a highly valued quality.

Clinton? Many psychopaths have an "ease of charm" which lures unsuspecting victims into tragedies.

32 posted on 09/20/2012 3:57:18 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93

Lol, then why are so many men criticizing him? Recently he has spoken the truth, right? - But, he doesn’t “connect”, and ‘connecting’ can be the same as ‘appealing’ - which was Bubba’s charm.

Since you think my comment about “ease of charm” is an idiotic ‘woman thing’ I will change that name to Reagan and perhaps you will better understand what I meant by ‘charm and connecting’ because he appealed to all of us.

If you don’t want my point of view, then don’t ping me.
I have never watched ‘The Dating Game’, so you are more familiar with it than I............


33 posted on 09/20/2012 4:15:44 PM PDT by potlatch (~~And the truth IS what counts, RIGHT ? ~~)
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To: All; justiceseeker93

Consider writing letters to editors reminding senior citizens that Obama cut Medicare by over $one-half TRILLION!

I’m seeing tv ads in my state that Republicans voted to get rid of Medicare. Say what?!

Elderly folks watch tv and read letters to editors. Let’s show them both sides.

Younger senior citizens use a computer, and listen to talk radio, so I’m not so worried about them.


34 posted on 09/20/2012 7:09:44 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: All; justiceseeker93

Consider writing letters to editors reminding senior citizens that Obama cut Medicare by over $one-half TRILLION!

I’m seeing tv ads in my state that Republicans voted to get rid of Medicare. Say what?!

Elderly folks watch tv and read letters to editors. Let’s show them both sides.

Younger senior citizens use a computer, and listen to talk radio, so I’m not so worried about them.


35 posted on 09/20/2012 7:12:50 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: sickoflibs

” Didnt the Republican House just fully fund Obama-care in that 6 month CR they just passed a few days ago?”

YES


36 posted on 09/21/2012 7:48:55 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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