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Did Tim Kaine just lose the election?
Bearing Drift ^ | Thursday, September 20th, 2012 | Norman Leahy

Posted on 09/20/2012 10:26:15 AM PDT by iceskater

The Governor who couldn’t stop himself from proposing tax hikes on Virginians says during the Fairfax debate with George Allen that he’s open to a minimum federal income tax on everyone.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: allen2012; eyebrows; kaine; va2012
Video at the link.
1 posted on 09/20/2012 10:26:24 AM PDT by iceskater
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To: iceskater

This would be a complete dealbreaker to the tune of a 70-30 blowout in any sane time. As our current insanity stands, Kaine will still get a minimum of 45% of the vote.


2 posted on 09/20/2012 10:28:25 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act - 1984)
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To: iceskater

The MSM will come to his rescue


3 posted on 09/20/2012 10:29:41 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: iceskater

As a Virginian, this is the first issue I think I have ever agreed with Kaine on. There SHOULD be a minimum federal tax.

I know the statement will hurt him... and that is good for conservatives, but he is right. Unfortunately, Allen will demogogue it and likely win by running to the left instead of winning as a conservative. The question is whether or not this is a conservative victory because the more conservative candidate won or is it a liberal victory because the candidate won by vowing to continue the handouts for the 47%?


4 posted on 09/20/2012 10:31:52 AM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: iceskater

If he does lose over this comment, its a shame. He’s right. Every single person should pay some tax to avoid the public voting itself benefits on the backs of the rich. There are a lot of reasons for Kaine to lose. This isn’t one of them.


5 posted on 09/20/2012 10:33:11 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: Personal Responsibility

With that comment, he might just get 53%


6 posted on 09/20/2012 10:33:45 AM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: wolfman23601

I hear you.

I suspect, however, knowing Gov. Eyebrow his idea of a ‘minimum tax’ for everyone will turn out to be another tax heaped on the makers and the 47% will continue to take.


7 posted on 09/20/2012 10:34:29 AM PDT by iceskater (The clock is ticking....November's coming.)
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To: iceskater

No kidding. I’ll bet Kaine wasn’t even thinking about the 47% when he made that comment, but wants to make sure that 53% are all required to pay at least 25%.


8 posted on 09/20/2012 10:39:30 AM PDT by palmer (Jim, please bill me 50 cents for this completely useless post)
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To: iceskater
He's right of course. Ironically he's making the same point as Mitt Romney, just more overtly. Will be interesting to see the response. Will Romney cite Kaine's comments in support of his argument?

I almost wish we had some system where there was a multiplier in place between the lowest and highest effective tax rates (e.g. if the highest taxpayer pays 30% the lowest must pay 3% (10x multiplier). Raise one and the other goes up, and vice versa.

9 posted on 09/20/2012 10:41:00 AM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: iceskater

This is the other side of the coin from Romney’s 47% comments. Will the press cover it the same way as Romney’s? What happens if the 47% don’t like the idea of being taxed and he loses the election, doesn’t that validate Romney?


10 posted on 09/20/2012 10:41:30 AM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: iceskater

Unless I’m wrong he’s losing it for Obama, because a minimum tax for everyone plays right into Romney’s quote.


11 posted on 09/20/2012 10:42:10 AM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: Vince Ferrer

Excellent question


12 posted on 09/20/2012 10:43:02 AM PDT by iceskater (The clock is ticking....November's coming.)
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To: Williams

I agree with you.
He’s wandered off the reservation and it will come back and bite him in the a$$.


13 posted on 09/20/2012 10:44:44 AM PDT by iceskater (The clock is ticking....November's coming.)
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To: GeronL

True dat.


14 posted on 09/20/2012 10:45:48 AM PDT by iceskater (The clock is ticking....November's coming.)
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To: iceskater

Macaca Karma. LOL!


15 posted on 09/20/2012 10:47:39 AM PDT by nhwingut (Sarah Palin 12... No One Else)
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To: wolfman23601
Unfortunately, Allen will demogogue it and likely win by running to the left instead of winning as a conservative

Cutting spending and opposing tax increases for any income bracket IS a conservative position.

Kaine stepped in it, serves him right. He is a vile, noxious liberal who would prop up Harry Reid's majority.

16 posted on 09/20/2012 10:48:53 AM PDT by mwl8787
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To: Personal Responsibility

Stupid people vote for stupid people!


17 posted on 09/20/2012 10:49:03 AM PDT by JFC
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To: Opinionated Blowhard
If he does lose over this comment, its a shame. He’s right. Every single person should pay some tax to avoid the public voting itself benefits on the backs of the rich.

It would be a shame. I totally agree with him on this. Of course, I don't believe in our Marxist "progressive" income tax system.

18 posted on 09/20/2012 10:49:03 AM PDT by Marathoner (If the bastard were to win reelection, let America burn. IDGAF anymore.)
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To: wolfman23601
this is the first issue I think I have ever agreed with Kaine on. There SHOULD be a minimum federal tax.

Yup. But the more important thing I see here is that the Dems' polling must be indicating that people do see the 47% as moochers. Too bad all the attempts of their pals in the media to turn that 47% thing into some sort of Romney gaffe is backfiring on them.

19 posted on 09/20/2012 10:49:13 AM PDT by old and tired
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To: Williams

Opens many, many lines of attack. Obama has promised to extend the Bush tax cuts for ONLY one year for all income brackets.

Romney needs to start making this argument, and now we have Kaine on the wrong side of an immediate tax increase for all income brackets.


20 posted on 09/20/2012 10:51:42 AM PDT by mwl8787
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To: iceskater
Did Tim Kaine just lose the election?

Let's hope so. And just think -- he didn't even use the "r" word???

(((( rape )))) sssshhhhhh

21 posted on 09/20/2012 10:54:19 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: wolfman23601
Unfortunately, Allen will demogogue it and likely win by running to the left instead of winning as a conservative.

When your opponent lights himself of fire, you don't offer a bucket of water. You pour gasoline on him. The conservative position is less taxes. The 47% who pay no income taxes is a Sean Hannity talking point. The working poor, and middle class, pay plenty of taxes - state, city, sales, property, meals, etc.
22 posted on 09/20/2012 10:54:36 AM PDT by nhwingut (Sarah Palin 12... No One Else)
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To: nhwingut

We are talking federal taxes, not state, city, sales etc. This is a senate race. And what exactly is the working poor or middle class? Every single person I have ever talked to says they are in the middle class, from the my doctor with a waterfront house to the woman in front of me at Food Lion with the EBT card. There are multiple levels of government in this country and everyone should have skin in every game or that 47%, which is growing, will keep voting for the socialists.


23 posted on 09/20/2012 11:02:13 AM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: nhwingut

Heh heh heh!!!


24 posted on 09/20/2012 11:03:14 AM PDT by iceskater (The clock is ticking....November's coming.)
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To: GeronL

“The MSM will come to his rescue”

They will call him courageous and cutting edge. They will lie about his poll numbers. They will carry his water.


25 posted on 09/20/2012 11:42:34 AM PDT by oust the louse (Obamacare has morphed into a tax on staying alive.)
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To: oust the louse

I’m sure that Kaine or the media’s clarification will state that the minimum only applies to the 53% who actually pay taxes. The minimum means that they can’t use tax loopholes to hide their money.


26 posted on 09/20/2012 12:17:54 PM PDT by kaboom
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To: wolfman23601

Obama won by 53%.

What 47% of America is getting “handouts”?


27 posted on 09/20/2012 2:00:10 PM PDT by ansel12
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